💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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I'm not on anyone's side though and with all the shit that's been going on in the IF threads and stuff, I'm following my gut and not trusting anyone in this sphere.

First of all, she didn't stand in front of a tank in a square, got thrown acid in the face or got clubbed for her opinions. She got said some pretty tame stuff from a fat, most probably literal cuck, pajeet professor. And now she wants millions? (3.6 to be exact) Let me just throw the suspicion she may want a little more than free speech.

She got threatened with getting fired from showing off a point of view in a public university that her professors didn't agree with politically.

Her wanting millions is due to claims of retaliation against her by the department. I can't verify if those are true or not--that will be determined by the courts, and regardless of the truth he would probably lose due to the political leanings of Canadian courts--but the second this came out I knew her career are Wilford-Laurier was going to come to an end because they were going to sabotage her or freeze her out.

The threats against her were not tame. They were trying to coerce 1) her opinion 2) what she taught and 3) were threatening her with disciplinary action. It's already been demonstrated at the little "hearing" or whatever you want to call it did not even adhere to Wilford-Laurier's rules, or at least was not an official one (even though they had someone from the relevant department act like it was, they were trying to avoid getting a light shone on them in the first place).

It's what these people do.

:autism: analogy, but... these people are the dirty HR-department types that are Lawful Evil on the D&D morality scale.

Second, it would not be unreasonable to think she had this all plan as a way to be famous herself. Perhaps having graduated from highschool (i.e. not being Kraut) She has a little more brains to scheme. And the being "red pilled" story... meh... either she was completely blind to the political sphere (idiotic) or she was doing it deliberately to craft an image.

Can't comment on the redpilled story, but in her shoes I would have recorded them with the exact same reason she claimed.

Third, let's say she was an honest woman "who was at the wrong place, wrong time." (and now stands to gain money) still... she was pretty quick to release into the world the recordings. She didn't seek higher admin support, or contact people in her close sphere to fight.

Okay, now you got to be trolling. Higher administration would definitely not have supported her, and they would have tried to keep this swept under the rug, possibly with further threats against her. The ONLY language these people speak is PR. Again, I would have done EXACTLY the same thing in her shoes, and I applauded what she did from the very beginning. These people were actively trying to stack the deck against her, and she masterfully turned the tables on them.

You really think she showed Jordan Peterson videos for a relevant class discussion as some sinister scheme to get fame and money out of the college? Come on man. She probably had some idea she might get in trouble due to how horribly, terribly politically biased university departments are, but I say, good on her for not backing down. I've been through university. I kept my head down and got my degree, and believe me, I've got a lot to say about things they teach in certain departments, especially in Black Studies (Mister Metokur's videos were right on the money!) and the only reason I didn't say anything is because I was too big of a pussy to.

Someone ought to stand up to these fucknuts. I'm very glad she recorded them, these people hide behind their little secret committees and private little kangaroo court witch trials. Recording them and revealing what they're doing and getting them bad press is literally the only language they speak.

You know Alinsky and Rules for Radicals? Yeah, yeah, I know every leftwinger hasn't read that book, despite what Peterson and Sargon, etc, think. I'm sure you agree with that. But even if Rules for Radicals is not really as influential as people are claiming, it does highlight how these people think. These people are awful. You can't let them hide behind their institutional power and arcane rules the way they do. In universities, and elsewhere, these people are literally the status quo. Rules for Radicals provides a great insight into the kind of thinking and internal justifications these people have for their actions.

Perhaps you could say, she "knew" about all of it being corrupt... but then why did she risk her career showing Jordan Peterson if she was "just a normal professor", when she knew she'd get heat for it? Just throwing thoughts in here.

She showed Jordan Peterson in context as part of a for/against context involving the grammatical usage of gendered pronouns, specifically. Why Peterson? Because he's the only famous person, especially in Canada, to speak on the issue. I believe she showed a video of the opposite side, as well.

You keep focusing on how she shouldn't have risked her career when the only reason we even have a post-enlightenment world (no hyperbole here) is that people were daring to say things that could have gotten them killed. Some times people just hate the censorious, assholish nature of the establishment and want to rebel, dude. That's what motivates Peterson on the C-16 pronoun issue. Telling authority "no, fuck off." I think that's righteous.

And to repeat myself, I'm following my gut and not trusting anyone in this sphere, espcially if there is a huge monetary incentive for having their current political opinions.

Be careful being too skeptical on that front. You have to look at people's messages over a period of time and their consistency. These people aren't suddenly jumping on the Trump train or doing 180s in their belief systems like others are. Peterson hasn't been afraid to say things that have made the alt right and others hate him, and I'd argue that being an edgy atheist is more profitable than being a milquetoast anti-postmodern postmodernist theologian, as an edgy atheist myself.

I think we should generally grant people as being sincere if their perspective has been consistent and coherent for awhile and don't exhibit traits of sociopathy.. Anita Sarkeesian believes what she says, even if she is massively intellectually dishonest in her arguments thinking she's doing it for the greater good; Ben Shapiro is honest and doesn't hop on bandwagons even if the thought of Israel makes him ejaculate, Peterson has been focusing on authoritarianism for a long time now, and people like Lindsey Shepard are moderate liberals that don't like the direction the left is going. Just because they've made a name for themselves because they challenged opportunity doesn't mean dollar signs were in their eyes. Maybe they leverage their fame to make some shekels after the fact because everyone needs to eat, but there's more risk than reward in it, and I think the more immediate motivation is our internal sense of justice in the face of retards bullying us.

And to add to that, Lindsey Shepard and her attorneys don't expect to win a million bucks. It's like a legal highballing, hoping they'll try to settle for less. I think Lindsay probably does have a case, as on the surface of it I know for a fact these people try to sabotage and ruin carreers, but I can't say definitively as I haven't read any updates on it for a long time.

Now, there are individuals whose motives we should consistently doubt. Milo Yiannopolous, Candace Owens ESPECIALLY, or lisping Trump train bandwagoner Mike Cernobitch, these are the kinds of people we should doubt in everything they do and say. Those people are manipulative, crazy-eyed sociopaths seeking limelight. Contrast their behavior with Peterson and Lindsay and you don't see the same persistent patterns of behavior.
 
This is absolutely one of the most cringe and reprehensible things ever. Rambunctious Hannukkah and Dimlott or whatever the fuck these idiots are named, are just continuing to DARVO and re-victimize Lindsay. It clearly doesn't matter because they keep saying and defending the awful shit they said about Peteerson privately but now in public anyway too because they actually want to hurt him and this woman.

Like, Peterson is a cow (just look at how milkable him, his book, and his fanboys are, as some atheist/skeptic youtubers called Hugo and Jake show by this playlist) but these people quite literally treat him like a genocidal mechahitler that must be stopped at all costs.

Putting aside the fact that doxing isn't inherently wrong, Peterson is to technologically incompetent and boomer to have ever doxed anybody and has absolutely no motive to do so. He seems peaceful and like one of those old normies (even though he isn't all that normal) that is frightened when the word comes up because it sounds spooky, so I'm not buying that he's "doxed" anybody at any point in time, and even if you disagree with his opinions he doesn't really harass anybody with them unlike some GG weirdos did.

Rambo-papaya and Fuckslott are malicious and definitely scared of the defamation suit. Like, pants-shitting autistic screeching tier frightened.
He hasn't doxxed anyone trannies are just paranoid and delusional. Who knew right dudes who cut off their dick and wear make up are crazy?

As far as the suit goes this is Canada, not the US, they don't have concepts of liberty or justice. He probably won't win but it doesn't matter because he's already got millions lined up for being a Mossad mouth piece.
 

TBH I'd like Lindsay to win and crush those maggots.

But you are right, I'm being too cynical/skeptical. Perhaps I would have handled it differently that Lindsay (and I've had to deal with similar coercion-threats stuff in similar enviroments) but 1) I'm not her and 2) I'm not in Canada so perhaps she's doing the right thing. :optimistic:
 
TBH I'd like Lindsay to win and crush those maggots.

But you are right, I'm being too cynical/skeptical. Perhaps I would have handled it differently that Lindsay (and I've had to deal with similar coercion-threats stuff in similar enviroments) but 1) I'm not her and 2) I'm not in Canada so perhaps she's doing the right thing. :optimistic:

In the immediate moment, handing these assholes their shit-eating grins back to them on a platter is probably the more immediate, and much more pleasurable, motivation than any thought of money.

I definitely would have done the same thing. I've been saying that people need to record this shit before she even did, and so I was relieved someone was finally smart enough to do it.

If Lindsey didn't do it, where would she be now? Probably more royally fucked than she is now, and we wouldn't know her name and nobody would know her well enough to support her. These are nasty, nasty people, lawful evil as I've said, they use and manipulate the rules and their little committees to bully people. Dealt with shit like that all my life.

The only thing I would have done differently is came forward with allegations, let them lie through their teeth, and then produce the recordings to further damage their credibility. She was a little too eager to defend herself there, but she can't be blamed.
 
She got threatened with getting fired from showing off a point of view in a public university that her professors didn't agree with politically.

Her wanting millions is due to claims of retaliation against her by the department. I can't verify if those are true or not--that will be determined by the courts, and regardless of the truth he would probably lose due to the political leanings of Canadian courts--but the second this came out I knew her career are Wilford-Laurier was going to come to an end because they were going to sabotage her or freeze her out.

The threats against her were not tame. They were trying to coerce 1) her opinion 2) what she taught and 3) were threatening her with disciplinary action. It's already been demonstrated at the little "hearing" or whatever you want to call it did not even adhere to Wilford-Laurier's rules, or at least was not an official one (even though they had someone from the relevant department act like it was, they were trying to avoid getting a light shone on them in the first place).

It's what these people do.

:autism: analogy, but... these people are the dirty HR-department types that are Lawful Evil on the D&D morality scale.



Can't comment on the redpilled story, but in her shoes I would have recorded them with the exact same reason she claimed.



Okay, now you got to be trolling. Higher administration would definitely not have supported her, and they would have tried to keep this swept under the rug, possibly with further threats against her. The ONLY language these people speak is PR. Again, I would have done EXACTLY the same thing in her shoes, and I applauded what she did from the very beginning. These people were actively trying to stack the deck against her, and she masterfully turned the tables on them.

You really think she showed Jordan Peterson videos for a relevant class discussion as some sinister scheme to get fame and money out of the college? Come on man. She probably had some idea she might get in trouble due to how horribly, terribly politically biased university departments are, but I say, good on her for not backing down. I've been through university. I kept my head down and got my degree, and believe me, I've got a lot to say about things they teach in certain departments, especially in Black Studies (Mister Metokur's videos were right on the money!) and the only reason I didn't say anything is because I was too big of a pussy to.

Someone ought to stand up to these fucknuts. I'm very glad she recorded them, these people hide behind their little secret committees and private little kangaroo court witch trials. Recording them and revealing what they're doing and getting them bad press is literally the only language they speak.

You know Alinsky and Rules for Radicals? Yeah, yeah, I know every leftwinger hasn't read that book, despite what Peterson and Sargon, etc, think. I'm sure you agree with that. But even if Rules for Radicals is not really as influential as people are claiming, it does highlight how these people think. These people are awful. You can't let them hide behind their institutional power and arcane rules the way they do. In universities, and elsewhere, these people are literally the status quo. Rules for Radicals provides a great insight into the kind of thinking and internal justifications these people have for their actions.



She showed Jordan Peterson in context as part of a for/against context involving the grammatical usage of gendered pronouns, specifically. Why Peterson? Because he's the only famous person, especially in Canada, to speak on the issue. I believe she showed a video of the opposite side, as well.

You keep focusing on how she shouldn't have risked her career when the only reason we even have a post-enlightenment world (no hyperbole here) is that people were daring to say things that could have gotten them killed. Some times people just hate the censorious, assholish nature of the establishment and want to rebel, dude. That's what motivates Peterson on the C-16 pronoun issue. Telling authority "no, fuck off." I think that's righteous.



Be careful being too skeptical on that front. You have to look at people's messages over a period of time and their consistency. These people aren't suddenly jumping on the Trump train or doing 180s in their belief systems like others are. Peterson hasn't been afraid to say things that have made the alt right and others hate him, and I'd argue that being an edgy atheist is more profitable than being a milquetoast anti-postmodern postmodernist theologian, as an edgy atheist myself.

I think we should generally grant people as being sincere if their perspective has been consistent and coherent for awhile and don't exhibit traits of sociopathy.. Anita Sarkeesian believes what she says, even if she is massively intellectually dishonest in her arguments thinking she's doing it for the greater good; Ben Shapiro is honest and doesn't hop on bandwagons even if the thought of Israel makes him ejaculate, Peterson has been focusing on authoritarianism for a long time now, and people like Lindsey Shepard are moderate liberals that don't like the direction the left is going. Just because they've made a name for themselves because they challenged opportunity doesn't mean dollar signs were in their eyes. Maybe they leverage their fame to make some shekels after the fact because everyone needs to eat, but there's more risk than reward in it, and I think the more immediate motivation is our internal sense of justice in the face of exceptional individuals bullying us.

And to add to that, Lindsey Shepard and her attorneys don't expect to win a million bucks. It's like a legal highballing, hoping they'll try to settle for less. I think Lindsay probably does have a case, as on the surface of it I know for a fact these people try to sabotage and ruin carreers, but I can't say definitively as I haven't read any updates on it for a long time.

Now, there are individuals whose motives we should consistently doubt. Milo Yiannopolous, Candace Owens ESPECIALLY, or lisping Trump train bandwagoner Mike Cernobitch, these are the kinds of people we should doubt in everything they do and say. Those people are manipulative, crazy-eyed sociopaths seeking limelight. Contrast their behavior with Peterson and Lindsay and you don't see the same persistent patterns of behavior.

I really don't get why you want to set up this false dichotomy of people who should be trusted to be honest and people who shouldn't.

If there weren't numerous examples of Shapiro, Sarkeesian and Peterson being dishonest, you would maybe have a point, but there are.

I think this will continue to mystify me, as you obviously think most of your posts through.

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I agree with the general tenor of the message. Even if people haven't read alinsky, they do learn the tactics from each other it seems, because it mostly describes the actions of feminist activists I know, that is a good point.
 
These aren't trannies, Canoe-playa and Dickslit or w/e are just fat cis male cucks with no integrity and think everything is Hitler.

When they say he doxed trannies, they mean that the tranny that assaulted someone as well as the one who claimed falsely that nothing happened were held to account by police. They consider Peterson responsible for this transgression against tranny's, because he is the idol they want to take down.

And these police are obviously part of the fascist patriarchy for even considering arresting a tranny.

 
I really don't get why you want to set up this false dichotomy of people who should be trusted to be honest and people who shouldn't.

If there weren't numerous examples of Shapiro, Sarkeesian and Peterson being dishonest, you would maybe have a point, but there are.

I think this will continue to mystify me, as you obviously think most of your posts through.

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I agree with the general tenor of the message. Even if people haven't read alinsky, they do learn the tactics from each other it seems, because it mostly describes the actions of feminist activists I know, that is a good point.

Sarkeesian isn't dishonest, I think she just does lazy research and comes to shitty conclusions based on lack of information. Shapiro has strong beliefs that will color his interpretation of events, but I don't think he's trying to lie, just misinformed when talking about stuff he has less understanding of. Peterson, I would argue, is also in the category of not quite as informed when he talks about philosophy. So attributing lack of information as outright malicious lying in these people seems to be a stretch.
 
Upon reflection and many thunkful posts here i'd like to extend upon my initial points.

Bill C-16 affected Lindsay in a tangential way, what I mean by that is that I believe if it wasn't this bill it would of simply been another appeal to authority. On the recording you can hear a fossil fuel argument essentially implying that Lindsay is uneducated on trans issues and her choices are equatable to those who deny climate change or damage caused by fracking.

I do believe asking for 3.6 million is absurdly egotistical for someone who to date is known for a few cultish anti-sjw videos that if you have seen her YouTube channel you know are not particularly well put together and honestly feel like a female version of Sargoy of Cukkad which is not something you want to be.

Anyway this is going to sound hyprocritical because it is but I hope she does win this lawsuit because it will help set a precedent that academics can't hide behind all the new layers of bureacracy that this current political paradigm allows.
 
female version of Sargoy of Cukkad which is not something you want to be.

Honestly, doing that work would pay better with boobs than with moobs.

Sarkeesian isn't dishonest

Except when she lies about her history of playing videogames, the amount and type of harassment she received and I'm probably forgetting a lot.

I'm starting to see why people can make so much money off of paypigs. Sorry to be so blunt, some people will really believe anybody to be honest.
 
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Honestly, doing that work would pay better with boobs than with moobs.

Up till recently Sargoy was making 12 grand a month on patreon. I'm kinda surprised Lindsay hasn't opened a patron yet I guess it's because she is hoping for that lawsuit money. The month after the lawsuit ends is when we might expect to all of a sudden see Lindsay making regular content. I think as a woman in her early 20s this is making her ego exploded. I said it before and I'll say it again keep an eye on her come 2020 things are gonna get Interesting.
 
Sarkeesian isn't dishonest, I think she just does lazy research and comes to shitty conclusions based on lack of information. Shapiro has strong beliefs that will color his interpretation of events, but I don't think he's trying to lie, just misinformed when talking about stuff he has less understanding of. Peterson, I would argue, is also in the category of not quite as informed when he talks about philosophy. So attributing lack of information as outright malicious lying in these people seems to be a stretch.

Shapiro doesn't lie, when he's wrong or says stupid shit it's because he's just biased or not as smart as he thinks he is. Peterson doesn't lie. Not knowingly.

Sarkeesian lies frequently, but the point is that she doesn't lie about her actual worldview, which is what separates her from Milo and Candace Owens who actually just believe whatever the people in the room clapping at them believe. Sarkeesian, as with almost all other social justice warriors, are extreme sophists that believe the ends always justify the means.

Back to Peterosn, he doesn't lie. He seems like a very honest man. He just has very muddled thinking and beliefs particularly in regards to religion and stuff like his babble about "meaning" and "higher-order truths."
 
Shapiro doesn't lie, when he's wrong or says stupid shit it's because he's just biased or not as smart as he thinks he is. Peterson doesn't lie. Not knowingly.

Sarkeesian lies frequently, but the point is that she doesn't lie about her actual worldview, which is what separates her from Milo and Candace Owens who actually just believe whatever the people in the room clapping at them believe. Sarkeesian, as with almost all other social justice warriors, are extreme sophists that believe the ends always justify the means.

Back to Peterosn, he doesn't lie. He seems like a very honest man. He just has very muddled thinking and beliefs particularly in regards to religion and stuff like his babble about "meaning" and "higher-order truths."

Jordan Peterson is a lying scam artist who appeals to a legion of disenfranchised neets raised by single mothers to fleece them out of their tardbux by peddling garbage self-help bullshit to them and standing in as a the surrogate father who might someday tell them he's proud of them and validate their desperately insecure lives. But his dishonesty doesn't even come close to the dishonesty of his suck-ass little neet disciples. They know how fundamentally embarrassing it is to be one of his ass-sucking cuckold fanboys, so they won't admit it, they just go around to internet forums and transparently argue "h..hey I'm not like a fan of his or anything but actually he's not that bad he's a really honest guy and maybe we should listen to him. I mean, he's not like that bitch Anita Sarkeesian amirite gamers?"

Go wash your penis.
 
Jordan Peterson is a lying scam artist who appeals to a legion of disenfranchised neets raised by single mothers to fleece them out of their tardbux by peddling garbage self-help bullshit to them and standing in as a the surrogate father who might someday tell them he's proud of them and validate their desperately insecure lives. But his dishonesty doesn't even come close to the dishonesty of his suck-ass little neet disciples. They know how fundamentally embarrassing it is to be one of his ass-sucking cuckold fanboys, so they won't admit it, they just go around to internet forums and transparently argue "h..hey I'm not like a fan of his or anything but actually he's not that bad he's a really honest guy and maybe we should listen to him. I mean, he's not like that bitch Anita Sarkeesian amirite gamers?"

Go wash your penis.

Thanks for taking time out of playing Minecraft and shoving crayons up your nose to provide this feedback, Dynastia. I'll strongly consider your well-thought-out words.
 
peterson isn't the real lolcow. that would be his fanbase (the 'lobsters') who are a million times worse. these people will do the most astounding mental gymnastics to defend their internet daddy because they can't admit when he is wrong or when he is being dishonest.
at the end of the day peterson is just a (admittedly very well educated) scam artist self-help guru. these kids honestly think he cares about them and it's kind of sad.
 
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