🤮 Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

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DX10 said:
Yeah I mentioned it a few pages back. Check my posts, I don't post often, you can read the greater detail I wrote about it if you wanna learn more about alternatives. I also forgot to mention like, segu-fix style stuff that's used in some hospitals, though I have no experience with it so IDK how easy it is to fuck yourself up in.
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Hey, thanks man. I wasn't sure, but your posts were interesting.

Since we still have a few people slowly coming in, I'll quote those for people who want a way more detailed description of restraints :)

DX10 said:
If you're talking about posey vests then it's because posey vests carry much less risk of the person restrained with them fucking themselves up. Wearing a straitjacket, your body is in a tension position that you can easily fuck your joints up with if you want to, whereas in a posey vest you're usually bound supine or sitting.

Straitjackets are actually useless for preventing self-harm, they're only really (and only moderately) useful for preventing people from harming others, and do nothing from stopping the weecunt bashing their head against something, or kicking the shit out of you, without additional physical restraints. Posey vest stuff/belt restraints are now commonly used in wheelchairs/beds specifically because it's impossible for the dozy fucker you're buckling down to fight back or kick the shit out of someone else.

Funnily enough straitjackets are still used in a lot of American prisons, while almost never being used in mental healthcare nowadays.
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DX10 said:
And uh, to elaborate on this: I know someone's gonna tell me that restraints generally have to be court-ordered. Yes and no. Immediate restraint is acceptable if someone is a threat to themselves or others, and yanking an IV line out of yourself is basically tantamount to taking a knife to your wrist in many ways (and in the eyes of any doctor who didn't get his degree at Hollywood Upstairs Medical College) and no doctor would be held liable for restraining a patient if they were doing so. In some cases it's also possible to get post-fact court order to justify prior-applied restraint, though where this can be applied is fuzzy.

Generally speaking, you would only need a court order for hard restraint, IE leather/metal restraints, round-the-clock restraint-and-sedation. That sort of shit. Posey-vest/belting is pretty standard, especially for the elderly (whom Poseys were invented for)

In general, the application of restraint in medicine is always somewhat fuzzy in regards to ethics, and precedent cases for it are surprisingly rarer than you might expect, since a lot of the people being restrained are legally incompetent or lack the mental wherewithal to create a case about it. The ancient meme of every mental health facility being a straitjacket fashion show with drooling lobotomites is not true but aside from key precedent cases you don't hear a lot about restraint in MH in the USA because when it's applied, the person suffering it usually doesn't have a lot of recourse, whether because of fiscal disadvantages or mental or otherwise. The few key cases where people've kicked shit about it have usually resulted in justified ass-kicking.

There is an ongoing issue of psychiatric restraints being abused in prisons, and I'm sure it goes on in both hospitals and mental health facilities too, but by and large it's not brought up as much as say, the abuse of Solitary.

And to bring it back to the topic, as we all know (as of today when newfags like myself came into the thread), Kelly is very much definitively a threat to herself, so no doc would balk at strapping her down if she was tearing medical equipment out of her flesh.
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repentance said:
I doubt Canada has many long term care places available for young people and it's likely those available are for people more disabled than Kelly will be.
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British Columbia has the most progressive attitudes toward the disabled of all the Canadian provinces. They have multiple quadriplegic politicians. They're big on accessibility, and independent living services. They might have group homes for disabled adults, but they'd be more for the intellectually disabled. If her apartment is wheelchair accessible, they'll send her home. I'd guess home nursing for wound care, and intensive outpatient rehab, would be the usual care plan. But the complexity of her case might mean they keep her inpatient a bit longer.

If she was in my poor, have-not province on the opposite coast? We just warehouse the disabled young adults in nursing homes with the old folks. You can get up to 20 hours a week home care, but if you need any more help than that you get to room with Mabel.

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(This is a different area than where Kelly lives; the hospital where she is may not have exactly the same program. But most Canadian hospitals want you discharged as soon after surgery as possible.)
 
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DumbDude42 said:
i think the full reality of leglessness still hasn't set in for her yet
when it does, she will be hit with overwhelming despair and regret, which might drive her into heavy drug abuse or even suicide
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Normal people do go through depression after losing limbs or experiencing another disabling event, BUT people tend to revert to their baseline level of happiness afterwards. Its been studied a lot. Your mood before the event is the most important factor.

on the other hand, there are people who are out of their minds and only get on effective psychiatric medication after they've really fucked themselves up. Being able to know the truth might be harder on her than letting things continue as they are.
 
Would not even be our first munchie in long term care with amputations. Kelly already lives in group homes (allegedly?). She might prefer a medical setting anyways.
 
She mentioned way way back in the thread that she and her twin were given different last names at birth. This...seems really fishy to me. Having siblings with different last names would make it ridiculously confusing, especially if the parents have different last names too. Does anyone know why? The only thing that would make sense to me is that they were put in foster care and split up
 
Cheeseburger Picnic said:
Apparently she also has a rare disease that causes her to cry from her eyelids instead of her tear ducts. Love how her two tears are just chillin in the middle of her eyebags.
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I bet she just used some saline eye drops. It's an actor trick. I doubt she had time to find a 'cry stick' (basically menthol in a lipstick tube you can rub under your eyes that will make your eyes water over a short period of time), but I'm sure someone could have gotten her some Visine if she asked for it.
 
Meredith Swift said:
She mentioned way way back in the thread that she and her twin were given different last names at birth. This...seems really fishy to me. Having siblings with different last names would make it ridiculously confusing, especially if the parents have different last names too. Does anyone know why? The only thing that would make sense to me is that they were put in foster care and split up
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I presume it happened because their parents split up. Gina (Petrovich) was raised by their father and Kelly (Ronahan) by their mother, and while Kelly is quite the unreliable narrator, this much is true about her life.
 
All Kelly sees in amputation is a "tragic post ballerina" sticker on social. That said, I'm sure she would have continued shredding herself if it got that sweet, sweet medical attention she so craves.
 
SeniorFuckFace said:
Is the KiwiFarmer general consensus that the amputation is going to be an eventual regret which has not soaked in yet?
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I don't know that she'll regret it, but it will take a while before she fully realises just how much it will change her life. Right now she has hospital staff available to her, but once she has finished rehab and been discharged to home she will have to manage daily living activities with limited help and she won't be able to do some things on her own timetable, at least initially.
 
Calix said:
I'm curious as to how has she not caught anything from the however many hospital visits she's had? As in a healthcare-associated infection, I mean. Like staph or something. Feel free to mark as dumb/late, but she's got open wounds, picking at them with her dirty fingers and god knows what she's been exposed to by going to the hospital all the time. I'm just curious, and I'm eating all of the medical information up as it's really fucking interesting.
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She has claimed staph and strep in attached SS around the time of a 3 week hospital stay. 3 ports in less than a year because they kept getting infected. Says she was told she “more than likely” got it during the actual procedure.
 

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sarcasticslipandslide said:
I presume it happened because their parents split up. Gina (Petrovich) was raised by their father and Kelly (Ronahan) by their mother, and while Kelly is quite the unreliable narrator, this much is true about her life.
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Funny how my two favourite cows have these parallels in their upbringings.

Russell Greer was also a twin, adopted as a baby while his non-syndromy sister stayed with the bio parents. This twin sister developed into normal adult and rejected Russ when he eventually reached out to her.

Russell and Kelly share the experience of having a mysterious, emotionally distant (possibly abusive?) parent.

Just interesting to ponder how being separated from your womb-mate affects the psyche :optimistic: any psych/med folks care to sperg?
 
repentance said:
I doubt Canada has many long term care places available for young people and it's likely those available are for people more disabled than Kelly will be.
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It doesn't. Young people with complex needs that require LTC stay at the same LTC homes as old people. Some under-40s with complex conditions died of covid in the horrible LTC outbreaks last year. Some of those facilities were so strained that patients were left lying in piss for over a day, not being fed, etc. The army had to come in and help some of those places out because things got so crazy.

Soooo that's Kelly's future, several decades sooner than it had to be.

ETA: h/t @Behavioral Sink for letting us know it's different in BC. But regardless of province, I'm sure if anyone can burn through their at-home support because of their need for attention and munch their way into an old folks home at 40, it's Kelly. At least she'll be the youngest and most flexible girl there! And old people love ballerinas.

@Unflushable Turd, re: separating womb mates, those triplets that were raised separately all said they had mental health struggles, and one died by suicide. So there's that?
 
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