Crime Josh Duggar Arrested - 19 Years and Counting?

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Josh Duggar is in custody in Arkansas federal law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

The reality star was arrested Thursday by federal agents in Washington County, and he's being held in a detention center without bail.

We've obtained Duggar's mug shot, showing the former reality star posing with a bizarre smirk.

As we reported ... back in November 2019, Homeland Security agents were crawling around the car dealership where Duggar works in Arkansas, raiding his office in connection to a federal probe.

Josh's only current legal dispute, as far as we know, is a civil lawsuit filed against him for real estate fraud. It would appear his latest arrest is for something far more severe, though it's unclear exactly why he's been taken in.

tmz.com/2021/04/29/josh-duggar-arrested-in-arkansas-feds/

My votes for Cheese Pizza.
 
Also, if it turns out that the children were being sexually abused, and that the mother was covering up for him, she should lose her kids and go to prison as well.
 
Also, if it turns out that the children were being sexually abused, and that the mother was covering up for him, she should lose her kids and go to prison as well.
Yep. And quite frankly, considering how Jim Bob and Michelle handled him molesting his sisters, they should do a check on little Josie as well.
 
Yep. And quite frankly, considering how Jim Bob and Michelle handled him molesting his sisters, they should do a check on little Josie as well.
Honestly every kid Josh might have had contact with needs to be interviewed. Dude had access to probably hundred of little kids between his younger siblings, cousins and niblings, and his own kids.

I and lots of other people also suspect Jim Bob himself has probably done some sex pest shit. Would be surprised if there are other sex pests in the Duggar family as well.
Also, if it turns out that the children were being sexually abused, and that the mother was covering up for him, she should lose her kids and go to prison as well.
Unfortunately that's probably the case. Anna is a victim of pretty awful cult brainwashing, but she's also an adult and it's her responsibility to protect the kids. If it turns out she was enabling her chomo husband to abuse them I agree she deserves prison time as well (and hopefully can get some real counciling while in prison).

With Anna and other Duggars women it's definitely a case where someone can be both an abuse victim and an abuser at the same time. Shit, not that it excuses it at all but we know even Josh himself had a pretty messed up childhood. Other than the physical and psychological abuse we know about, I kind of wonder if Josh himself was first a victim of a sex pest and unfortunately chose to continue the cycle of abuse (and was enabled every step of the way).

I think we've only scratched the surface of the skeletons in the closet of the duggar family and their associates. Fundies are like troons and male feminists in that the depravity and awful shit they've done runs deep and is just barely hidden from outsiders.
 
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These folks also have tons of political power. There's a reason there are so many pictures of Josh with various political figures. I am not being partisan, either: the Dems would totally cozy up to the same sort of sleazeball among their own base.
Problem is that when the dems do it, their pet preacher takes all those voters off to Guyana and convinces them to murder each other.
 
Also, there was another case very similar to the Scully case that I recall hearing about - I think it was from a Youtube video - it was some Russian guy named "Dimitri" who ran a DarkNet site that allegedly offered a "necros pedos" video (aka child snuff film) - but when I google for information about the case, I can't find any of the details.
I found it here:

Britain is a key link in the biggest ever international investigation into the production and supply of paedophile 'snuff' movies - in which children are murdered on film - an Observer investigation can reveal. The key suspect in the inquiry, Dmitri Vladimirovich Kuznetsov (aka Dmitri Ivanov) - a Russian who was arrested last week in Moscow for distribution of thousands of sadistic child porn videos and pictures, was traced following the seizure of his products from British paedophiles.


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The only hits I were able to find on it though were stuff talking about "Pizzagate" or "Jewish conspiracies":

 
That is very weird. I assume they must have had low sex drives. It's not uncommon for people who aren't taught anything about sex to figure out masturbation on their own, after all. It's not something that needs a manual. 🤔

Don't guys get blue balls when they go too long without an orgasm?


I assume it's a mix of nature and nurture. At any rate, it's probably a good idea not to let young men change diapers if it can be avoided. Sexuality is shaped early in life and if for some reason the boy starts fetishizing it you're left with either an adult baby or a pedophile on your hands.


I bet he's going to molest his kids if he hasn't already.

If only Josh had ended up as a garden variety diaperfag instead of beating it to snuff CP. If it was just leaked pics of him in soiled didies and a onesie we could all just laugh. This is just sick.

Take this with a grain of salt because it's from The Sun but supposedly his wife thinks he dindu nuffin wrong and it's an evil Biden plot... Even though the raid that uncovered this took place when Trump was in office.

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Oh, and btw: the family Josh is staying with? The wife teaches kids piano. So that's great.

His brainwashed stepford wife is loony and definitely won't leave him. If this is true then she is deeply entrenched in whatever nonsense he and the other men in her life feed her. Sadly, most of these extreme fundie women aren't too bright. It's not their fault. They are raised to be nothing more than baby machines. The only thing they are expected to know is motherhood.

I remember reading a story once about one diddler who sent his computer in for repairs and had a folder literally on his desktop titled something like "Preteen Rape Porn" or some shit.

Alas, there are actually some who have skill with this sort of thing. I was reading an article that was the account of someone who investigates pedo rings for a living and some are insidiously savvy. They seem to reside solely on the two ends of the spectrum: amazing at covering their tracks or terrible at it.

I would not be shocked if Josh tries to make a break for one of those countries like the Philipines that pervs like him love. It might be harder for him because he's so high profile. However, we thought he'd not be able to get out on bail so who knows. The Duggars seem to have way deeper pockets than I thought.

Edit: Oh, great, if you want more proof that their whole community is riddled with sex pests, it looks like an ex-"courter" of Jana Duggar is a convicted statutory rapist and is currently suing his rape victim for custody of their two year old.

He looks like he is simultaneously missing and having too many chromosomes.:cringe:

I think Jana has really dodged a bullet so far. She might be the family babysitting slave but at least she doesn't have to deal with a rapist that could have been her husband. This is the type of guy Jimbo picks for his daughters. A sexually violent pervert who wants custody of his female rape baby. Any judge who hands this kid over should be disbarred, tarred and feathered.
 
Honestly every kid Josh might have had contact with needs to be interviewed. Dude had access to probably hundred of little kids between his younger siblings, cousins and niblings, and his own kids.

I and lots of other people also suspect Jim Bob himself has probably done some sex pest shit. Would be surprised if there are other sex pests in the Duggar family as well.

Unfortunately that's probably the case. Anna is a victim of pretty awful cult brainwashing, but she's also an adult and it's her responsibility to protect the kids. If it turns out she was enabling her chomo husband to abuse them I agree she deserves prison time as well (and hopefully can get some real counciling while in prison).

With Anna and other Duggars women it's definitely a case where someone can be both an abuse victim and an abuser at the same time. Shit, not that it excuses it at all but we know even Josh himself had a pretty messed up childhood. Other than the physical and psychological abuse we know about, I kind of wonder if Josh himself was first a victim of a sex pest and unfortunately chose to continue the cycle of abuse (and was enabled every step of the way).

I think we've only scratched the surface of the skeletons in the closet of the duggar family and their associates. Fundies are like troons and male feminists in that the depravity and awful shit they've done runs deep and is just barely hidden from outsiders.
Exactly. Their leader literally preached blaming the victims of sexual abuse, the ultimate authority of men over women, and the role of women to be pliant baby machines/sex receptacles. When you stress that half of the human population is literally meant to be fucked and nothing else, then you train people to see them as sex objects at any age. Add in the idea that you are the natural ultimate authority over these sex objects and the social isolation they enforce to shield their followers from the evil secular world... You get the idea. Human beings in general have a really fucked up attitude and approach to sexuality but it is definitely worse in these circles.

One of the biggest (and predictable) ironies about Fundamentalists is that they are more obsessed with sex than most of us Godless Secular fornicators. I don't know if it's because their taboos heighten the excitement of it or because they don't get release like we do or what, but it happens. A friend of mine who watched the show a few times said what always struck her was how weird everyone was about it. She said it was especially bad in wedding episodes where all any of the adults could talk about wasn't the flowers, the dress, the couple, the cake, the music or whatever... it was about the fact that the couple was about to have sex. Including the people who were the couples' relatives. During the "courting" episodes where Jim Bob and Michelle were chaperoning the couples, Jim Bob would have his arms around Michelle while taunting his kids with "You can't do this!!!!!" Parents would show a shameless preoccupation with the sex lives of their children, especially the daughters. Even stuff that is normally quite innocent gets sexualized when it comes to the girls. I was literally reading about a fundie family book that at first describes a charming, sweet little scene with a father taking his six year old girl to get ice cream and then it ends with, "Fathers have now begun dating their daughters." And yes, that was considered a good thing. Like, yeah, Fathers and father figures definitely play a huge role in teaching girls how they deserve to be treated by men in their lives, but calling it dating is just disturbing. And don't even get me started on Purity Balls, where they take what should be an innocent father/daughter dance and add a sexual element.

There's also the element of the punishments that came with what should have been normal sexual curiosity in a young man going through puberty. One son was caught masturbating and had his hands tied together as punishment. Other types of corporal punishment are often used. When you do that, you're not teaching your kid to be pure, you're instilling in them during their most formative years to associate sex with punishment. So you have these boys and men who know little of the world, who see a lot of innocent things oddly sexualized, being taught that women and girls are sex objects that are supposed to be held to a very specific view of "purity" and are at fault for anything that is done to them, that they are the ultimate authority over them, and that sex and punishment go hand in hand. On top of that you have this family that are also taught that if they are showered with a lot of financial and political blessings (like, say fame and fortune as a result of a successful TV show) that means God approves of all you do. God "gave" the Duggars their fame and fortune after Josh got a slap on the wrist for molesting his sisters.

Josh isn't just a pedophile, he also rapes and abuses adult women. He's been accused of it by sex workers and I believe them. He also had not one, but two premium Ashley Madison accounts. And, of course, this is the fault of his wife for not being "pleasing" and "available" enough to him and the filthy women and the filthy secular world that tempted him.

This sort of thing is also rampant in other Fundamentalist sects, from Saudi Arabia to Polygamist Compounds in the asscrack of Utah to Hippie Communes turned cults like the Children of God.

Essentially, the Duggars have been a living recipe to create a sex monster and it is only a matter of time until more shit comes out about more of them.
 
Exactly. Their leader literally preached blaming the victims of sexual abuse, the ultimate authority of men over women, and the role of women to be pliant baby machines/sex receptacles. When you stress that half of the human population is literally meant to be fucked and nothing else, then you train people to see them as sex objects at any age. Add in the idea that you are the natural ultimate authority over these sex objects and the social isolation they enforce to shield their followers from the evil secular world... You get the idea. Human beings in general have a really fucked up attitude and approach to sexuality but it is definitely worse in these circles.

One of the biggest (and predictable) ironies about Fundamentalists is that they are more obsessed with sex than most of us Godless Secular fornicators. I don't know if it's because their taboos heighten the excitement of it or because they don't get release like we do or what, but it happens. A friend of mine who watched the show a few times said what always struck her was how weird everyone was about it. She said it was especially bad in wedding episodes where all any of the adults could talk about wasn't the flowers, the dress, the couple, the cake, the music or whatever... it was about the fact that the couple was about to have sex. Including the people who were the couples' relatives. During the "courting" episodes where Jim Bob and Michelle were chaperoning the couples, Jim Bob would have his arms around Michelle while taunting his kids with "You can't do this!!!!!" Parents would show a shameless preoccupation with the sex lives of their children, especially the daughters. Even stuff that is normally quite innocent gets sexualized when it comes to the girls. I was literally reading about a fundie family book that at first describes a charming, sweet little scene with a father taking his six year old girl to get ice cream and then it ends with, "Fathers have now begun dating their daughters." And yes, that was considered a good thing. Like, yeah, Fathers and father figures definitely play a huge role in teaching girls how they deserve to be treated by men in their lives, but calling it dating is just disturbing. And don't even get me started on Purity Balls, where they take what should be an innocent father/daughter dance and add a sexual element.

There's also the element of the punishments that came with what should have been normal sexual curiosity in a young man going through puberty. One son was caught masturbating and had his hands tied together as punishment. Other types of corporal punishment are often used. When you do that, you're not teaching your kid to be pure, you're instilling in them during their most formative years to associate sex with punishment. So you have these boys and men who know little of the world, who see a lot of innocent things oddly sexualized, being taught that women and girls are sex objects that are supposed to be held to a very specific view of "purity" and are at fault for anything that is done to them, that they are the ultimate authority over them, and that sex and punishment go hand in hand. On top of that you have this family that are also taught that if they are showered with a lot of financial and political blessings (like, say fame and fortune as a result of a successful TV show) that means God approves of all you do. God "gave" the Duggars their fame and fortune after Josh got a slap on the wrist for molesting his sisters.

Josh isn't just a pedophile, he also rapes and abuses adult women. He's been accused of it by sex workers and I believe them. He also had not one, but two premium Ashley Madison accounts. And, of course, this is the fault of his wife for not being "pleasing" and "available" enough to him and the filthy women and the filthy secular world that tempted him.

This sort of thing is also rampant in other Fundamentalist sects, from Saudi Arabia to Polygamist Compounds in the asscrack of Utah to Hippie Communes turned cults like the Children of God.

Essentially, the Duggars have been a living recipe to create a sex monster and it is only a matter of time until more shit comes out about more of them.
This, pretty much all this. The Duggars aren't even really unique with this shit either, these attitudes and behaviors and the abuse that inevitably happens because of it are rampant amongst all conservative religious communities, especially more isolated ones. I grew up in the bible belt and have talked to lots of people who had crazy fundie parents, this shit is horrifyingly common.

All communities have sex pest but fundies are particularly bad about it, especially because of the level of protection they give perpetrators and blaming they do to victims (especially girls).

I'm glad Jill seems to be breaking away from that shit, I know she and her husband are still conservative but at least they're calling out Josh's bullshit for what it is and she wears pants and doesn't want to just pop out way more kids than they can care for. Unfortunately that's also why JB has banned her from visiting unless he's there. I guess a woman wearing pants is more unacceptable to him than his son being a violent sexual predator.
 
His brainwashed stepford wife is loony and definitely won't leave him. If this is true then she is deeply entrenched in whatever nonsense he and the other men in her life feed her. Sadly, most of these extreme fundie women aren't too bright. It's not their fault. They are raised to be nothing more than baby machines. The only thing they are expected to know is motherhood.
One historical anecdote that always stuck with me in regards to brainwashed, enabling wives and religion is that of the Maquis de Sade, the God-King of degeneracy from which we get the term Sadism. His wife was super religious, and the Bible says "Obey your husband and devote yourself to him." So, as a result of said husband being the Patron Saint of Perverts, she ended up buying him hookers, organizing his orgies, helping him escape from prison, etc. One of the ultimate ideas of this was to be so good to him that he has an awakening and finds God through you and if he doesn't, you're just not being a good enough wife. Because if the husband doesn't become a godly man thanks to your perfect example, you're failing in some area: nurturing, obedience, patience, forgiveness, beauty, piety, etc and God is punishing you for it. As a wife, you get none of the authority and all of the responsibility.

Anna is definitely deeply entrenched. This is being framed to her as simply a "problem" Josh has that is being blown out of proportion by the evil secularists who want to persecute good Christians. Victim mentality and persecution complexes are also a huge component here, as most fundies have a desperate desire to be one of those Christians thrown to the lions while fighting a war for Christ. I wouldn't be shocked if she thinks most of the stuff on Josh's machines was planted there by evil Demoncrats taking advantage of Josh's "problem." A problem she will be able to fix if she just sticks by him and is a good enough wife.

She is definitely brainwashed and entrenched in this. Apparently Josh told her and her parents about diddling his sisters before they got engaged. Now, from what I've heard, her parents are major socialn climbers in the Fundie circles. By the time she started courting Josh, The Duggars had already had multiple Discovery Channel Specials and were in talks to produce 17 Kids and Counting. Jim Bob had also run for state senate. So the Duggars were already big celebrities in the Arkansas Fundie circuit and the overall Quiverfull sphere. So they were pretty "famous" and influential even before they became America's Most Famous Reproductive Clown Car. As far as her parents were concerned, they probably saw this as marrying their daughter to a crown prince. I would not be shocked if the pressure was put on her to dismiss what happened as a mere issue that had been resolved and was all in the past.

A couple of her siblings who got out actually offered her a place for her and her kids when the Ashley Madison scandal broke out. Anna stayed then, so I am not confident that she will see the light this time. No matter how horrible the material is, if you're convinced that it's all a conspiracy, it won't change your resolve. My fear is that this will end with those kids in the system and needing a lot of therapy.
This, pretty much all this. The Duggars aren't even really unique with this shit either, these attitudes and behaviors and the abuse that inevitably happens because of it are rampant amongst all conservative religious communities, especially more isolated ones. I grew up in the bible belt and have talked to lots of people who had crazy fundie parents, this shit is horrifyingly common.

All communities have sex pest but fundies are particularly bad about it, especially because of the level of protection they give perpetrators and blaming they do to victims (especially girls).

I'm glad Jill seems to be breaking away from that shit, I know she and her husband are still conservative but at least they're calling out Josh's bullshit for what it is and she wears pants and doesn't want to just pop out way more kids than they can care for. Unfortunately that's also why JB has banned her from visiting unless he's there. I guess a woman wearing pants is more unacceptable to him than his son being a violent sexual predator.
Yep. Jill isn't just "having a problem" like poor Josh, she is an aberration now. She's pierced her nose. She's imbibed a cocktail. She's worn pants. She may have even touched a vibrator!!! :stress::stress::stress::stress::stress:

But most of all, she committed the cardinal sin: she and her husband asked to be paid for their work. Jim Bob for years kept his kids under the impression that they were not paid for the show and that it was merely a "ministry" and that all their new stuff were just blessings from God. He then made the mistake of letting in a young man with an actual brain and some real world experience. While I do not like Derek Dillard's other views, he's smart as a fucking whip. He was able to play the good little evangelical baptist fundie long enough to get married to Jill. Then, after the wedding, whoops! It all comes out that he's a Calvinist who was raised by a working mother with a career, was heading to law school, was okay with non-hormonal birth control, and fraternized with homosexuals! He had Jim Bob's number and once he was in, he uncovered a lot about the family's finances, including the fact that his wife had had her entire childhood exploited for no compensation. This filthy Calvinist Radical Feminist Corrupter (in Jim Bob's view, anyways) had the heathen belief that women deserve to be paid for work they do. Apparently the final straw for him was with Counting On where Jill had not one but two difficult births on camera and Jim Bob still was refusing to pay them a dime unless they agreed to move onto the Duggar Compound and Derek sacrificed his own ambitions to come work for him. So Derek took him to court and ultimately they got compensation that amounted to well under minimum wage. Since Jim Bob's actual Gods are power and money, this is the ultimate sin.

In other news, apparently the next son-in-law Jim Bob chose (for Jessa, his "bossy" daughter) is a spineless little weiner who is just around to suckle from the Duggar teat.

Josh's "struggles", meanwhile, make him actually more dependent and under Jim Bob's control.
 
Wasn't Anna's family pretty poor as well? I've heard part of why she shacked up with Pest Duggar was as a meal ticket for herself and her fundie parents. I'd also heard that about a few of her siblings leaving the fundie cult bullshit, shame Anna refused to take their offers.

I hope one of them has straight up told Anna that by continuing to associate with the Duggars she's putting her kids in danger. Let her know what she's doing without sugarcoating it.

That said I can only imagine the shitfit JB especially would throw if Anna did decide to call it quits and take the kids and go live with one of her siblings. Can't imagine he'd react well to a woman not only getting a divorce, but divorcing his golden boy.

The fact that JB is the one who gets all the TLC checks (even for a show he wasnt in) is probably why none of the other kids have really rebelled. He was probably also trying to use Jill as an example of what happens if you do something as awful as demand access to money you rightfully should have access to.
 
Wasn't Anna's family pretty poor as well? I've heard part of why she shacked up with Pest Duggar was as a meal ticket for herself and her fundie parents. I'd also heard that about a few of her siblings leaving the fundie cult bullshit, shame Anna refused to take their offers.

I hope one of them has straight up told Anna that by continuing to associate with the Duggars she's putting her kids in danger. Let her know what she's doing without sugarcoating it.

That said I can only imagine the shitfit JB especially would throw if Anna did decide to call it quits and take the kids and go live with one of her siblings. Can't imagine he'd react well to a woman not only getting a divorce, but divorcing his golden boy.

The fact that JB is the one who gets all the TLC checks (even for a show he wasnt in) is probably why none of the other kids have really rebelled. He was probably also trying to use Jill as an example of what happens if you do something as awful as demand access to money you rightfully should have access to.
Precisely. They're very careful to keep the idea going that divorce is the worst possible "sin." As is any "sin" that ultimately amounts to "not letting Jim Bob control every aspect of your life."

It's almost certain that money played a part in this marriage. Despite the image that the Duggars project, most of these families are dirt poor in the extreme. The poverty rate among Quiverfull folk is extremely high. Hell, when the show first started out the Duggars were crammed into about 3 bedrooms, wore homemade clothes, used homemade laundry detergent, and ate an almost all-potato diet. And even then they were still better off than most Quiverfull families. We're talking about a lot of low-education people in some of the poorest states in the US having unlimited babies and by virtue of their beliefs, only having one parent work full time and limiting their access to mainstream society. And since a lot of them buy into that prosperity gospel bullshit, a bunch of them are "tithing" to some church or another hoping that someday those "seeds" they're sowing will blossom into a big ol' money tree of God's Rewards. Tons of these people are on welfare and have 6-12 kids running around a trailer park and use said kids for cheap labor.

Jill is definitely been made into an example. Even Jinger, who moved out of state with her husband, still stays on the Quiverfull leash. Luckily for Jill and the world, making her an "Example" is not going too well for Jim Bob. All this stuff with Josh is making people pay even closer to the obvious double standard going on. I also suspect that after a while, the community is going to turn on the Duggars because this is airing a LOT of dirty laundry in their community and casts their lifestyle in the worst light possible. Out of everyone, Jill is the only one coming out of this looking good.
 
He raped his wife too, guaranteed. Marital rape is super common in fundamentalist communities, whether Christian or Muslim.
Oh, definitely, but it will never be recognized as these people don't believe you can rape your wife and that a wife has to be always available to her husband.
 
Oh, definitely, but it will never be recognized as these people don't believe you can rape your wife and that a wife has to be always available to her husband.
Yep. Didn't Michelle even say some gross shit once about how she always has to be "joyfully available" for JB?
 
Any updates? Wonder if Josh is still with his babysitters or if Boob, Meech, and Anna have already brought him back to Duggar HQ on the downlow.
He is wearing an ankle monitor. I would think that violating his bond conditions is too big of a risk when the consequence is jail - as a chomo.
 
So hey guys, I found those old Gothard/IBLP/API guideline books on sexual abuse I mentioned earlier. And uh, if Dorxster is still wondering how we could put any blame on Jim Bob and Michelle, I'd say raising kids by these guidelines more than answers the question! (Oh, and there's some lovely Domestic Violence Apologia in there as well, as a treat, in reference to what I was saying about wives earlier.)

And yes, Jim Bob and Michelle were 100% adherents to this.

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He is wearing an ankle monitor. I would think that violating his bond conditions is too big of a risk when the consequence is jail - as a chomo.
He still has unlimited access to his kids as long as Anna is there. And I doubt she'll do anything to stop him from abusing them.

Isn't Gothard also a confirmed chomo?
 
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