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In George Orwell's 1984, there was a passage that had Winston Smith in the wake of his mother's death lamenting the death of tragedy. He figured that in a world where your every movement is monitored and privacy has become dead. There can be no more intimacy and thus no more tragedy. I find that to be the most frightening prospect of 1984. Hence I feel just as strongly about individualism (maybe even more so) as JP.

But nah Jordie ... you didn't have to cry about it.
 
https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile...jordan-peterson-to-hitler-suing-whistleblower

Well just came across this and felt I might as well share it here.

WATERLOO, Ontario, January 2, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) ― The two Canadian university professors who bullied a teaching assistant to tears because she showed students a clip of a debate with Jordan Peterson have now mentioned her in a third party lawsuit.

Nathan Rambukkana and Herbert Pimlott, professors at Waterloo’s Wilfrid Laurier University, are being sued by Peterson, the University of Toronto psychology professor and author of the best-selling 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, for having defamed him.

The professors maintain, however, that their remarks about Peterson would never have become public had they not been recorded and given to the media by teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd.

In November 2017, the two men, accompanied by Adria Joel, then the university’s manager of “gendered and sexual violence prevention,” grilled Shepherd about her decision to play part of a government-funded television program featuring a debate with Peterson to students. The debate involved Peterson’s resistance to the enforced use of pronouns in vogue with transgender activists. During the disciplinary interview, which Shepherd secretly taped, the professors likened an objective presentation of the Peterson debate to objectively presenting a speech by Adolf Hitler.

In response to Shepherd’s explanation that she was presenting students with ideas that they would eventually encounter in public life and that Peterson was a “real person,” one of the professors replied:

“He is a real person, but he is a real person who has engaged in targeted behavior … or targetting of trans(sexual) students ... by doxxing them, giving out their personal information so that they will be attacked, harassed, so that death threats will find them. This is something that he has done to his own students, has done to other students. This (showing a clip of him speaking without condemnation) is basically like neutrally playing a speech by Hitler or Milo Yiannopoulos from Gamergate.”

In June 2018, Peterson filed suit against Wilfrid Laurier University, Rambukkana, Pimlott and Joel.

According to the Toronto Sun, “The statement of claim, prepared by lawyer Howard Levitt … says Peterson was falsely labeled as incompetent, sexist, misogynist and racist in a now infamous disciplinary meeting with Wilfrid Laurier University teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd.”

But the professors are arguing that if their remarks hurt Peterson, the blame must fall upon their former student.

According to the Toronto Star, the men “allege Lindsay Shepherd … had ‘power and control’ over the recording and the distribution of the conversation, and meant for the contents of the meeting to potentially become widely available and discussed. Therefore, they argue, should the court find Peterson suffered damages or injuries, those would be ‘attributable to Shepherd and her publication and dissemination’ of the recording.”
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Of course the teachers sperg about gamergate and Adolf Hitler in the same breath, but apparently the woman magically made them say that because vagina magic.
 
I forget that a lot of people are not up on this lore.

Here is the recording she made:


Hitler comment is at 9:45

She first starts sobbing somewhere at the 17:30 minute mark. I can see why.

Another fun quote at 17:30
"I don't like to call him alt-right, it gives him too much legitimancy"
 
GenderCop said:
academic professionals themselves - his equals - think they are too superior to talk to him (much less interview him) because he is sexisttransphobicxyzblahlblah so they send in (sacrifice) some dumb newbie journalist to do it.

peterson promptly eats newbie alive.

over & over & over.
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Albeit Peterson's academic work is substantially distinct from his pop culture presence. The former is just not very interesting to readers of science reporting - we have metrics that indicate what kinds of articles people read and share, and this just ain't it - and his high impact peer-reviewed work is increasingly retrospective. The latter is not in the wheelhouse of science journalists.

Whom would you like to see interview him, then, and on what topics?
 
Here is my take on JBP. He is either deranged to believe troons are trying to disrupt the order and create chaos or he saw an oppurtunity to become a cult christ like figure to traditonalists. Since bill C-16 not one person is on record as having been affected by it. So I can only conclude that either way JBP is a moron. He is objectively incorrect so I guess having an iq of 'north of 150' means nothing when you are an autist.
 
lowkey said:
Except at least lindsay shepherd that we just discussed.
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She is becoming a lolcow herself. Academia won't touxt her and she's reduced to making awful skeptic videos to appeal to her right wing audience that she pretends to be apart of. Don't even get me started on her delusions to sue the University for 1 million+ Mark my words she is gonna get a thread on her soon if she doesn't yet have one.
 
Voltaire said:
She is becoming a lolcow herself. Academia won't touxt her and she's reduced to making awful skeptic videos to appeal to her right wing audience that she pretends to be apart of. Don't even get me started on her delusions to sue the University for 1 million+ Mark my words she is gonna get a thread on her soon if she doesn't yet have one.
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ooh, tell us more.
 
GranDuke said:
I don't think it relates directly to C-16? She got shit from exceptional superiors because she used Peterson's material? Or am I missing something here?
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If you listen to the full recording, the superiors backed their words with bill C-16 and before she had released the recording, they had claimed that she broke two laws.

One of those laws, according to Rambukkana (one of the superiors who she had the talk with) she had broken Canadian Human Rights Code (after Bill C-16 changed it), because having shown the video was apparently targetted discrimination due to gender identity.

So to summarize, supposedly her showing a Peterson video about Bill C-16, broke the now passed bill-16 legislation. Whether it really broke the law is something that canadian lawyers seem to disagree on. Though for its concordance with Peterson's original claim, it certainly seemed to have vindicated him.
 
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Probably would have been better if this went to court, because now I think whole situation is vague enough that you can rationalize this thing both ways.
 
GranDuke said:
I don't think it relates directly to C-16? She got shit from exceptional superiors because she used Peterson's material? Or am I missing something here?
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She got told some shit, but I wouldn't characterize getting called out by your employers "A social justice Inquisition" as Sargon said. Even if your bosses are being dumb.

Most people I know would have either shut up and stop mentioning Peterson in lectures, or stand up for themselves by their common sense and as university teachers. Crying while secretly recording, then exposing it online and being part of a lawsuit strikes me as somewhat shady.
 
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Cinderblock said:
She got told some shit, but I wouldn't characterize getting called out by your employers "A social justice Inquisition" as Sargon said. Even if your bosses are being dumb.

Most people I know would have either shut up and stop mentioning Peterson in lectures, or stand up for themselves by their common sense and as university teachers. Crying while secretly recording, then exposing it online and being part of a lawsuit strikes me as somewhat shady.
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Recording this shit is the smartest thing she could have done and other people should have done it sooner. "Most people you know?" Who cares about what most people you know would do. What she did was literally stand up for herself. These people attempt to smear and insinuate and use the system behind closed doors to fuck with people. Recording them is literally the first thing I would have though to do, and in fact I was glad finally someone was smart enough to do it when it came out she did.

Her employers are a PUBLIC UNIVERSITY. They shouldn't get to censor based on opinion. This isn't some random corporation. You can make that case about Damore and Google, maybe, but not this one.

As for the talk whether she broke C-16, you have to realize, there is no such thing as "the law" out there in the ether. Whether someone broke the law or not is a matter of a combination of factors, e.g., what "precedent" a lawyer can think up, what the judge or jury actually personally feel about these issues, how people want to interpret the wording of the law at this point in time, etc.

The social justice people are the ones claiming that C-16 doesn't apply to when Jordan Peterson does it, in public, but in private or when they're emboldened they'll use it that way. It's like how feminists mockingly say they "don't want to take your video games away" and the second Australian feminists had power they were able to block GTA 5 from being sold. We all know feminists would ban these things the second they felt they were able to.

It's the same thing. These people are pathological liars and need to be recorded behind closed doors, because they will lie, lie, and lie some more when there's a dispute about what happens there. These are not good people and they deserve a lot more than just public humiliation.
 
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Mr Snek said:
Peterson is an interesting character, because he's a person of average intelligence who uses big words and obscure concepts to fool idiots into thinking that he's a genius and that they should give him money. Just goes to show that you don't have to know what you're talking about, you just have to sound like you do.
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So... the average college professor. ;)
 
Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
t I was glad finally someone was smart enough to do it when it came out she did.

Her employers are a PUBLIC UNIVERSITY. They shouldn't get to censor based on opinion. This isn't some random corporation. You can make that case about Damore and Google, maybe, but not this one.

It's the same thing. These people are pathological liars and need to be recorded behind closed doors, because they will lie, lie, and lie some more when there's a dispute about what happens there. These are not good people and they deserve a lot more than just public humiliation.
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I'm not on anyone's side though and with all the shit that's been going on in the IF threads and stuff, I'm following my gut and not trusting anyone in this sphere.

First of all, she didn't stand in front of a tank in a square, got thrown acid in the face or got clubbed for her opinions. She got said some pretty tame stuff from a fat, most probably literal cuck, pajeet professor. And now she wants millions? (3.6 to be exact) Let me just throw the suspicion she may want a little more than free speech.

Second, it would not be unreasonable to think she had this all plan as a way to be famous herself. Perhaps having graduated from highschool (i.e. not being Kraut) She has a little more brains to scheme. And the being "red pilled" story... meh... either she was completely blind to the political sphere (idiotic) or she was doing it deliberately to craft an image.

Third, let's say she was an honest woman "who was at the wrong place, wrong time." (and now stands to gain money) still... she was pretty quick to release into the world the recordings. She didn't seek higher admin support, or contact people in her close sphere to fight.

Perhaps you could say, she "knew" about all of it being corrupt... but then why did she risk her career showing Jordan Peterson if she was "just a normal professor", when she knew she'd get heat for it? Just throwing thoughts in here.

And to repeat myself, I'm following my gut and not trusting anyone in this sphere, espcially if there is a huge monetary incentive for having their current political opinions.
 
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Cinderblock said:
Fair enough. I'm not on anyone's side though and with all the shit that's been going on in the IF threads and stuff, I'm following my gut and not trusting anyone in this sphere.

First of all, she didn't stand in front of a tank in a square, got thrown acid in the face or got clubbed for her opinions. She got said some pretty tame stuff from a fat, most probably literal cuck, pajeet professor. And now she wants millions? (3.6 to be excact) Let me just throw the suspicion she may want a little more than free speech.

Second, it would not be unreasonable to think she had this all plan as a way to be famous herself. Perhaps having graduated from highschool (i.e. not being Kraut) She has a little more brains to scheme. And the being "red pilled" story... meh... either she was completely blind to the political sphere (idiotic) or she was doing it deliberately to craft an image.

Third, let's say she was an honest woman "who was at the wrong place, wrong time." (and now stands to gain money) still... she was pretty quick to release into the world the recordings. She didn't seek higher admin support, or contact people in her close sphere to fight.

Perhaps you could say, she "knew" about all of it being corrupt... but then why did she risk her career showing Jordan Peterson if she was "just a normal professor", when she knew she'd get heat for it? Just throwing thoughts in here.

And to repeat myself, I'm following my gut and not trusting anyone in this sphere, espcially if there is a huge monetary incentive for having their current political opinions.
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Note that she was technically a teaching assistant and according to articles her mother advised she record the meeting. I wonder if her mom advised the release...
 
Flexo said:
Note that she was technically a teaching assistant and according to articles her mother advised she record the meeting. I wonder if her mom advised the release...
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Her mom likely wanted Lindsay to finally start paying the bills and her student loans. And maybe also a mansion and paid vacations to the Bahamas. I mean 3.6 million dollars? She'd have to know that Lindsey now is UNEMPLOYABLE in academia, even if she's a healthy grown woman with good education. (that's the basis of the lawsuit, that she won't find work in academia)

What contemptuous evil must the faculty have done to her to recieve such a compensation?! Your boss is a stupid asshole and takes it out on you because he hates a youtube fad celeb?! Her life must be RUINED from that.

Null should start real talk with lawyers about getting at least 2 million off Yaniv for reparations and emotional damages from the copyright strike.

(On a serious note, thanks Flexo for the correction. I knew she was a T.A. but I sometimes use them interchangably because I called my T.A.'s professors as an inside thing. Personal quirk.)
 
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Racist Trash said:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile...jordan-peterson-to-hitler-suing-whistleblower

Well just came across this and felt I might as well share it here.
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This is absolutely one of the most cringe and reprehensible things ever. Rambunctious Hannukkah and Dimlott or whatever the fuck these idiots are named, are just continuing to DARVO and re-victimize Lindsay. It clearly doesn't matter because they keep saying and defending the awful shit they said about Peteerson privately but now in public anyway too because they actually want to hurt him and this woman.

Like, Peterson is a cow (just look at how milkable him, his book, and his fanboys are, as some atheist/skeptic youtubers called Hugo and Jake show by this playlist) but these people quite literally treat him like a genocidal mechahitler that must be stopped at all costs.

Putting aside the fact that doxing isn't inherently wrong, Peterson is to technologically incompetent and boomer to have ever doxed anybody and has absolutely no motive to do so. He seems peaceful and like one of those old normies (even though he isn't all that normal) that is frightened when the word comes up because it sounds spooky, so I'm not buying that he's "doxed" anybody at any point in time, and even if you disagree with his opinions he doesn't really harass anybody with them unlike some GG weirdos did.

Rambo-papaya and Fuckslott are malicious and definitely scared of the defamation suit. Like, pants-shitting autistic screeching tier frightened.
 
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