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This might explain his WHORE of a daughter.
Nigga should drop chemo wifey and go gay.
💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos
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Here is my take on JP debacle:
I sometimes wondered what will be his fall. It was kinda obvious that it will be caused by his hubris. I never thought it will be hubris combined with some astounding constitutional weakness. I am glad that he didn't get caught with child porn, because it would be much more traumatic to his followers.
His phenomenon was always truly puzzling to me, because he really doesn't say anything new. He is definitely highly influenced by Jung and Erich Neumann, as he himself admits in the video with Paglia. As a Jungian derivative he is bound to talk a lot without saying anything definite or clear. He might justify it as a way to make his audience embark on their own journey of self-discovery, but for others it's just pale, lifeless drivel. Swan song of a dead civilization that gleefully eats its own children.
I don't know how an educated person involved for however short time with clinical psychology or even culture in general could not be aware of highly addictive quality of benzos. Even the Wikipedia page spells it clearly. I think that it must have been hubris: "Everybody else could get addicted but not me."
His terror after apple cider vinegar is also baffling. It seems that he tried to be for others what he severely lack in his own life: an Anchor. A Lighthouse for the lost souls.
One thing in his book 12 Rules struck me as odd. He was comparing himself to one of his former friends who drifted into addiction and I think finally committed suicide. It was odd how he talked about a person from his own life, trying to juxtapose himself as someone better, more disciplined and more together. It is just a plain narcissistic blind spot, and JP was clearly oblivious to tone deafness of this story. In the context of the recent revelations, it seems to me that he always tried to be this ideal child to his parents. In part he succeeded with his fame, books, and academic achievement. But somewhere deep inside there is a broken child who wanted be loved as he is without a strenuous, never-ending effort to prove himself.
I sometimes wondered what will be his fall. It was kinda obvious that it will be caused by his hubris. I never thought it will be hubris combined with some astounding constitutional weakness. I am glad that he didn't get caught with child porn, because it would be much more traumatic to his followers.
His phenomenon was always truly puzzling to me, because he really doesn't say anything new. He is definitely highly influenced by Jung and Erich Neumann, as he himself admits in the video with Paglia. As a Jungian derivative he is bound to talk a lot without saying anything definite or clear. He might justify it as a way to make his audience embark on their own journey of self-discovery, but for others it's just pale, lifeless drivel. Swan song of a dead civilization that gleefully eats its own children.
I don't know how an educated person involved for however short time with clinical psychology or even culture in general could not be aware of highly addictive quality of benzos. Even the Wikipedia page spells it clearly. I think that it must have been hubris: "Everybody else could get addicted but not me."
His terror after apple cider vinegar is also baffling. It seems that he tried to be for others what he severely lack in his own life: an Anchor. A Lighthouse for the lost souls.
One thing in his book 12 Rules struck me as odd. He was comparing himself to one of his former friends who drifted into addiction and I think finally committed suicide. It was odd how he talked about a person from his own life, trying to juxtapose himself as someone better, more disciplined and more together. It is just a plain narcissistic blind spot, and JP was clearly oblivious to tone deafness of this story. In the context of the recent revelations, it seems to me that he always tried to be this ideal child to his parents. In part he succeeded with his fame, books, and academic achievement. But somewhere deep inside there is a broken child who wanted be loved as he is without a strenuous, never-ending effort to prove himself.
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It looks like the shit Dave Sim came up with in his insanely misogynistic period.
But then, Peterson's from the Joseph Campbell school of myth, and Campbell told someone that women don't get to go on the Hero's Journey, they're the prize to be won. Seems like his views on stories aren't all he took from Campbell...
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Mikhalia starts this video off stating she wants to be as honest as possible, because "there's no other way to live". Okay.
In this video from September (which is on Mikhalia's channel, not her father's), she states that Jordan was put on benzos after the stress of a surgical complication (again adding there was a 1 in 20,000 chance of this occurring) that her mother had after she had been in remission already.
In the February 2020 update video, nearly half a year later, she says he was put on benzos for an autoimmune reaction to food (???) which was then increased in dosage after her mother and Jordan's wife was diagnosed with cancer initially.
That is a very clear discrepancy.
In the earlier video, she also states she was surprised to find out that the drug had a warning label for suicidal ideation, but that she and her family had not been aware of this beforehand, since that label is only on the drugs.
(Unrelated(?): Only a month ago, Mikhalia posted another meat fetish video and seems to have a normal demeanor. )
Apparently, for the last 8 months, Peterson has felt suicidal due to Akathisia, which is a movement disorder that can be caused by certain medication. Benzos are not one of them. Benzodiazepines are actually used to treat this condition, which is most likely why it's being labelled as a paradoxical reaction.
Akathisia is described as an uncontrollable fidgeting or restless movement, like an autistic stimming that goes on forever. It requires a differential diagnosis from other possible causes such as anxiety, Parkinson's, restless leg syndrome, etc. Which I'm sure Peterson knows.
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The alternative explanation being that, perhaps, Peterson realised that in spite of all of his lectures and writing on having unwavering courage and bravery, he himself could not emotionally when something actually bad happened to him.
He found himself unable to clean his room after his wife was diagnosed with cancer—a common tragedy thousands of people go through daily. Having a realization that he lacked constitution he so urgently tried to prosthelytize unto others, he crumbled.
It's most likely he began with drugs that had far less potential side effects, but found this identity crisis still gnawing at him until he switched to benzos. They probably helped, but as soon as he felt stable again, he tried to take himself off of them—to prove to himself that he was still a man of conviction, that could still face the dark and evil dragons of the world heroically.
Of course he failed. But that failure had to have been because of others. It was the doctors, the rehabilitation centres. It was not because he, personally, was too weak.
To prove, once and for all, that he's not an addict, he traveled to Russia. Where doctors were legally allowed to nearly kill him so he could save his pride.
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The more I think about it, the less I blame Mikhalia for her actions. She has been raised by this man her entire life, and cannot handle the reality that he is weak and broken as much as he cannot.
She has forced herself to live in a carnivorous diet because it shows that her autoimmune disorders she's had since childhood are caused by what she eats—not because she is fundamentally flawed. Perhaps she witnessed the connection between people who were feminist and people who were vegan are, and seeing how her father viewed those kind of people, she leaned in the polar opposite direction. As clearly, nothing is more important to her than her father and his approval. Which is a bit more Freudian than Jungian.
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Dude, the diagram is a duck eating some fucking bread.
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This is just Jungian stuff. Dualism and alchemy with the serial numbers filed off.
Many things can be modeled as the product of opposing extremes. Sometimes this is useful.
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I agree with this explanation because it's the only one that fits with him doing something as stupid as quiting benzos cold turkey. He rationally must have known that it was stupid so the irrational must be the only reasonable explanation.
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I really want to know this too. It's normal to need a lot of physical therapy and have to "relearn" to walk and do other things after you've been in a coma, even if you have no brain damage at all. Your body is like spaghetti.
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The fucking irony.
What an arrogant prick. He now is his former friend minus the suicide but even that can happen sooner or later. But not even the friend was dumb enough to go to russia to treat his addiction & getting brain damage.
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it comes from the national post, some canadian newspaper that is familiar with petersons family, that jordan writes for, and broke the news with his daughter.
Basically before Releasing the video, she gave them a script of it, she has since cut parts of the script out, but in the original script openly admits
"and he can’t type or walk steadily yet. Still, this is a vast and rapid improvement. Last week he couldn’t sit up without help. The week before that he couldn’t lift an arm or speak "
"he has neurological damage from the benzodiazepines, "
so it is 100% brain damage, not Physical damage.
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It'll be interesting to watch this play out over the next year. Hopefully he can recover but brain damage? He's not going to be the same man that he was.
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A vegetable wouldn't be making jokes. Unless by "his sense of humor has returned" Mikhaila meant him smiling while he defecates in his pants.
Haturz are obviously exaggerating, but there's no way to know for sure yet.
ok I'm back so I'll bite. Let me start by saying this. With some more perspective, rewatching some of his lecture clips, and a lot of recent clean up of his "darker" material on the web- some of the specific comments I've forgotten (I still rememer the lipstick one, that was pretty icky and unfair bs towards women mostly from him not "getting it")- I've pretty reformed my opinion on him. The vast majority of what he says after all is pretty fucking profound, considered, and true, actually; or at least somewhat inspiring.
HOWEVER I will *also* say, that he's also a bitter, sick, pathologically miserable drug addict on a downward spiral who sure talks a lot about gender and seems to have issues with women. Oh, and he was making millions a year form donations on his Patreon with his slick lectures (I used to have that screenshot before he closed his patreon down).
I found this: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispa...erson-fully-in-context-and-incredibly-sexist/
and this I'd say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL3Hrwg3A3w
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kktI8-lZw8
tl;dr I think he's fascinating and worth listening to but be aware he's kind of sexist too. Over-focused on Devouring Mother and discusses THIS archetype much more than the Tyrannical Father archetype.
Basic Hegelian dialectics, Yin-Yang duality, etc. I love Jung. JayPee is smart but doesn't compare, Jung has a more balanced view of the sexes.
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The quoted bit in the first article is from the earlier spliced and edited VICE interview, there is also a version they released later that was less edited. Here's a version that puts both side by side.
The topic is metoo and that part of it is "trial by public opinion". Peterson makes the argument that "we don't have any conversation about the other side of the coin" (women's role in being victims of workplace harassment).
In what way is it sexist to want to look at both men and women's role? What is icky and unfair about the pre-brain damaged prof saying that he thinks it's fine women wear make up in the workplace but it's worth having a conversation about it?
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It's also another good closet tankie moment, btw, as he quickly offers the maoist solution (putting men and women in suits)
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I don't see how you can frame the second video, the one where Peterson asks how a man is supposed to deal with a crazy woman as sexist unless you take the view that recognizing any difference between men and women is sexist.
Is it because he delineates a difference? Would it be less sexist of him if he was as willing to hit a woman as he says he would be willing to hit a man? Is it sexist of him to suggest that besides crazy men there also exist crazy women? What's the sexist part?
The third video is just commentary about the first video again, so it's just about those two moments.
Please stop putting me in a position where I feel the need to defend the loony professor, because you trusted some random news article or youtube commentary. There's so much fertile ground to make fun of him. Try to focus on the things he actually said and did.
Life protip.
Anyone that frequently uses the phrase "to be completely honest", is probably a frequent liar. People that make a habit out of being mostly honest don't feel the need to stress how honest they're being.
It's not a surefire sign, but it's a pretty common indicator.
Her reading that prepared statement sounds like she's being held hostage.
Her mother saying that her cancer and her complications each were very rare. I think the amount of rare diseases and complications to hit this family are getting out of bounds from the fantastical to the astronomically fantastical.
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By the way guys in the original script the daughter admits that she was the one that made him go to russia
"He’s alive because I know how to research, because my husband negotiates extremely well and speaks Russian, because my family was willing to trust us and take a huge and terrifying risk, "
"He’s alive because I know how to research, because my husband negotiates extremely well and speaks Russian, because my family was willing to trust us and take a huge and terrifying risk, "
Time to label whatever I say "autistic" or "dumb". You don't even have the fucking social skills to choose anything novel.
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jordan peterson secret white nationalist and nigger hater so based imo
Exactly.
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Ah, you got upset because I asked you to define what part of what he said was sexist and racist.
Maybe one day I'll have your social skills to convey my opinion with internet stickers too when I get angry.
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