Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

[Draza]

Damn it! So many solid and rational points there

I was too optimistic that Kat saw the loser we all do

Maybe time I shut my hypothesizing down

BUT... If they do get may married, that would be very interesting financially

"Guyz, with the upcoming wedding and honey moon, things are really tight financially right now. If you want me to stream from the wedding, and be able come back from my 2 week honey moon in California and BE ABLE TO KEEP DOING THIS, Pledge now! YouTube sucks as you know, and I can't survive on that money alone"

Gets married. Five years later, divorced raped and stuck with child support(Pray that they don't have kids). Will beg his cult to pay off his alimony and child support.

 

[Sparkletor]

DSP will never have children. Kids are expensive and Dave can barely pay his bills, dood.

Plus it would be next to impossible for him to be able to actually take care of the child. The man can barely cook himself dinner or do his own laundry.

 

[CabbageMan]

Stormy Daniels Dave's next soulmaid?

 

[thebonesauce]

So who would be Phil’s best man?

Sidella?

 

[Haunter]

DSP will never have children. Kids are expensive and Dave can barely pay his bills, dood.

Plus it would be next to impossible for him to be able to actually take care of the child. The man can barely cook himself dinner or do his own laundry.

Sadly, there's too many couples that this sound reasoning hasn't kept from having children.

I think the relationship trajectory goes: Sleep with each other for a while, just cuz > Relationship carries on for a while but is falling apart, so one or both turn to marriage to fix it > This doesn't work, so maybe a kid will (repeat maybe two more times) > Neither have been getting what they need out of this for so long, one or both have an affair > Get divorced.

Phil's already turned to the Marriage-Bandaid once before. He's not introspective or creative enough to pull out of the trajectory that leads these confused couples to have kids.

 

[Sparkletor]

Sadly, there's too many couples that this sound reasoning hasn't kept from having children.

I think the relationship trajectory goes: Sleep with each other for a while, just cuz > Relationship carries on for a while but is falling apart, so one or both turn to marriage to fix it > This doesn't work, so maybe a kid will (repeat maybe two more times) > Neither have been getting what they need out of this for so long, one or both have an affair > Get divorced.

Phil's already turned to the Marriage-Bandaid once before. He's not introspective or creative enough to pull out of the trajectory that leads these confused couples to have kids.

I agree with your first statement that some people have kids to try and fix their relationship. Dave is not your average person.

This is a man who refuses to do a DSP tries it video because a hamburger is too expensive.

This is a man who was unable to keep a spider plant alive.

This is a man who had a BMW and didn't change the oil because the dealership didn't call him and tell him to.

This is a man who did not know how to do laundry until he was 35 years old.

 

[Raven'sChild]

So possibly:
he may go out with Kat (to a nice dinner or other outing weekly)...BUT in order to continue to be able to *legitimately* ask people to send him money online to pay his 2 mortgages and house/car bills, for the service of playing video games & streaming, he has decided to refrain from telling the people that give him money that he actually goes out (unless he slips up)

I think this set up is rationalised by snort in that (& I think he has said) detractors hurt him with information he discusses...delusional

Kat has bagged herself a real winner!!

My mortgage on a 1665 sqr ft home on 2 acres of land with close to an acre of road frontage less than a mile from the intercoastal in Fla is $358/month. WITH central air my electric is around $80/ month in Summer...IN FLORIDA in a MUCH bigger house in a vastly HOTTER climate. Looking online: Monthly utilities for Renton Wa ( power, heating, cooling, water and garbage ) for a 915 sq ft $144...TOTAL. We are talking about a guy who GOES NO where and has pulled in 6 figures for years while being a hermit in Conn. There is NO way he spent ALL his Machinima YouTube monies. Wonder why he doesn't cry about his Washington house payments? I wager he bought it outright with his bankrolled YouTube monies or darn close to it which is why he got behind on his Conn Condo payments. DSP is ALL about semantics. He never once said his townhouse would be subject to foreclosure. He has only said he may have to sell it to settle his tax issue. I am willing to wager that townhouse is PAID IN FULL. Crippling Credit Card debt? From buying what? What as he bought outside of furniture for his Washington Townhouse YEARS ago and video games? How much can the Staycations he took Panda on have cost that he is in so much debt? 1-3k? He's been making that in a month with money to spare EVERY SINGLE MONTH for YEARS just off his YouTube vids!

As far as the air conditioning speculation, DSP has an air conditioning unit seen here on the left.View attachment 568534
It had a hose connected to it that went out the window. DSP took the hose out for the winter. It would take far too long to put the hose back, so he just bought a fan online and waited for it to be shipped.

Indeed! Why the sudden NEED to go buy a fan?

Sadly, there's too many couples that this sound reasoning hasn't kept from having children.

I think the relationship trajectory goes: Sleep with each other for a while, just cuz > Relationship carries on for a while but is falling apart, so one or both turn to marriage to fix it > This doesn't work, so maybe a kid will (repeat maybe two more times) > Neither have been getting what they need out of this for so long, one or both have an affair > Get divorced.

Phil's already turned to the Marriage-Bandaid once before. He's not introspective or creative enough to pull out of the trajectory that leads these confused couples to have kids.

The ONLY reason he proposed to Panda was because he got called out on stream with her fake engagement ring PERIOD. $200 non diamond engagement ring they had *cough* bought YEARS ago? Is anyone here buying that? Dave's 'Panda EmergenREEE' vid was the straw the straw that broke the camel' back after their truly fake engagement announcement in that her friends and co-worker SAW it!

 

[Haunter]

I agree with your first statement that some people have kids to try and fix their relationship. Dave is not your average person.

This is a man who refuses to do a DSP tries it video because a hamburger is too expensive.

This is a man who was unable to keep a spider plant alive.

This is a man who had a BMW and didn't change the oil because the dealership didn't call him and tell him to.

This is a man who did not know how to do laundry until he was 35 years old.

Definitely, Phil should not be compared 1:1 against the average person. My interpretation of Phil has been that he's the average schlub, just accelerated to hyper-real speed. He's like a caricature of the contemporary West's problems, in the way I think all Lolcows are.

I don't mean to say Phil would want children. He would just have to nod his head and say "Yes, dear". He thinks in the moment, and is averse to conflict. Backed into a wall, I think he'd take what would at that moment appear to be the path of least resistance. Engagement, Wedding, Pregnancy, Birth, raise a young child. That could buy him maybe five years of not having to think about being in a relationship he resents.

This is just speculation. I don't want it come off like I've cracked the code to his future or whatever

My mortgage on a 1665 sqr ft home on 2 acres of land with close to an acre of road frontage less than a mile from the intercoastal in Fla is $358/month. WITH central air my electric is around $80/ month in Summer...IN FLORIDA in a MUCH bigger house in a vastly HOTTER climate.

Dood, this is way too much information.

The ONLY reason he proposed to Panda was because he got called out on stream with her fake engagement ring PERIOD. $200 non diamond engagement ring they had *cough* bought YEARS ago?

Ah, right. That did force his hand, didn't. The DSP timeline is so hard to keep track of

 

[thebonesauce]

My mortgage on a 1665 sqr ft home on 2 acres of land with close to an acre of road frontage less than a mile from the intercoastal in Fla is $358/month. WITH central air my electric is around $80/ month in Summer...IN FLORIDA in a MUCH bigger house in a vastly HOTTER climate. Looking online: Monthly utilities for Renton Wa ( power, heating, cooling, water and garbage ) for a 915 sq ft $144...TOTAL. We are talking about a guy who GOES NO where and has pulled in 6 figures for years while being a hermit in Conn. There is NO way he spent ALL his Machinima YouTube monies. Wonder why he doesn't cry about his Washington house payments? I wager he bought it outright with his bankrolled YouTube monies or darn close to it which is why he got behind on his Conn Condo payments. DSP is ALL about semantics. He never once said his townhouse would be subject to foreclosure. He has only said he may have to sell it to settle his tax issue. I am willing to wager that townhouse is PAID IN FULL. Crippling Credit Card debt? From buying what? What as he bought outside of furniture for his Washington Townhouse YEARS ago and video games? How much can the Staycations he took Panda on have cost that he is in so much debt? 1-3k? He's been making that in a month with money to spare EVERY SINGLE MONTH for YEARS just off his YouTube vids!

Indeed! Why the sudden NEED to go buy a fan?


The ONLY reason he proposed to Panda was because he got called out on stream with her fake engagement ring PERIOD. $200 non diamond engagement ring they had *cough* bought YEARS ago? Is anyone here buying that? Dave's 'Panda EmergenREEE' vid was the straw the straw that broke the camel' back after their truly fake engagement announcement in that her friends and co-worker SAW it!

Over 9000.

Anyway, he sunk himself into credit card debt a long, LONG time ago. Like 2005 EVO long ago. Since then I would imagine he’s making minimum payments on it. Probably why he’s still in debt and why his credit score is still fairly good.

 

[Commander Keen]

Over 9000.

Anyway, he sunk himself into credit card debt a long, LONG time ago. Like 2005 EVO long ago. Since then I would imagine he’s making minimum payments on it. Probably why he’s still in debt and why his credit score is still fairly good.

There’s a strange school of economic thought that tells people to charge up a credit card and make minimum payments on it to build up an outstanding credit score so you get favorable interest rates on everything else you buy/lease/whatever.

 

[TheGoutinator]

If Dave had a kid he would definitely use him/her for his Twitch/Youtube channel. He'd make them his new Rambo to do father/son/daughter co-op playthroughs with.
The kid would also make it easier for him to play the victim against the detractors. "They came after my own child! Called them a Horse-roach! These people are mentally ill for coming after a four year-old!"

 

[BeanBidan]

Apologies if already covered... His last Instagram pic with the girl is dated 26 May. Rare evidence that he actually goes outside

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His most recent posts are of the TV screen with what he is watching (embarrassing in my opinion)

Tbh I used to do that on instagram but it was videos of anime openings of what i was currently watching. So many different Lupin III openings. Good times.

 

[sperginity]

Imagine dating a dude that worked out 5 times a week, was good looking (no homo) and liked to work on cars, then cheating on him with DSP.... Something doesn't add up.

Answer: Money

Maybe he was an even shittier boyfriend than Phil. The looks/money stuff is only part of the calculation. Plenty of guys that look like a good catch are total pieces of shit to their girlfriends in private.

 

[actually]

Over 9000.

Anyway, he sunk himself into credit card debt a long, LONG time ago. Like 2005 EVO long ago. Since then I would imagine he’s making minimum payments on it. Probably why he’s still in debt and why his credit score is still fairly good.

Even more pathetic (imo), he claims he paid that off with the filthy dirty money he made initially from Machinima. He has since (again, according to him, so massive grain of salt) undone all of that by buying the WA Kahndo, taking out at least a couple of "business loans", and using credit cards with abandon. And if all the mess about him not making payments (or doing it intermittently) is true, his credit score is probably pretty shit. Two big knocks you can have are missing payments (ones that get reported anyway) and having a high debt ratio (defined as current debt, not including some types like mortgages, divided by your total available credit).

 

[Agentsmith]

Even more pathetic (imo), he claims he paid that off with the filthy dirty money he made initially from Machinima. He has since (again, according to him, so massive grain of salt) undone all of that by buying the WA Kahndo, taking out at least a couple of "business loans", and using credit cards with abandon. And if all the mess about him not making payments (or doing it intermittently) is true, his credit score is probably pretty shit. Two big knocks you can have are missing payments (ones that get reported anyway) and having a high debt ratio (defined as current debt, not including some types like mortgages, divided by your total available credit).

Somewhat related to his finances, (apologies if discussed before) why would the Kat need the pig to buy her a phone??

Seems very strange to me... Though I imagine it allowed him some control over her; given he pays the bill

So IF she was to go, she'd need to (likely) take over those phone payments - on top of rent / car & other bills. Maybe unlikely she will go then

Also re DSPs finances - one thing I haven't seen discussed is tax deductions. DSP could l possibly claim bank interest, phone, internet & various other things as deductions as they are part of his *business*. This would greatly reduce his tax. Disappointing

 

[Fetal Alcohol Syndrome]

why would the Kat need the pig to buy her a phone??

Maybe she heard how long Philip paid for Leanna's phone after she dumped his ass and wanted a new free phone.

 

[Sparkletor]

Somewhat related to his finances, (apologies if discussed before) why would the Kat need the pig to buy her a phone??

Seems very strange to me... Though I imagine it allowed him some control over her; given he pays the bill

So IF she was to go, she'd need to (likely) take over those phone payments - on top of rent / car & other bills. Maybe unlikely she will go then

Also re DSPs finances - one thing I haven't seen discussed is tax deductions. DSP could l possibly claim bank interest, phone, internet & various other things as deductions as they are part of his *business*. This would greatly reduce his tax. Disappointing

The phone she had in Michigan was most likely on Subaru man's plan.

 

[Agentsmith]

The phone she had in Michigan was most likely on Subaru man's plan.

*Pre Kat arrival correspondence with Phil*

Kat: so I'm really keen to live with you...I can't wait. My damn ex saw your messages so I need to leave asap

DSP: Me either...I think we are soul mates. Most days when I'm bored streaming I think about you

Kat: awe... Well when I arrive I'll need a few things. First I need you to get me a phone as my current plan is on my evil ex's account. Second is he won't let me take the Subaru so I'll need to use your car. Third, I'll need new clothes as Seattle is much warmer than Michigan and all I have is thick coats. And forth can you get me a direct flight? The delay last time was Soo annoying

DSP: Yes for sure. I'll need to run a fund raiser. No problems though. Swaggins should be good for $1-2000 in the next 2 months

Kat: great. Oh I'll need a gym membership too and some new things for the house

DSP: Of course. I can't wa...

Kat: asap please. Ok bye


DSP Stream: ok guys I'm not gonna lie... I've been better. I need to raise ALOT of money or I'll lose my HOUSE. TIP me now if you want to see me keep doing this

 

[Sparkletor]

*Pre Kat arrival correspondence with Phil*

Kat: so I'm really keen to live with you...I can't wait. My damn ex saw your messages so I need to leave asap

DSP: Me either...I think we are soul mates. Most days when I'm bored streaming I think about you

Kat: awe... Well when I arrive I'll need a few things. First I need you to get me a phone as my current plan is on my evil ex's account. Second is he won't let me take the Subaru so I'll need to use your car. Third, I'll need new clothes as Seattle is much warmer than Michigan and all I have is thick coats. And forth can you get me a direct flight? The delay last time was Soo annoying

DSP: Yes for sure. I'll need to run a fund raiser. No problems though. Swaggins should be good for $1-2000 in the next 2 months

Kat: great. Oh I'll need a gym membership too and some new things for the house

DSP: Of course. I can't wa...

Kat: asap please. Ok bye


DSP Stream: ok guys I'm not gonna lie... I've been better. I need to raise ALOT of money or I'll lose my HOUSE. TIP me now if you want to see me keep doing this

Probably about right except Vidar was his whale at the time, not Swaggins

 

[MissDMeaner]

- one thing I haven't seen discussed is tax deductions. DSP could l possibly claim bank interest, phone, internet & various other things as deductions as they are part of his *business*. This would greatly reduce

I'm fairly certain it was discovered that he does this, or maybe it was speculation. I remember Tevin saying that he probably writes his "office" off as a business expense as well as his "business internet"