💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[Lemmingwise]

̶I̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶r̶e̶c̶i̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶e̶s̶s̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶p̶f̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶d̶a̶y̶.̶ ̶T̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶g̶r̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶r̶i̶t̶i̶c̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶.̶ ̶Y̶o̶u̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶f̶f̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶e̶n̶j̶o̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶.̶
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Nevermind, looks like you did reply to me there, I just hadn't gone through it yet.

1. And what gives your preference the right to override other people's preference to be with someone of a different race?
Before you try and say "but I just want to be left alone!": you constantly sperg out whenever someone mentions race-mixing and talk about how it's a moral wrong- the only difference between you and people who rant about "mudsharks" and "coal burners" is that you use polite language, which does count for something but still leaves the impression that you'd bring back miscegenation laws if you could.

The only difference is that I use polite language?

I've never called it moral wrong, which should say a lot, since you know by now that I'm quite the unrepentant moralist.

There is a cost to racemixing and it's another one of those things that most people don't know or refuse to acknowledge the facts of. So it's exactly the kind of thing I will drone on and on about.

If you want it clear I'll say it in clear language, I'm against having miscegenation laws. I'm for being able to talk about the science of race-mixing and in general what we know, would warn against it. If just talking about negative aspects of something makes you think that I want to forbid it, that's your problem, not mine.

He is not saying "literally every Jew race-mixes"- he is saying "Jews do not practice racial purity internally while demanding everyone else race-mix externally", as your retort attempted to imply.

He is giving a defense for genocide and pardon me for taking issue with it. I must say, I don't feel guilty for mocking that.

They're better at continuing the practice of their traditional culture and language than you Dutchmen are, and that's with a coordinated effort in the past century to try and destroy said culture that'd make White Genocide conspiracy theorists wet themselves.

I don't know on what basis you think you can judge that they practice culture and language like they did historically, but I have my doubts about your self-perceived expertise. It seems like it is something that is very hard to judge. You may be better at being able to judge it from afar, but then how do you manage to judge the traditionality of Dutch culture and language from over there?

In any case, it's a pretty easy shot, since the frequenty Dutch culture and language revolution should be a wet dream to you. We can't even read things written 200, 300 years ago with how frequently our language rules were updated top-down. When documents about the first nieuw amsterdam colony were found, they needed people that had studied old-Dutch.

If you said that americans were better at continuing practice of traditional culture and language than us Dutchmen are it would also be true. Pre-Dutch culture is much more interesting anyways.

It would be better for them to mix though. Ashkenazi jews are predisposed to a plethora of genetic diseases (canavan disease for example) due to their inbreeding.

How can they be inbred? I've just had two people shout at me that jews practice racemixing at every level. Are you suggesting they weren't being accurate?

Tammy is a super popular white trash name. Tammy Faye Baker, Tammy Wynette. I’ve never met a Jewish Tammy.

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GUYS GUYS GUYS, ita has become clear, since we've devolved to talking about race-mixing and jews, that Jordan Peterson the lolcow, just like his brain, has dried up. At least for now. Sad stuff.

Ha ha, not getting scared people will have a quick laugh at you here are you? There's room for more than one lolcow in this thread

It's a good point though, let's get back on track.

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I still just want to know from @Sweetpeaa what arguments Peterson has made against feminism.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Biracial people are hot af.

Biracial women are. Biracial men, such as Tim Pool, are not.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

When you present yourself as a moral arbiter you are going to have to live morally. Peterson probably wasn't cut out for it.

True, he's a shell of a man now, and that's not a good thing for anyone, but that's what happens when you make choices you clearly should not have.

He never once presented himself as a moral arbiter or an ethical authority. He made observations. He did not deserve what was done to him, and sadly he was a flawed and weak enough person to succumb to it. The sheer totality of the ascendant Left came down on him, and he was unprepared for it. That doesn't detract from either the validity of his message, or the bravery of his stand.

 

[Justtocheck]

̶I̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶r̶e̶c̶i̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶e̶s̶s̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶p̶f̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶d̶a̶y̶.̶ ̶T̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶g̶r̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶r̶i̶t̶i̶c̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶.̶ ̶Y̶o̶u̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶f̶f̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶e̶n̶j̶o̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶.̶
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̶I̶ ̶h̶o̶p̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶I̶ ̶s̶u̶s̶p̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶.̶

Nevermind, looks like you did reply to me there, I just hadn't gone through it yet.



The only difference is that I use polite language?

I've never called it moral wrong, which should say a lot, since you know by now that I'm quite the unrepentant moralist.

There is a cost to racemixing and it's another one of those things that most people don't know or refuse to acknowledge the facts of. So it's exactly the kind of thing I will drone on and on about.

If you want it clear I'll say it in clear language, I'm against having miscegenation laws. I'm for being able to talk about the science of race-mixing and in general what we know, would warn against it. If just talking about negative aspects of something makes you think that I want to forbid it, that's your problem, not mine.



He is giving a defense for genocide and pardon me for taking issue with it. I must say, I don't feel guilty for mocking that.




I don't know on what basis you think you can judge that they practice culture and language like they did historically, but I have my doubts about your self-perceived expertise. It seems like it is something that is very hard to judge. You may be better at being able to judge it from afar, but then how do you manage to judge the traditionality of Dutch culture and language from over there?

In any case, it's a pretty easy shot, since the frequenty Dutch culture and language revolution should be a wet dream to you. We can't even read things written 200, 300 years ago with how frequently our language rules were updated top-down. When documents about the first nieuw amsterdam colony were found, they needed people that had studied old-Dutch.

If you said that americans were better at continuing practice of traditional culture and language than us Dutchmen are it would also be true. Pre-Dutch culture is much more interesting anyways.




How can they be inbred? I've just had two people shout at me that jews practice racemixing at every level. Are you suggesting they weren't being accurate?

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Ha ha, not getting scared people will have a quick laugh at you here are you? There's room for more than one lolcow in this thread

It's a good point though, let's get back on track.

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I still just want to know from @Sweetpeaa what arguments Peterson has made against feminism.

Dutch people are ugly, pathologically tall and and lanky and I would not race mix.

 

[William S. Sessions]

He never once presented himself as a moral arbiter or an ethical authority. He made observations. He did not deserve what was done to him, and sadly he was a flawed and weak enough person to succumb to it. The sheer totality of the ascendant Left came down on him, and he was unprepared for it. That doesn't detract from either the validity of his message, or the bravery of his stand.

What exactly "was done" to poor Doc Lobster?

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

He was

What exactly "was done" to poor Doc Lobster?

pilloried publicly. Government figures were intimately involved in persecuting him, including local members of parliament. His home was relentlessly targetted by antifa and troons. They went door to door in his neighbourhood harrassing his neighbours (I was one of his neighbours). The local police were fed numerous false criminal complaints about him. He was accused of serious crimes, which, while baseless, the media eagerly parrotted His employer tried to fire him at the behest of his colleagues. His union abandoned his defense. It goes on and on and on.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

̶I̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶r̶e̶c̶i̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶e̶s̶s̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶p̶f̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶d̶a̶y̶.̶ ̶T̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶g̶r̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶r̶i̶t̶i̶c̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶.̶ ̶Y̶o̶u̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶f̶f̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶e̶n̶j̶o̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶.̶
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Nevermind, looks like you did reply to me there, I just hadn't gone through it yet.



The only difference is that I use polite language?

I've never called it moral wrong, which should say a lot, since you know by now that I'm quite the unrepentant moralist.

There is a cost to racemixing and it's another one of those things that most people don't know or refuse to acknowledge the facts of. So it's exactly the kind of thing I will drone on and on about.

If you want it clear I'll say it in clear language, I'm against having miscegenation laws. I'm for being able to talk about the science of race-mixing and in general what we know, would warn against it. If just talking about negative aspects of something makes you think that I want to forbid it, that's your problem, not mine.



He is giving a defense for genocide and pardon me for taking issue with it. I must say, I don't feel guilty for mocking that.

I think you tend to grossly overblow the negative effects of race-mixing while ignoring the same "dysgenic" effects elsewhere, and your rhetoric referring to voluntary race-mixing as "genocide" makes your denial of making a moral judgment on race-mixing seem hollow. I will take your disavowal of anti-miscegenation laws at face value, however.

He is giving a defense for genocide and pardon me for taking issue with it. I must say, I don't feel guilty for mocking that.

Are you willing to accept the statement that very few people consider voluntary race-mixing (which was the thing justtocheck was flippantly discussing) a form of genocide, and that every internationally-agreed-upon definition of genocide doesn't include an entire ethnic group having a greater or lesser degree of racial admixture? If that was the case, then the UK has been continuously genociding itself over and over for at least a thousand years.

I don't know on what basis you think you can judge that they practice culture and language like they did historically, but I have my doubts about your self-perceived expertise. It seems like it is something that is very hard to judge. You may be better at being able to judge it from afar, but then how do you manage to judge the traditionality of Dutch culture and language from over there?

In any case, it's a pretty easy shot, since the frequenty Dutch culture and language revolution should be a wet dream to you. We can't even read things written 200, 300 years ago with how frequently our language rules were updated top-down. When documents about the first nieuw amsterdam colony were found, they needed people that had studied old-Dutch.

If you said that americans were better at continuing practice of traditional culture and language than us Dutchmen are it would also be true. Pre-Dutch culture is much more interesting anyways.

I don't "judge it from afar". I live with a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indian, whose mother helped fucking put together the collection on the Southeastern Woodlands cultures in the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian. Once again, I will pay for your plane ticket, car rental, gas- hell, let's throw in room and board, too!- if you want to fly over here and tell them that they don't know enough about their own culture (that, in the case of the mother, they have an advanced degree and literal decades of work in) and in fact the Cherokee people don't exist at all because of race-mixing.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

He was

I think you tend to grossly overblow the negative effects of race-mixing while ignoring the same "dysgenic" effects elsewhere, and your rhetoric referring to voluntary race-mixing as "genocide" makes your denial of making a moral judgment on race-mixing seem hollow. I will take your disavowal of anti-miscegenation laws at face value, however.

Are you willing to accept the statement that very few people consider voluntary race-mixing (which was the thing justtocheck was flippantly discussing) a form of genocide, and that every internationally-agreed-upon definition of genocide doesn't include an entire ethnic group having a greater or lesser degree of racial admixture? If that was the case, then the UK has been continuously genociding itself over and over for at least a thousand years.


I don't "judge it from afar". I live with a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indian, whose mother helped fucking put together the collection on the Southeastern Woodlands cultures in the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian. Once again, I will pay for your plane ticket, car rental, gas- hell, let's throw in room and board, too!- if you want to fly over here and tell them that they don't know enough about their own culture (that, in the case of the mother, they have an advanced degree and literal decades of work in) and in fact the Cherokee people don't exist at all because of race-mixing.

Is she a REAL Cherokee? Or one of the the nigras that the Supreme Court decided are "Cherokee" only in name, much like the nigro "Seminoles"?

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

He was


Is she a REAL Cherokee? Or one of the the nigras that the Supreme Court decided are "Cherokee" only in name, much like the nigro "Seminoles"?

Her sibling is a member of Tribal Council. You're thinking of the Lumbee, who have no Native American descent of any kind and formed as a way for former slaves to try and dodge the prejudice that their ex-slave status would frequently visit on them, and generally are seen as annoying wewuzers by members of actual Native American tribes.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Are you willing to accept the statement that very few people consider voluntary race-mixing (which was the thing justtocheck was flippantly discussing) a form of genocide,

Even if the native americans voluntarily bred themselves out of existence, I would find that a great loss too.
My issue was with the fact that he "didn't mind" if white people would cease to exist and I abused the most common agreed tragedy to highlight it.

And if native americans did it because another group constantly makes movies, podcasts, university courses about why native american people are just the fucking worst, then yes, it would be a kind of top down genocide, even if it's subtler and slower than pogroms.

voluntary race-mixing as "genocide" makes your denial of making a moral judgment on race-mixing seem hollow.

I don't generally make the connection between the two even if there exists one. He brought up a phenotype group going out of existence, not me. Celebrating the idea, in fact.

It's a mystery to me how anyone can blind themselves to that kind of anti-race propaganda.

The reason I don't take the same moralistic tone against inbreeding for example, is because that is not taboo. People know the cost of inbreeding. We're always forced to make imperfect decisions. Anyone blocking the spread of uncomfortable truths are prohibiting others from making informed choices.


ps the fact that you take a statement at face value is appreciated and the kind of quality that originally made you one of the posters I liked reading when I first joined the farms.

I don't "judge it from afar". I live with a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indian, whose mother helped fucking put together the collection on the Southeastern Woodlands cultures in the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian.

I dunno, the statement still seems pretty big to make from afar. How much do you know about the continuity of Dutch language and culture? We may update our language so frequently that we can't read our language from even 300 years ago, but the holiday practices that people engage in are older than christianity

Once again, I will pay for your plane ticket, car rental, gas- hell, let's throw in room and board, too!- if you want to fly over here and tell them that they don't know enough about their own culture (that, in the case of the mother, they have an advanced degree and literal decades of work in) and in fact the Cherokee people don't exist at all because of race-mixing.

Alright let's do it, lol. I will cough on you and give you covid, though. Will the natives take that as an act of germ warfare?

 

[William S. Sessions]

He was

pilloried publicly. Government figures were intimately involved in persecuting him, including local members of parliament. His home was relentlessly targetted by antifa and troons. They went door to door in his neighbourhood harrassing his neighbours (I was one of his neighbours). The local police were fed numerous false criminal complaints about him. He was accused of serious crimes, which, while baseless, the media eagerly parrotted His employer tried to fire him at the behest of his colleagues. His union abandoned his defense. It goes on and on and on.

This is schizoposting.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

This is schizoposting.

No it ain't. Not even one bit. You asked what was done to him, I answered. I was typing with one hand while eating. Calm down.

 

[doomlad]

The reality of his situation politically isn't really understandable from a straightforward mindset. If he was a genuine political dissident, he was up against the state religion of a global empire every single time he tried to criticize them, which led to a lot of his life being demolished for even ostensibly trying to criticize globohomo. However, as we found out really quickly at least 3 or 4 years ago now, he was never actually against globohomo at all and was basically just a fake pretend critic of it, which led to him getting rich at the same time as having a chunk of his life demolished. His grift is not that different from someone like Charlie Kirk who's entire job is essentially to pretend to be anti-establishment while literally doing nothing.

 

[Lemmingwise]

No it ain't. Not even one bit. You asked what was done to him, I answered. I was typing with one hand while eating. Calm down.

1. How do you know non-local political leadership was involved in targeting him?
2. How were you harassed? I can imagine some way how this might work, and have seen a kind of "journalistic harassment" of people before, but I'd be interested in some specific things that happened in this case.
3. How did people in the neighborhood take the harassment?
4. How has it changed your outlook?

The reality of his situation politically isn't really understandable from a straightforward mindset. If he was a genuine political dissident, he was up against the state religion of a global empire every single time he tried to criticize them, which led to a lot of his life being demolished for even ostensibly trying to criticize globohomo. However, as we found out really quickly at least 3 or 4 years ago now, he was never actually against globohomo at all and was basically just a fake pretend critic of it, which led to him getting rich at the same time as having a chunk of his life demolished. His grift is not that different from someone like Charlie Kirk who's entire job is essentially to pretend to be anti-establishment while literally doing nothing.

I think this is true. But the left hand of an empire doesn't necessarily know what the right hand is doing. There are a lot of antifa, feminists and assorted comparable screaming at charlie kirk somewhere, probably, for example. And not quite to the degree, because charlie kirk's innovation is "rightwing + homosexual" whereas Peterson's innovation is more complex but also more critical of the left. Since he's more on attack, they get more defensive.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Even if the native americans voluntarily bred themselves out of existence, I would find that a great loss too.
My issue was with the fact that he "didn't mind" if white people would cease to exist and I abused the most common agreed tragedy to highlight it.

And if native americans did it because another group constantly makes movies, podcasts, university courses about why native american people are just the fucking worst, then yes, it would be a kind of top down genocide, even if it's subtler and slower than pogroms.





I don't generally make the connection between the two even if there exists one. He brought up a phenotype group going out of existence, not me. Celebrating the idea, in fact.

It's a mystery to me how anyone can blind themselves to that kind of anti-race propaganda.

The reason I don't take the same moralistic tone against inbreeding for example, is because that is not taboo. People know the cost of inbreeding. We're always forced to make imperfect decisions. Anyone blocking the spread of uncomfortable truths are prohibiting others from making informed choices.


ps the fact that you take a statement at face value is appreciated and the kind of quality that originally made you one of the posters I liked reading when I first joined the farms.





I dunno, the statement still seems pretty big to make from afar. How much do you know about the continuity of Dutch language and culture? We may update our language so frequently that we can't read our language from even 300 years ago, but the holiday practices that people engage in are older than christianity



Alright let's do it, lol. I will cough on you and give you covid, though. Will the natives take that as an act of germ warfare?

1.If you can't make the connection that he's doing that because you reliably get very upset when people say that kind of thing and we're on Kiwi Farms, the place where a large minority of the userbase love to find other user's buttons and then mash them into a fine paste, I don't know what to say to you.
2. Right, since you've decided to bring it down to the level of sneering when I've tried to be pretty restrained with you in this thread, we're done here.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

What exactly "was done" to poor Doc Lobster?

Things he did to himself, and things he could have easily not done. It wasn't because of the closet commies that he went to Russia for a quack treatment. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

The reality of his situation politically isn't really understandable from a straightforward mindset. If he was a genuine political dissident, he was up against the state religion of a global empire every single time he tried to criticize them, which led to a lot of his life being demolished for even ostensibly trying to criticize globohomo. However, as we found out really quickly at least 3 or 4 years ago now, he was never actually against globohomo at all and was basically just a fake pretend critic of it, which led to him getting rich at the same time as having a chunk of his life demolished. His grift is not that different from someone like Charlie Kirk who's entire job is essentially to pretend to be anti-establishment while literally doing nothing.

Most of these people are really in it for the cash, and the sooner you realize that, the better it'll be.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

1. How do you know non-local political leadership was involved in targeting him?
2. How were you harassed? I can imagine some way how this might work, and have seen a kind of "journalistic harassment" of people before, but I'd be interested in some specific things that happened in this case.
3. How did people in the neighborhood take the harassment?
4. How has it changed your outlook?

I lived in the neighbourhood about 3 blocks from Dr P. Annex neighbourhood in Toronto. There was constant schizopostering on every pole. They also went door to door "warning" everyone about the "violent transphobe menace Peterson" who endangered the neighbourhood.

Local MPs and MPPs led by Cherie DiNovo, NDP MPP and local Anglican priest, led demonstrations and a media blitz against him, making wildly innacurate accusations and demanding he be charged with Hate Crimes

Many people in the neighbourhood joined the outrage mob. Some didn't care. A bunch of us told them to fuck right off, and organised a little posse to go out after every rainstorm and scrape off the posters they wheatpasted on every available surface.

It was pretty gross. Even his local library joined in the torchmob by hosting hysterical troons to ChickenLittle about the man.

ETA they also put out hysterical and libellous googledocs article authored by a disgraced and de-liscenced former Private Investigator hired by the local IWW anarchist chapter which was virally shared before google nuked it that alleged the Peterson employed gangs of neonazis whom he directed to beat and intimidate his poor troon/antifa detractors, whom he personally targetted for violence.

 

[Lemmingwise]

2. Right, since you've decided to bring it down to the level of sneering when I've tried to be pretty restrained with you in this thread, we're done here.

I meant the germ warfare comment as a lighthearted joke. Didn't you just say that the kiwifarms is a place to make light-hearted genocide jokes?

Honestly if you want to pay for my air-ride to the US, for me to call native americans stupid to the face.... I may not be racist enough to like doing that, but I find the idea funny and ridiculous enough to do it.

If you were serious, I'd genuinely accept, just for the absurdity of it.

I also expect us to get along great in person. We share a lot more with the people we scream at online than the people we scream about. Like that Russian war where people in opposite trenches went to the same bar to drink together in the evening.

I lived in the neighbourhood about 3 blocks from Dr P. Annex neighbourhood in Toronto. There was constant schizopostering on every pole. They also went door to door "warning" everyone about the "violent transphobe menace Peterson" who endangered the neighbourhood.

Local MPs and MPPs led by Cherie DiNovo, NDP MPP and local Anglican priest, led demonstrations and a media blitz against him, making wildly innacurate accusations and demanding he be charged with Hate Crimes

Many people in the neighbourhood joined the outrage mob. Some didn't care. A bunch of us told them to fuck right off, and organised a little posse to go out after every rainstorm and scrape off the posters they wheatpasted on every available surface.

It was pretty gross. Even his local library joined in the torchmob by hosting hysterical troons to ChickenLittle about the man.

ETA they also put out hysterical and libellous googledocs article authored by a disgraced and de-liscenced former Private Investigator hired by the local IWW anarchist chapter which was virally shared before google nuked it that alleged the Peterson employed gangs of neonazis whom he directed to beat and intimidate his poor troon/antifa detractors, whom he personally targetted for violence.

I'm not 100% sure if I should trust you, but I find it quite believable. It sounds like it's true.

Do you have a link to the google docs article? Do you have photo of such a flyer that people hung up around the neighborhood?

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I meant the germ warfare comment as a lighthearted joke. Didn't you just say that the kiwifarms is a place to make light-hearted genocide jokes?

Honestly if you want to pay for my air-ride to the US, for me to call native americans stupid to the face.... I may not be racist enough to like doing that, but I find the idea funny and ridiculous enough to do it.

If you were serious, I'd genuinely accept, just for the absurdity of it.

I also expect us to get along great in person. We share a lot more with the people we scream at online than the people we scream about. Like that Russian war where people in opposite trenches went to the same bar to drink together in the evening.

Once I have the money and I think that it's safe enough for both of us, I might actually do that, but right now with all the shit that's going on in the US, I'm not making a lot of long-term plans for the next few months.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

The reality of his situation politically isn't really understandable from a straightforward mindset. If he was a genuine political dissident, he was up against the state religion of a global empire every single time he tried to criticize them, which led to a lot of his life being demolished for even ostensibly trying to criticize globohomo. However, as we found out really quickly at least 3 or 4 years ago now, he was never actually against globohomo at all and was basically just a fake pretend critic of it, which led to him getting rich at the same time as having a chunk of his life demolished. His grift is not that different from someone like Charlie Kirk who's entire job is essentially to pretend to be anti-establishment while literally doing nothing.

I don't believe he started off intending to grift. I've spoken to him personally a # of times. I do, however, that he fell victim to the notoriety of it eventually, but I believe his intentions were pure at the start, and noble the whole way through. I'd say that once he was barraged, he saw the notoriety as a way to expose the dangerous current he uncovered. When he became overwhelmed, he scaled back to philosophy and religious stuff to deflect the seige. people mischaracterised this as capitalising on his fame.