💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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IAmNotAlpharius said:
Considering his decline, do you think the fame got to him? Or in your opinion was he always a bit nuts just that the screeching feminists made him seem more reasonable?
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Considering his new tour is really just him recycling his old stuff, I think he was like any other high-tier English professor I've met; kinda interesting because of his book knowledge and a bit overrated from his adherents. It's just that Canada went nuts from a bizarre combination of cowardice (ShortFatOtaku is the most chickenshit person I've ever seen) and SJW leadership.
 
IAmNotAlpharius said:
I never knew my mother and my father was an egomaniac liar who saw his sons as tools and nothing more. Despite this, I’ve never seen the need for an Internet dad that tells me to clean my room and my duck.

Ah. Thanks for clarifying. I thought he had a son too but I wasn’t sure if I was mixing him up with someone else. I never heard of his son doing anything so I assumed he was normal. If he was nuts too imo that would reflect more poorly on Jordan than if he had just one nutty offspring...

I always pegged Jordan as someone who studied psychology because he himself suffered from mental issues. I haven’t studied psychology but his mannerisms, his body language, and the way he carries himself reminds me of some smart men I know that studied psychology but also suffer from depression and/or other serious mental illness. It could be a coincidence but some of the similarities were similar.

Considering his decline, do you think the fame got to him? Or in your opinion was he always a bit nuts just that the screeching feminists made him seem more reasonable?
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I think it's the last one.

I've watched a few of his lectures and his rambling, nowhere-near-a-point style tells me he was on the decline long before he hit the limelight. Being able to reach a conclusion is sort of a prerequisite for being a college professor. I'd agree he got into psych because he suffered from mental issues, and that's more than likely where the benzo habit came from. Also explains his daughter becoming a munchie. His only saving grace is that next to a shrieking dangerhair, anyone looks stable. See also Sargon of Akkad, Milo Yianopolis (sp), et al.
 
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What do you like about Jordan Peterson? Is it his anti-SJW politics? His self-help speeches and writings? Used to be a fan myself, but now I'm a critic and don't know what his current fanbase is like. I heard they were originally anti-SJW types, but they moved on and Peterson has more fans of his self-help stuff now.
 
I can't believe this has not been brought to our attention yet.


At about 21:00 Jordan and Mikhaila do breathing exercises instructed by Wim Hof.

The jokes practically write themselves at this point.

(EDIT: For those who are for some reason or another unable to watch this freakshow in live action, Jordan is very close to having a complete meltdown and even goes to say that he thinks he did well because he didn't have a full-blown panic attack.)
 
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Peaches Demure said:
I believe this is Mikhaila's place and Peterson is just a guest (like he's supposed to be on her podcast) but who knows?
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Yeah, it's Mikhaila's set, and her choice of posters.

There's a certain subset of young people who don't fit in, so they try to prove they're cooler than their peers by displaying imagery from old pop culture, without ever having been an actual fan of those things.

Somehow, we're supposed to believe Mikhaila Peterson digs Marlon Brando, Clint Eastwood, and Johnny Cash, when I can pretty much guarantee she's never seen On the Waterfront or Dirty Harry, and the only Cash song she might be able to identify off the top of her head is "Ring of Fire." It's possible she YouTubed an episode of Lynda Carter-era Wonder Woman, but I doubt she's ever seen more than that. So I look at her choice of set decor, and it's total LOL poser stuff.

Maybe I put my Freud hat on by mistake this morning, but Brando (cigarette held vertically and rising smoke), Eastwood (outsized, erect pistol barrel), and Cash (upraised middle finger thrust at the camera) are all making phallic displays. Any one of those posters on its own might not have pinged my Freud-dar, but the three of them together? That's not coincidental--though whether it's intentional or not, I don't know.

But it's funny that she's got these aggressively masculine figures looming over her scrawny, Kermit-voiced father--who, I am certain, she has dragged into co-hosting her podcasts in an attempt to get people to actually watch her. That she has any viewership at all is solely due to her being JBP's daughter--she's just not hot enough to counterbalance her lack of charisma. But any lobsterboys who needed a push to tune in will get it, now that their idol is making appearances.

(That said, I haven't watched the pod yet to see how well Peterson is able to function, mainly because I can't stand Mikhaila. But there's still something that looks really "off" about him in the thumbnail. I guess I should check it out.)
 
Private Eye notes that Jordan Peterson, based defender of Freedom of Speech, met with Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán and agreed with him that "political correctness" was the real problem. They note that under Orbán's rules, the news media has been concentrated in the hands of Orbán's buddies.
 
Glad I couldn't help said:
Private Eye notes that Jordan Peterson, based defender of Freedom of Speech, met with Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán and agreed with him that "political correctness" was the real problem. They note that under Orbán's rules, the news media has been concentrated in the hands of Orbán's buddies.
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How strange that a man so maligned in press, half the time for things he hasn't said or done, resulting in constant protests both in his neighborhood and at place of work, might see the value of a press that is being held to account for misinformation.

I more and more begin to understand this "post truth" era we live in.

It's multiple sides that have broken from each other to such a degree, there's a fight against "misinformation" on each side and a refusal to ever acknowledge, even passively the truth of the others. At least the moonlanding was a footnote in soviet papers during the cold war.

I was just watching Dutch debates where Orban was mentioned, with one politician praising him for keeping out muslims and therefor not having many of the problems other European countries have, including muslim terror attacks. Then the other blaming him for praising Orban, when he is anti-jewish and also has "gay free zones". And even without going into it, you just know you're getting only half the story at best.

For example most of the "coronafund" from countries like Netherlands to countries like Italy, to deal with the virus, have been used for LGBT causes instead.It's a subject where you rarely get an accurate description.
 
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Jordan Peterson is a weak man without the strength of character to put his own words into action. Despite supposedly being a professional psychiatrist with medical expertise, he still managed to become a pill addict.

And on top of that, his two biggest pieces of advice can be summed up with a total of six words. If "Clean your room" and "Wash your balls" are revolutionary pieces of life advice to you, then you are a fucking slob who should go back to checking in between your blubber folds in the hope of finding another lost french fry.
 
TheShedCollector said:
Jordan Peterson is a weak man without the strength of character to put his own words into action. Despite supposedly being a professional psychiatrist with medical expertise, he still managed to become a pill addict.

And on top of that, his two biggest pieces of advice can be summed up with a total of six words. If "Clean your room" and "Wash your balls" are revolutionary pieces of life advice to you, then you are a fucking slob who should go back to checking in between your blubber folds in the hope of finding another lost french fry.
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Given the fact that this guy attracts neckbeard followers like a lamp does flies, those pieces of advice may have been very fitting to this target audience.

He basically got a stint of popularity because he said a few things which "triggered" SJWs - that was the bandwagon he was riding, and now that the Trump election is over he'll probably fade into obscurity.

I never read his "books", but they just sounded like cheap, unoriginal mass market "self-help" literature designed to cash in on a passing fad.

If I cared about Carl Jung, I could just buy or rent an ebook like "Man and his Symbols" and read the whole thing in a few hours.
 
TheShedCollector said:
Jordan Peterson is a weak man without the strength of character to put his own words into action. Despite supposedly being a professional psychiatrist with medical expertise, he still managed to become a pill addict
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Nonsense. It is very courageous of him to put his health in the hands of 2nd world hospitals.
 
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IAmNotAlpharius said:
I always pegged Jordan as someone who studied psychology because he himself suffered from mental issues. I haven’t studied psychology but his mannerisms, his body language, and the way he carries himself reminds me of some smart men I know that studied psychology but also suffer from depression and/or other serious mental illness. It could be a coincidence but some of the similarities were similar.

Considering his decline, do you think the fame got to him? Or in your opinion was he always a bit nuts just that the screeching feminists made him seem more reasonable?
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To the first point...I believe he does suffer to some degree from mental issues. He's mentioned in numerous interviews how he had problems with alcohol growing up. There's even a video of him claiming you can determine your "level" of alcoholism by measuring your body's reaction to consuming it. I also think the reaction he had to his wife's diagnosis is a bit of an indicator.

Your last point I think is spot on. I remember watching Tristan Harris (the guy in the "Social Dilemma" documentary) and he mentioned something that really stuck out to me with celebrities. He said as social creatures, we adapt to our social spheres by adapting to the people in them. This is simple if your sphere is a handful of people, but if you have thousands or millions of followers, the brain can't handle managing social expectations for so many people. I think this has played a massive part in his decline.

Also, if you watch early videos of his right around time he was gaining that famedom, he is very composed, but later videos he becomes very cynical and snarky, which is something that JP himself has condemned.
 
I have to correct myself when I said earlier in this thread that his mental issues started later on and he was once relatively normal before the U.S fame. I've been watching a little more of the old Steve Paikin videos with Jordan and I'll say he has actually always been very off. Before I only saw the panel discussions, I didn't see the episodes where Jordan is given his own little time to step on the soap box and give his view points. Like the ''Goodbye to good man'' video from nearly a decade ago... oh boy, even wearing a fedora with a feather sticking out of it too. In many videos he looked dishevelled and went off on tangents. He's basically always had issues.
 
No shit. He was on tv about how he was dealing with depression about 10 years ago.

When someone talks on air about their severe problems with depression, you don't have to analyse grooming, presentation and how scatterbrained or not they are.

The fedora one is funny though isn't it? He's been trying to catch eyes in a variety of ways.
 
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