💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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lowkey said:
Oh please. Ever read what Louis CK really did? He asked women if he could masturbate in front of them. And then if they didn't refuse, he did. And maybe one was an employee. Something like that should be fined, sure, not have their cuck career of whining about white privelege destroyed.
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Quote from Louis CK

At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my d--- without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your d--- isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.

Again, I don't mind Louis, nor do I think his career should be destroyed. He apologized. Rabucuck also apologized. But Peterson apears to only defend those who are anti-PC. If Rabcuck were to turn heel and be "anti-PC" and join his side I'm sure Peterson would be a lot more forgiving.

Also to the people saying this thread is getting too spergy. My dudes, you are not adding value to the thread. Look at Sargon's thread. It's a lot of discussion about his behaviour and hypocresy. I see no reason why this should be different, except that Peterson is not a total dumbass so there is room for debate at his actions.

We have in the thread lots of funny vids, a picture of troon Peterson and his daughter in underwear with his grandaughter, and Peterson crying. There is no shortage. So if you don't think it's funny to discuss Peterson and his behaviour or his hypocrisy or money and power hunger, fine; dig for funny shit and enjoy what there is, but the discussion and disagreement is an important part of this thread IMO.
 
I haven't gone deep into that Pol thing, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was something planned about JP's rise to fame. It seemed to much of a coincidence to me that this man with such an amazing skill at comforting/entrancing sad young men, would burst onto the media scene at the exact time sad young men were being inflamed over things like gamergate and Trump, all over some weird academic transgender fight that could have happened at any other time or not happened at all.

Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
Is he asking money for legal fees or something? Can you link to a video, I haven't seen this. The only thing I know he asks money is for his book, his personality test, his Patreon (or whatever these days), and exorbitant speaking fees.
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isn't he now selling expensive merchandise of things like rugs and mouse mats with that logo of his on them?
 
I dunno...

Peterson came by my town and I said WTH and went as saw him speak.

I was pretty disappointed. There were only a few unenthusiastic dangerhairs out front with posters and they were pretty much ignored.

He gave a well delivered but pretty boring speech about honestly pretty basic shit. Shit anyone with a halfway decent father should have already been taught.

The Q&A was just the local philosophy students trying to show off then it was over .

Pretty anticlimactic all in all.

I guess if you happen to be a boy with no dad his ideas are solid and will give you a good foundation for a successful life but there's nothing revolutionary here.

I honestyh don't get the big fuss.
 
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Sweet and Savoury said:
I dunno...

Peterson came by my time own and I said WTH and went as saw him speak.

I was pretty disappointed. There were only a few unenthusiastic dangerhairs out front with posters and they were pretty much ignored.

He gave a well delivered but pretty boring speech about honestly pretty basic shit. Shit anyone with a halfway decent father should have already been taught.

The Q&A was just the local philosophy students trying to show off then it was over .

Pretty anticlimactic all in all.

I guess if you happen to be a boy with no dad his ideas are solid and will give you a good foundation for a successful life but there's nothing revolutionary here.

I honehone don't get the big fuss.
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The thing is, within psychology departments, a lot of shit that is rather obvious from someone that just lives out in the real world is *gasp* confirmed by the science, and a lot of academics live in their own bubble, so "No Shit Sherlock" facts from a psychology professor like Peterson on how to live your life is not surprising. I wonder how much of that is the case here. Actually, that's a lot of academia, to be honest. I don't think Peterson is straying too far from his home turf in this regard--and that's less a defense of Peterson from me than an attack on academia, whose prestige is way overblown. This is even most obvious in sociology classes, even higher-level ones; anyone who has graduated from college probably knows what I'm talking about--entire classes where you could have just taken the final test on the first day and passed it. The "how to live your life" sector of psychology isn't really that different.

I'm definitely not disagreeing with the dad aspect at all though. A lot of the problem is that society is a wreck between censorship, dangerhairs, corporate nonsense, etc, that people are looking for leaders, and no good ones are to be found. Peterson took a stand on principle and since then people have looked to him for guidance, and he's tried to provide it, but he really doesn't have much to say, at least not for people that, well, had fathers. But the problem is, I guess, a lot of people don't have great fathers, or they are too socially awkward to figure this shit out on their own.

My talk earlier about universities not censoring people was a joke, obviously. If Peterson is the most academic and brainiest thing we've got in the free speech advocate sector, then we're pretty much fucking doomed, even though he is the only person around that seems to know what to do with journalists. I'm extremely pessimistic on how everything is going to turn out.

And as for this thread, people are forgetting that kiwifarms is primarily about laughing at these people, not getting mad at them. Why get mad at Peterson?
 
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To me the whole "internet dad" thing is just one detour from the other much more interesting shit he talks about, like deviant psychology and mythology. His Bible lectures were really interesting. Although I do think at one point he sold his soul when getting actual media representation, but he seems to get in enough controversies and pickles so I don't think he's a total shill status.

But I do notice when women look up to pr idolize someone nobody says they're looking for mother figures, but a guy giving similar advice on responsibility and motivation is "talking to manchildren." Women love Ellen are they all looking for a gay mom?

This is why most of the criticism is so queer, and I mean that literally as it comes from gays and women. Its Chapo Trap House shit, Weird Twitter originated that and the "wash your penis" thing. All they have is a myriad of different ways to call a dude a loser virgin. That's why they latched onto "incel" so enthusiastically and use it for everything now.
 
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Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
And as for this thread, people are forgetting that kiwifarms is primarily about laughing at these people
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I have to agree that the thread was a whole lot funnier before you dragged us into a serious discussion about Peterson and started defending his honesty.

I guess sometimes you need to hash out some of the serious stuff to get people on the same page lorewise, but it is odd criticism, because I can't remember the last of your posts in this thread where there was even an attempt to be funny. Just sayin.

Be the change you want to see.

I've been listening to some of Peterson's podcasts and maybe I'll make a collection of some of his rambling answers that have little to do with the questions that were asked. A lot of it is too boring to be funny.
 
BurningPewter said:
I haven't gone deep into that Pol thing, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was something planned about JP's rise to fame. It seemed to much of a coincidence to me that this man with such an amazing skill at comforting/entrancing sad young men, would burst onto the media scene at the exact time sad young men were being inflamed over things like gamergate and Trump, all over some weird academic transgender fight that could have happened at any other time or not happened at all.
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It was pretty much the same as Richard Spencer, the media likes finding someone they can first label a figurehead, and then find all their skeletons to smear them and by proxy whatever movement or group the media has linked them to. It's not some sort of grand conspiracy, the media needs their villains.
 
lowkey said:
I've been listening to some of Peterson's podcasts and maybe I'll make a collection of some of his rambling answers that have little to do with the questions that were asked. A lot of it is too boring to be funny.
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So are we in agreement he isn't a lolcow? People keep giving ideas about what to post, ideas about how this thread could be made good, but nobody does it. There's mention of how he spazzes on Twitter all the time, how his daughter is weird (???) and how crazy his fans are but... Nobody ever posts anything. Nobody has screenshots. Nobody has really posted anything lolcow-tier. A few times he got into spats with Twitter people. Okay?

There's criticisms of Jordan Peterson to be sure, but half of this thread has been about how people are angry at him and hate his fans, and the other half saying how good the thread is going to be. Okay, somebody do it.
 
Rekkington said:
So are we in agreement he isn't a lolcow
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More than half of what Sargon does is also too dull to post, so no.

When I started the thread I thought it'd go into "internet famous", as I've said before. Plenty of funny stuff in the first 10 pages of this thread. People just got sidetracked.

Ha ha ha ha okay, here is a nice gem, peterson sharing his sex dreams about his grandmother....

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See? It just takes patience.
 
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Rekkington said:
So are we in agreement he isn't a lolcow? People keep giving ideas about what to post, ideas about how this thread could be made good, but nobody does it. There's mention of how he spazzes on Twitter all the time, how his daughter is weird (???) and how crazy his fans are but... Nobody ever posts anything. Nobody has screenshots. Nobody has really posted anything lolcow-tier. A few times he got into spats with Twitter people. Okay?

There's criticisms of Jordan Peterson to be sure, but half of this thread has been about how people are angry at him and hate his fans, and the other half saying how good the thread is going to be. Okay, somebody do it.
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Exactly why do you invite your daughter to speak of anecdotes on a podcast anyway?
 
Durable Mike Malloy said:
Albeit Peterson's academic work is substantially distinct from his pop culture presence. The former is just not very interesting to readers of science reporting - we have metrics that indicate what kinds of articles people read and share, and this just ain't it - and his high impact peer-reviewed work is increasingly retrospective. The latter is not in the wheelhouse of science journalists.

Whom would you like to see interview him, then, and on what topics?
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i liked camille paglia interview. he did not interrupt her and his respect was evident. she's very pointed about evolution of social feminism. would enjoy seeing him talk to other 'feminist survivors' who were there at the start & can tell us how a fairly decent concept eventually got all fucked up.

that interview with the smug asshole on vice, when he said that about makeup? jfc. feminists used to say makeup was bullshit & everybody's forgot that now. 2nd wave was not 3rd wave which took me forever to learn (listen to paglia video). 2nd wavers asked about makeup in the workplace too. i 'd like an airing of such things : why would women soldiers or refridge-repairers or cab drivers, wear makeup? excellent question. it pissed me off that they went crazy on him over it. he never pushes on and defends his questions either, which he ought to do : " excuse me but gloria steinem and those bitches asked the same thing."

so from MSM we got "he thinks women shouldn't wear makeup because its too alluring! gahhhhhhh!" no he asked if women are equal, wearing equal uniforms with men, why this one big difference and what is the purpose of it? can non trans male soldiers wear makeup? no.

i never heard another prof-type say something like that & found it intriguing enough to listen to some of his videos. i approve of his tastes also. i like R crumb, dostoyevsky, early tom wolfe.

his food obsession is crazy. sick of hearing keto bullshit from John Galt wannabes. its worst/most predictable thing about him.
 
GenderCop said:
his food obsession is crazy. sick of hearing keto bullshit from John Galt wannabes. its worst/most predictable thing about him.
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He seems to be pretty hesitant to talk about it too, I remember on Joe Rogan when it came up he was really saying it was just something he was doing and not saying it was a recommendation. I've seen some people say he might have like a worm or something that might be causing this shit, which would be gross and hilarious.
But that's where his weird ass daughter comes into play. How she managed to get on JRE is incredible to me, but she's very clearly kooky on social media and is, in fact, telling everyone to eat raw beef all the time or some shit. And then taking loads of videos in her underwear. I really don't get it.

That's gotta be hard though, having a weird adult kid who is getting "famous" on their own and you just gotta deal with it.
 
lowkey said:
Ha ha ha ha okay, here is a nice gem, peterson sharing his sex dreams about his grandmother....

See? It just takes patience.
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JESUS. Great find man. Great find.

NOW LET THAT BE A LESSON! Peterson's daughter might be insane but we know now who she inherited the trait from.
 
lowkey said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pBbvehbomrY
I'll just leave this here.
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Gay ass seriouspost:

A lot of people were getting pissed off at this and I'm not sure why, he just made the argument climate change will not bring people together. Because it isn't currently, and there's no reason to believe it will soon. If an alien invasion showed up tomorrow I guarantee it wouldn't unite *most* of the world either. The industrialization of Africa by outside interests will not be a green revolution, and just pretending we can throw money at them to coerce them into doing that is naive.

And I think it's true that if you don't actually have a proper course charted, you're just inventing punishments. That's what we are dealing with in Canada right now with a very aggressive proposed carbon tax. Canada's carbon footprint is globally negligable, but because we want to be so progressive and woke we want to lead the charge on it, and the only thing we can come up with is more taxes. But that can't just be it.

That seemed to be the thrust of the response, anyway. And then people are just angry because they have faith the planet can just work together to stop this threat. That utopian response exists in the head of the Bill Nyes of the world because they think, deep down, all our differences and cultural goals and value systems are frivolous. I think in times of chaos those differences maximize. If we're in a climate refugee situation (which we are kind-of seeing now) it's not going to be the middle of the movie's third act where we realize we're all the same. It's just going to be war.
 
The left has banked their entire future on a green and gay multicultural socialist utopia. Thinking that the outcome is anything else gets them all huffy even though the odds of them achieving their goal is 1 in 100 at best.
 
Rekkington said:
And I think it's true that if you don't actually have a proper course charted, you're just inventing punishments. That's what we are dealing with in Canada right now with a very aggressive proposed carbon tax. Canada's carbon footprint is globally negligable, but because we want to be so progressive and woke we want to lead the charge on it, and the only thing we can come up with is more taxes. But that can't just be it.
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Doing stuff just to do it is obviously not smartest thing around, but while listening to him I got the feeling that he was advocating for "it is too complex, we can't solve it so we shouldn't try" position. And well, same could be said for most of today's problems. For example, we still haven't cured cancer despite investing fuckton of money and human hours into it. For all we know we might never be able to fully cure cancer, but progress has been made in detection, treatment and awareness. So you know, I don't see anything wrong in trying to reduce pollution even if it is non-solvable situation in the end.

Biggest problem with this situation is that certain political groups have taken "ownership" of this issue when it should be apolitical cause. Worst part of that ownership is that you either accept every single talking point of theirs or you are anti-environment. Imagine if the cancer research became part of the platform for the right, while the left claimed that cancer is natural and we should just get used to it? Sounds completely insane, but I think thats what environment protection is turning into. And well, it was natural for me to hear that Peterson is "sceptical" of the issue, because he (despite what he might claim) is on the right.
 
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