Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

[Haunter]

if im not wrong, but she had a boyfriend. one with a job and car, etc etc, and she left to fly her ass all the way across the country to live in phils bigger house and be with him? cause she was chatting with him on the side? *not to mention while leanna was still with phil too* theyre both scumbags. wouldnt surprise me if theyre both cheating on eachother already. but they deserve eachother. so its hard to say

For every thing involving DSP, I think it's important to keep in mind that we only have his word to go on.

With the Kat situation in particular, we had the rare contribution from Subaru Guy, until he was chased off, but we're still reliant on Phil. To judge Kat's personality, we are reliant on how she appeared when she was dragged out in front of a camera for people she new already hated her. To judge Kat to be a scumbag based on the testimonies of Phil, and on that mortifying Q&A would be... unhelpful :/

Timelines + DSP are always a difficult combination. I'm still confused about Kat's apartment, the scene of the Demon Imprisonment. Kat was streaming from that apartment. There was at least a couch to sleep on, plus her computer was there. Would she not have been leaving there as well? Would she then have broken up with Subaru Guy by that point? Or did he say they were still together?

 

[Prince Lotor]

Even if they aren't in honeymoon stage, Kat is stuck out there until she A. Finds another man, or B. Saved up enough. She came out to Phil's with nothing, so that tells me she didn't have shit where she was at. Even with the higher minimum wage out there she isn't making alot. She is stuck out there. Even if she found a "Tyrone" or is out of the honeymoon faze where is she gonna go? She would be dumb to transition into another guy this early unless he's loaded and desperate.

Stop being jealous guys and look at the facts. Stop calling a breakup so early.

Do tell, what is Kat's job and how much money does she make? How much debt exactly is Kat in? Don't hold out the miIk on us dood.

Also this is a forum, we have discussions. @ or quote the direct thing you are talking about, if you are so confident in your opinion directly address what you are talking about instead of stating generalizations endlessly, and then pulling some 'UMAD Bro?' bullshit when anyone asks what the fuck you are talking about.

Also there's like 6 fucking people here. What would you expect to happen if you walked into a room of six guys as the new guy and immediately declared, 'Some of you seem like homosexuals.'? I would pretty much assume that you were a really awkward gay guy who didn't know how to proposition people.

You're missing what half of the fun that 'trouble in paradise' speculation is (Hint: It's in one of the stickied thread titles), it has also been explicitly stated in a few posts recently in the General thread. Here is my honest best advice to you: LURK MOAR then maybe you won't be like 100 pages behind on the conversation

Welcome to the Farms, have a nice stay

 

[GreasyPickle]

Do tell, what is Kat's job and how much money does she make? How much debt exactly is Kat in? Don't hold out the miIk on us dood.

Also this is a forum, we have discussions. @ or quote the direct thing you are talking about, if you are so confident in your opinion directly address what you are talking about instead of stating generalizations endlessly, and then pulling some 'UMAD Bro?' bullshit when anyone asks what the fuck you are talking about.

Also there's like 6 fucking people here. What would you expect to happen if you walked into a room of six guys as the new guy and immediately declared, 'Some of you seem like homosexuals.'? I would pretty much assume that you were a really awkward gay guy who didn't know how to proposition people.

You're missing what half of the fun that 'trouble in paradise' speculation is (Hint: It's in one of the stickied thread titles), it has also been explicitly stated in a few posts recently in the General thread. Here is my honest best advice to you: LURK MOAR FAGGOT then maybe you won't be like 100 pages behind on the conversation

Welcome to the internet's rape dungeon, have a nice stay

Lol , calm down :autism:

Anyways, this is what I think is going on with Phil at least since we can't really say wheither or not Kat is cheating.

1. Phil lost his biggest supporter.

2. Phil is no longer getting home cooked meals with Kat's new schedule.

3. Phil is seeing the exact same signs he saw with Leanna when the relationship started dwindling.

Phil loves money above all else, so losing his top supporter via his own doing for allowing sidella and swagass to do whatever has to sting. Plus his viewers have decreased rapidly. He's barely getting 300 viewers on Twitch and his YouTube views are below a million for the first time ever.

Remember this time last year Phil was all fake depressed and fat because he couldn't get "home cooked" meals? Well that time has arrived again. He's back to ordering junk food and eating hungrymans with Kat's new schedule. Why isn't he so public about it like he was last year? Last year he could feign pity, if he says the same words today with Kat living there it would make him look bad and the relationship was on the rocks.

I truly believe if Phil could manipulate Kat to stay in the house and cook and clean all day and never have any outside friends or obligations, he would. Unfortunately his manipulation skills aren't nearly as effective in real life as they are over the internet. I think he's upset that he's seeing the same pattern he saw with Leanna. Start working, meet new people, they see how adult life suppose to be, and then questions and concerns start to get raised about Phil. I assume this trend is happening much faster this time around because Kat is older.

As far as Kat cheating or leaving, I don't think she's there yet. I do believe the seeds are being sown.

 

[Sparkletor]

Timelines + DSP are always a difficult combination. I'm still confused about Kat's apartment, the scene of the Demon Imprisonment. Kat was streaming from that apartment. There was at least a couch to sleep on, plus her computer was there. Would she not have been leaving there as well? Would she then have broken up with Subaru Guy by that point? Or did he say they were still together?

The demon possession took place when she was still a minor. Completely different house.

Her former address was the same as that of a place where a family died from carbon monoxide poisoning when the dad was running a propane generator or something in the basement. It was some years ago and they were not related to Kat at all. To my knowledge this has not really been looked into much more than that.

The streaming apartment I have to assume she shared with Subaru guy. As far as I can piece together he found out about Kat and Phil and told her to get out. He gave her some time to get her stuff together. DSP had been throwing out the possibility of Kat moving to Washington sometime in the future and after Kat got found out the story turned into her lease is suddenly up at the end of the month and she needs to leave.

 

[Prince Lotor]

Lol , calm down :autism:

Anyways, this is what I think is going on with Phil at least since we can't really say wheither or not Kat is cheating.

1. Phil lost his biggest supporter.

2. Phil is no longer getting home cooked meals with Kat's new schedule.

3. Phil is seeing the exact same signs he saw with Leanna when the relationship started dwindling.

Phil loves money above all else, so losing his top supporter via his own doing for allowing sidella and swagass to do whatever has to sting. Plus his viewers have decreased rapidly. He's barely getting 300 viewers on Twitch and his YouTube views are below a million for the first time ever.

Remember this time last year Phil was all fake depressed and fat because he couldn't get "home cooked" meals? Well that time has arrived again. He's back to ordering junk food and eating hungrymans with Kat's new schedule. Why isn't he so public about it like he was last year? Last year he could feign pity, if he says the same words today with Kat living there it would make him look bad and the relationship was on the rocks.

I truly believe if Phil could manipulate Kat to stay in the house and cook and clean all day and never have any outside friends or obligations, he would. Unfortunately his manipulation skills aren't nearly as effective in real life as they are over the internet. I think he's upset that he's seeing the same pattern he saw with Leanna. Start working, meet new people, they see how adult life suppose to be, and then questions and concerns start to get raised about Phil. I assume this trend is happening much faster this time around because Kat is older.

As far as Kat cheating or leaving, I don't think she's there yet. I do believe the seeds are being sown.

Kat started microwaving Dave Schwan's meals months ago. Last I heard she was cooking like once a week, and her cooking always pretty much consisted of a baked meat and mashed potatoes.

Kat pretty much went into this with eyes open as a 27 year old, I don't think she's going through an accelerated 'Leanna get's a job, meets actual humans, finds out about the real world, and slowly pulls away in growing disgust' pattern. All she seems to want is a man to provide her with a house, she seems to have a fucked up personal rental history.

She's going to be nice to Dave and keep his emotions manipulated as long as she gets that, but she's a gold-digging cheater. It would not surprise me at any point if she suddenly moved out because she found something better, and she's demonstrated she will look and act on it even if she has a man. She flew out to have romantic weekends with Dave 3 times when she was living with her long-term boyfriend who was paying for her shit until like January and lied to him about it so he would keep paying.

I don't think she's suddenly going to get fed up with Dave or see through him, or reach some threshold where she can't take anymore. She feels nothing for him and has always just been playing nice and telling him what he wants to hear. She knew exactly who he was when she started going after him. I don't think there is a 'there' for her to get to regarding cheating on and leaving Dave, she was there before she ever met him.

I guess the point I'm really confused on is, do you think they have an actual mutul relationship? You seemed to say several times that "aloota peepul' were jealous of it and were predicting it's early demise due to that. I think they have a living arrangement where Dave gets to pretend they are together and Kat plays along while keeping him at arms length.

Maybe Dave finally shot himself in the foot and after she shot down a marriage proposal asked her for money to help out with bills more because he wouldn't be able to lower his tax bracket by filing her lower level of income jointly with his? It does always tend to be about money with Dave.

 

[Freshtodeath]

It's pretty obvious she just told him what he wants to hear. Remember, before she moved in she was going to cook and clean and was his soul maid. No girl tells you they are soul mates on like 3rd date or whatever. Then once she moved in all that changed. If she actually liked him you bet she would film DSP tries it for him. I sort of always agreed with the business relationship theory.

 

[Haunter]

The demon possession took place when she was still a minor. Completely different house.

Her former address was the same as that of a place where a family died from carbon monoxide poisoning when the dad was running a propane generator or something in the basement. It was some years ago and they were not related to Kat at all. To my knowledge this has not really been looked into much more than that.

The streaming apartment I have to assume she shared with Subaru guy. As far as I can piece together he found out about Kat and Phil and told her to get out. He gave her some time to get her stuff together. DSP had been throwing out the possibility of Kat moving to Washington sometime in the future and after Kat got found out the story turned into her lease is suddenly up at the end of the month and she needs to leave.

Sorry, I should have linked the information I was referencing. This post by neger is the only thing I know about it, and what I was basing my thoughts on

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Now I'm reasonably convinced based upon floor plans that this is a 1:1 match.

The two bizarre things I've found which have stumped me are as follows (keep in mind I have no reasonable way of knowing what the hell is going on, so take it "as is"):

• Lived or worked at an address (according to records) in Michigan where a family of 6 (husband/wife & children) all lived at some stage or owned the property. Its unclear what the relationship was. The family all died in a carbon monoxide poisoning incident (dated ~19 feb 2016)
  • http://www.tctimes.com/news/one-yea...cle_5509a874-f880-11e6-a5aa-b39f5b95ef64.html
    
  • https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michigan-family-dead-co-poisoning_us_56cb5dede4b0ec6725e35f36

I picked up the erroneous belief somewhere that the Simultaneous Family Suffocation and the Demon Child Imprisonment happened at the same place. It was only the SFS apartment that she stayed at.

The way I understood this was the interior apartment photos neger connected to Kat's streaming location came from the SFS apartment. I don't know how how else he'd have connected the interiors. It's possible I confused that too, though.

I guess she could have been living in the SFS apartment with Subaru Guy. It seemed kinda barren to have two people living in it, with just a couch in the living room.

 

[Sparkletor]

Maybe Subaru guy spent all his money on his stereo system so Kat could do "hair tricks"

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

Maybe Subaru guy spent all his money on his stereo system so Kat could do "hair tricks"

Or she was thinking "All that money he spent on a sound system instead of on me"

 

[ReentryPhantom]

Kat is there dood she is making steak fajitas tonight. They're the best steak fajitas ever!

 

[DiabeticSP]

Kat is there dood she is making steak fajitas tonight. They're the best steak fajitas ever!

https://www.schwans.com/products/recipe?id=42643

 

[millais]

So does she sleep in a separate room from Phil? He gets the upstairs, she gets the downstairs?

 

[actually]

https://www.schwans.com/products/recipe?id=42643

Can't find on the Schwan's site, but: https://www.myfooddiary.com/foods/3032544/schwans-fajita-meat-beef

 

[SauceRyuKen]

Is she really making him "homemade" Schwan's fajitas? If true, I think we got Dave into overdrive

The plushie, the TKOH guy coming over to say their relationship is not that bad and we're ALL AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, but at the same time, no one in particular, VERY jelly of their romantic love. I get it dude, you're extremely thirsty for the horsepuss and think Kat is definitely a great catch. An eyebrowless, boring, gold-digging cheater who will literally just throw some peanut butter on a cake and call it homemade. The type of girlfriend who has to think for an extremely awkward second before she remembers your name and almost calls you Dave in front of an audience. Boy, I sure wish I could get blueballed by a fairly unattractive woman who will not only try to suck my wallet dry, but drop me the SECOND she finds someone better. That's what any mature adult, who is NOT a children's entertainer, would want. /sneed

Their relationship works because Kat only wants food and board and Phil only wants a trophy to parade around. Soulmates at the third date, indeed. They do check each other's boxes remarkably well. Thing is, they're both very shallow people. Dave knows this and is trying to deflect it too. "We got hobbies together I didn't tell you about, guys." Like what? Ghalf? You don't leave the house and she doesn't come in very often. You can't sit together on a couch without being awkward. I doubt you even catch a flick together every week, much less do something together. You sure as fuck aren't working out with her.

Dave, my friend, if you want to shut up the "The Kat is now gone!" speculation and theories, it's real easy. Take a picture of you two holding a paper with today's date on it, addressed "To my friends at Kiwifarms." Better even, let her run a very special OVW shtreem with controller on PC. I'm sure the Wings comparisons will NOT be made. She probably won't even be as bad as you. Then again, maybe that is what you fear.

 

[DarkSoulsPhil]

"Uh, the kat is now gone"

 

[thebonesauce]

I just wanna say, that plushie keeping Dave company is the most autistic thing I’ve ever seen.

 

[GreasyPickle]

Is she really making him "homemade" Schwan's fajitas? If true, I think we got Dave into overdrive

The plushie, the TKOH guy coming over to say their relationship is not that bad and we're ALL AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, but at the same time, no one in particular, VERY jelly of their romantic love. I get it dude, you're extremely thirsty for the horsepuss and think Kat is definitely a great catch. An eyebrowless, boring, gold-digging cheater who will literally just throw some peanut butter on a cake and call it homemade. The type of girlfriend who has to think for an extremely awkward second before she remembers your name and almost calls you Dave in front of an audience. Boy, I sure wish I could get blueballed by a fairly unattractive woman who will not only try to suck my wallet dry, but drop me the SECOND she finds someone better. That's what any mature adult, who is NOT a children's entertainer, would want. /sneed

Their relationship works because Kat only wants food and board and Phil only wants a trophy to parade around. Soulmates at the third date, indeed. They do check each other's boxes remarkably well. Thing is, they're both very shallow people. Dave knows this and is trying to deflect it too. "We got hobbies together I didn't tell you about, guys." Like what? Ghalf? You don't leave the house and she doesn't come in very often. You can't sit together on a couch without being awkward. I doubt you even catch a flick together every week, much less do something together. You sure as fuck aren't working out with her.

Dave, my friend, if you want to shut up the "The Kat is now gone!" speculation and theories, it's real easy. Take a picture of you two holding a paper with today's date on it, addressed "To my friends at Kiwifarms." Better even, let her run a very special OVW shtreem with controller on PC. I'm sure the Wings comparisons will NOT be made. She probably won't even be as bad as you. Then again, maybe that is what you fear.

Wow man. Great projection. You're very imaginative with how a relationship would go if you ever dated Kat. It's like you've sat and thought about it for a while...

Anywho, I just pushed the notch towards Kat being half way out the door. That plushie is very telling. It's been a year, you moved her half way across the country into your home rent free and all she got you was a plushie?

Lol.

I can tell that's the only thing she has ever got for him because of how he's showing it off like he does everything else. And though this is pathetic, I wouldn't put it past him if he bought the plushie himself just to tell his viewers she actually did something for him. I don't think he would go that far, just I wouldn't be totally surprised if we ever learned he did.

I'm sure she is still there because Phil likes to remove all evidence of ever being with someone like he did with Leanna. He literally turned all their pictures to face the wall and had to buy all new Christmas decorations because it reminded him of her too much. That plushie would not be there if she was gone already.

 

[thebonesauce]

Wow man. Great projection. You're very imaginative with how a relationship would go if you ever dated Kat. It's like you've sat and thought about it for a while...

Anywho, I just pushed the notch towards Kat being half way out the door. That plushie is very telling. It's been a year, you moved her half way across the country into your home rent free and all she got you was a plushie?

Lol.

I can tell that's the only thing she has ever got for him because of how he's showing it off like he does everything else. And though this is pathetic, I wouldn't put it past him if he bought the plushie himself just to tell his viewers she actually did something for him. I don't think he would go that far, just I wouldn't be totally surprised if we ever learned he did.

I'm sure she is still there because Phil likes to remove all evidence of ever being with someone like he did with Leanna. He literally turned all their pictures to face the wall and had to buy all new Christmas decorations because it reminded him of her too much. That plushie would not be there if she was gone already.

Welcome to KiwiFarms! Just a warning, Dave banned and basically scrubbed @BSV from his life because he came over here from TKOH forums. Be wary, and welcome aboard.

(In case you can’t tell, we kinda know you’re a fan who migrated over here. If you’re collecting information for Dave, don’t worry about it. Dave reads the Farms every day.)

 

[GreasyPickle]

Welcome to KiwiFarms! Just a warning, Dave banned and basically scrubbed @BSV from his life because he came over here from TKOH forums. Be wary, and welcome aboard.

(In case you can’t tell, we kinda know you’re a fan who migrated over here. If you’re collecting information for Dave, don’t worry about it. Dave reads the Farms every day.)

If that's what you choose to believe. I thought most detractors use to be fans of Phil?

Damn man, I thought I would be in deep cover longer. I have all your names written down, I have your avatars screenshotted, all for nothing. Phil a guy that couldn't deal with BSV, a ex mod who donated thousands, come here freely has me who hasnt donated a dime coming over here to keep tabs on what's being said about him and his girlfriend while talking shit about him.

Yup, you got me.

 

[thebonesauce]

Well, based on your near constant passive aggressive nature (calling people jealous of Dave’s relationship, accusing @SauceRyuKen of projecting) I can’t help but think you’re a fan. Most people who come to the Farms aren’t in the business of mindlessly taking jabs at people for expressing their thoughts, yet you seem to do it on every post you’ve made.

I don’t want this to turn into a slap fight, I’m just saying, if you’re not actually a fan and just came to the Farms for the discussion, tone it down on making assumptions about people and what they think. It makes you look like a fanboy who migrated here to give us all the proverbial, “GOT EM,” when you decide to reveal yourself.

In any case, welcome. Enjoy your stay. Have a laugh or three. There’s a lot of interesting stuff and if you branch out a bit to other lolcows (Maddox (
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/maddox-george-ouzounian-george-schnoz.24527/)
and Bryan Dunn aka KingOfPol (
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bryan...st-the-exceptional-detective-boomerphil.7451/)
are really funny with their exploits) you’ll definitely have a good time.