💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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Anonymity is the only affordable way the common man can speak out against the insanity, lies and corruption of the current world. Without it, I wouldn't be surprised if a communist style take over was that much easier.
This is what pisses me off the most.

I understand his argument against Internet Anonymity. If Anonymity was impossible and everyone actually stood up and revealed their true opinions (and it will turn out 95% of people don't like nor agree with crazy far-leftists and communists) it would have a knock-on effect psychologically and would embolden others to also speak up, turning into a grassroots movement really quick. From this perspective, anonymity is more of a hindrance than a help, because it delays the open revolt which could end this globohomo shit very fast.

In theory. This won't work. Peterson has read Dostoyevsky, he should know this. In Gulag Archipelago, he basically refutes this argument in a passage that Peterson loves to cite. "I guess we didn't love freedom enough."

In addition, he has now shown his hand. He mainly wants real ID to get introduced so he can cancel the people who say mean things about the Jews.

Fuck off, Juden Peterstein, maybe if you weren't such a whiny little bitch about Our Greatest Ally, you could have actually stayed consistent in your principles.
 
I guess brain damage from benzos turns you into the goodest of goys.
I've never understood the appeal of him to be honest
He served warmed-over and bland self help advice to young men. All the wymynysts who screeched at him nonstop gave him credibility that he subsequently squandered. To be fair I don’t think he was ready to deal with the opposition he encountered and dealt with it by popping benzos. He really only had the constitution to deal with university catladies. However, he has been proven to be yet another shyster who won’t turn down a paycheck to be a shill so he gets treated like every other grifter we make fun of who can’t walk the talk.
 
He served warmed-over and bland self help advice to young men. All the wymynysts who screeched at him nonstop gave him credibility that he subsequently squandered. To be fair I don’t think he was ready to deal with the opposition he encountered and dealt with it by popping benzos. He really only had the constitution to deal with university catladies. However, he has been proven to be yet another shyster who won’t turn down a paycheck to be a shill so he gets treated like every other grifter we make fun of who can’t walk the talk.
Funny, I was playing Deus Ex: Mankind Divided recently and that's what Talos Rucker is essentially. Even quotes Solzhenitsyn.
 
I've never understood the appeal of him to be honest
Something people don't mention is how he got insanely lucky with the youtube algorithm. He had uploaded huge lectures but also clipped it to go to the main points/best parts. He had a clips channel before it was cool. When the Canadian law drama emerged, he gained notoriety and had a clip channel which was hugely rewarded by the algorithm and has been copied since.
 
This could be a funny thread if it wasn’t for a bunch of groypers commenting on JBP apparent struggle with the “rats” and their rat desires.
You can’t stoop lower than defending Fuentes and that’s hard to argue against.

Lot of you really just taking the fun out of a funny situation.
 
I've never understood the appeal of him to be honest
I can tell you I liked his shit 7-8 years ago because the whole go on the news and get in a slapfight with a leftest schtick was very entertaining. I think that's the only reason the majority of people ever liked him to be quite honest.

I always thought his religious self-help stuff was kind of retarded, but if it helps you, it helps you, I guess.
 
There is a delicious irony in the fact that JP, who draws so much inspiration from the man who was the leading psychoanalyst of the Third Reich, is now butting heads with conspiratorial social media users who traffic in anti-semitic tropes. It is a digital representation of a disoriented and confused old man getting into a slap fight with dysfunctional young men who refuse to take responsibility for their own inadequacies. I just love it.

I can see how JP ended up advocating for that position. Previous generations of conservatives usually sought out opportunities to tie their identity to closely held and cherished beliefs because it was a sign of authenticity; the ideas themselves were too important to hold silently in your head.

In contrast, the kind of people who perceived “Jewish” influence in every corner undermining their lives don’t share that same enthusiasm for a public and civic life. To them, anonymity isn’t so much a means of protection from life ruination, but rather a blanket that conceals the fact that they don’t really lead the kind of lives that could be ruined.

I doubt JP will reason that out, he seems pretty far gone at this point.
 
He’s good when discussing psychology the problem comes when he tries to cover topics that don’t relate directly. I don’t really care about the benzos anxiety sucks and therapy only can do so much before you need a xannarooski pill or a dozen.
 
Can anyone explain
Why Dr Peterstein
Tweets
In a weird modified haiku form
Like this?
Maybe he wants people to make songs out of his tweets, with Suno. In fact, I already did.
Anyways, his recent tweets:
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Perhaps someone told him to stop embarrassing himself with histrionic tweeting.
 
There is a delicious irony in the fact that JP, who draws so much inspiration from the man who was the leading psychoanalyst of the Third Reich, is now butting heads with conspiratorial social media users who traffic in anti-semitic tropes. It is a digital representation of a disoriented and confused old man getting into a slap fight with dysfunctional young men who refuse to take responsibility for their own inadequacies. I just love it.

I can see how JP ended up advocating for that position. Previous generations of conservatives usually sought out opportunities to tie their identity to closely held and cherished beliefs because it was a sign of authenticity; the ideas themselves were too important to hold silently in your head.

In contrast, the kind of people who perceived “Jewish” influence in every corner undermining their lives don’t share that same enthusiasm for a public and civic life. To them, anonymity isn’t so much a means of protection from life ruination, but rather a blanket that conceals the fact that they don’t really lead the kind of lives that could be ruined.

I doubt JP will reason that out, he seems pretty far gone at this point.
I don't wish to sperg about anything that tangents upon "politics" in this thread, but here goes:

There's a couple of irate Zionist sand-goblins in this thread, and elsewhere on this website, who lament the fact that the Jewish narrative is being questioned. That alone should give one pause, merely on account of the existence of the so-called Schrödingers-jew. The two-facedness of the Jewish people is unfortunately real.

No one who criticizes Peterson (or very few, at least) does so from the perspective of defending cunts like Nick Fuentes. This should be obvious, and not a fact needing to be underscored.

I grew up with the usual Jewish narrative, and thought that all people who had even the slightest misgivings about Jewish people, and their culture as a whole, were patently evil. Thankfully, I grew out of this brainwashed state, and see now that Jewish influence is everywhere in the western world, and it is indeed malicious to a non-trivial degree. This does not mean that Peterson has a point whatsoever, however. The fact that the odd skinhead actually exist does not mean that Jordan Peterson isn't a disgusting grifter and a pathetic boomer the likes of which are rarely seen. The way he and his misbegotten daughter goes to bat for the tiny-hat-club on social media is all you need to know that these people are either disingenuous and/or malicious.

People are noticing the patterns emerging in Current Year, and I dare say it's a good thing, no matter the idiocy of people like Nick Fuentes. Jewish influence is not necessarily "responsible" for any man's misfortunes, but they most certainly are a menace at large. The fact that Peterson shits himself upon noticing this sentiment in the broader public is telling of his base mentality. He's a grifter, and his disgusting whore of a daughter is everything that his supposedly "Christian" values oppose. His astounding failure in raising Mikhaila as a responsible, rational adult, and his own incredible failure of living up to his espoused standards, is all one need to know about this mess and failure of a man.

Some years ago, many people questioned the "wisdom", such as it is, of Peterson. After all, how profound a message is "clean your room", really? At the time, I thought that this was needless nitpicking by simple detractors, but as time has shown, the people who called Peterson out on this were indeed wholly correct: he's a bumbling academic, at best. The notion that Peterson is an "intellectual", as he was often touted as being back in circa 2016, is absolutely ridiculous. He's a disgusting charlatan and histrionic mess, and I dare say the world would be better off without him sniveling and crying about every social issue at hand on social media. He's a pathetic excuse of a man, and I rejoice over the fact that more people see through him now.
 
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uhhhh, peterson?
Archive of the article linked: https://archive.is/Horqn (archived 1 year ago)
Fun fact: in the archive, there is a comments section. In the current version of the link, there is none, at least on my end.
Content:
The players of identity politics on the far right continue ever-so-pathologically to beat the anti-Semitic drum, pointing to the over-representation of Jews in positions of authority, competence and influence (including revolutionary movements). I’m called upon–sometimes publicly, sometimes on social media platforms–to comment on such matters, and criticized when I hesitate to do so (although God only knows why I would hesitate :)
So let’s take apart the far-right claims:
First, psychologically speaking: why do the reactionary conspiracy theorists even bother? This is a straightforward matter. If you’re misguided enough to play identity politics, whether on the left or the right, then you require a victim (in the right-wing case, European culture or some variant) and a perpetrator (Jews). Otherwise you can’t play the game (a YouTube video I made explicating the rules can be found here). Once you determine to play, however, you benefit in a number of ways. You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. Another unearned victory. You simplify your world radically, as well. All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution (see Germany, Nazi for further evidence and information).
Second, in what manner (if any) are such claims true? Well, Jews are genuinely over-represented in positions of authority, competence and influence. New York Jews, in particular, snap up a disproportionate number of Nobel prizes (see this Times of Israel article), and Jews are disproportionately eligible for admission at elite universities, where they, along with Asians, tend to be discriminated against (see this Newsweek article). It’s possible that we should be happy about this, rather than annoyed: is the fact that smart people are working hard for our mutual advancement really something to feel upset? What, exactly, is the preferable alternative? In any case, the radical/identity-politics right wingers regard such accomplishment as evidence of a conspiracy. It hardly needs to be said that although conspiracies do occasionally occur, conspiracy theories are the lowest form of intellectual enterprise. Is there another, more credible explanation? Yes. Three well-documented factors in fact appear to be at play:
a) The significantly higher than average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews (see this article in the Economist for a credible layman’s analysis; for a scientific take (one of many) see Gregory Cochran’s work: abstract and full paper). Consider that IQ is the most powerful single determinant of long-term socioeconomic success and influence (my lab has published on this issue). Consider also that the effect of a mean or average difference in IQ is dramatically increased at the tails of the distribution, so that a 10-15 point difference produces increasingly large inequalities in group representation in proportion to the degree that a given job requires higher general cognitive ability. This means that proportional Jewish over-representation increases as the demand for IQ increases. Simply put: if a very complex job or role requires an IQ of 145, three standard deviations above the mean and characteristic of less than one percent of the general population, then a group with a higher average IQ will be exceptionally over-represented in such enterprises.
b) The relationship between IQ and Big Five trait Openness to Experience. Openness to Experience is one of the five cardinal personality traits (Wikipedia will fill you in rapidly if you need more info). Openness to Experience has often been considered the reflection of general cognitive ability or intelligence in personality. It’s what you are referring to when you describe someone as thoughtful, smart, artistic or philosophical. People with high IQs tend overwhelmingly to be higher in trait Openness to Experience (particularly in the Openness to Experience aspect of Intellect (Dr. Colin DeYoung’s lab spearheaded a paper on this issue).
c) The relationship between Openness to Experience and political liberalism: Political affiliation is importantly associated with personality. Conservatives/right-wingers tend to be high in Conscientiousness (particularly in the Conscientiousness aspect of Orderliness) and low in Openness to Experience while liberals/left-wingers tend to have the reverse pattern (low Conscientiousness (particularly aspect Orderliness) and high Openness to Experience. The story is somewhat more complicated than that (which we also reviewed), but that covers the basics.
So, what’s the story? No conspiracy. Get it? No conspiracy. Jewish people are over-represented in positions of competence and authority because, as a group, they have a higher mean IQ. The effect of this group difference (approximately the difference between the typical high school student and the typical state college student) is magnified for occupations/interests that require high general cognitive ability. Equal over-representation may also occur in political movements associated with the left, because high IQ is associated with Openness to Experience, which is in turn associated with liberal/left-leaning political proclivities.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Ashkenazi Jews are over-represented in any occupations/interests for reasons other than intelligence and the associated effects of intelligence on personality and political belief. Thus, no conspiratorial claims based on ethnic identity need to be given credence.
Readers interested in such issues may also be interested in a broader recent critique of the idea of Jewish conspiracy: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy: A Critical Analysis of Kevin MacDonald’s Theory
Update April 24 2018: A recent critic attempted to take my argument apart arithmetically:
He stated: Different ethnic groups act in a nepotistic manner at differing levels. Some do so more than others.
Your argument is essentially that identity politics does matter not. But it does to Jews, who’s religion and ethnic identity are especially important to them. They even base their whole identity around their victimization in the past by gentiles (Romen Empire, Christians, the Holocaust). Yet, you’re trying to tell us those who play into identity politics are losers? That’s the first problem I’m seeing because even Jews don’t believe that.
Second, if Jews are high IQ, and that means they are more likely to be in positions of power, that would explain their prevalence. Yet, there are VASTLY more white gentiles that have equal or higher IQs than your average Jews. We can do simple math to prove this. If there are 6 million Jews in the United States with an average IQ of 115 (so 3 million are 115+) and there are 200+ million white gentiles with an average IQ of 105 IQ (so roughly 30% are 115+ IQ). So 200 million x .30 gives us 60,000,000 whites with an IQ of 115+. So, we would think, if all things being equal, then that whites would proportionally represented in positions of power commensurate with their IQ and numbers. Jews should, according to the idea that IQ leads to representation in positions of power, should be 5% or so of millionaires (3 million Jews / 60 million gentiles at 115+). But this is not the case. Jews make up a disproportionate number of millionaires and billionaires (40% according to Forbes) according to the IQ theory Jordan B. Peterson is utilizing.
What explains this? Ethnic nepotism, i.e. identity politics. Jews priviliege others Jews with access to power, money, and positions to perpetuate Jewish influence in America.
Yet, Jordan Peterson is telling us there is no idea of Jewish power in America. That’s simply not true when we all know the world runs on money, and no one knows this better than the Jews. That’s why our foreign policy has been about securing Israel’s security. That’s why our politicians get money from AIPAC. Why we send billions to Isarel every year. Why our relationship with the Muslim world has declined because of this one-sided affair.

Here’s my response:
Your cutoff for high IQ is far too low. Try 145 (the figure I cite for serious intellectual advantage) and see how that works. That’s three standard deviations above the general population of mean of 100, not the 115 (one standard deviation) you used. One standard deviation above the average is helpful — it puts you in college — but it’s nothing compared to three standard deviations (in part because of the operation of the Pareto principle).
Three standard deviations advantage for the general population puts an individual at 99.9%. That’s .001 of the population, so .001 X 200,000,000 (using your figures) = 200,000 “white gentiles” with an IQ of 145 or more.
Two standard deviations advantage for the Jewish population (with an estimated mean IQ of 115) means an IQ above 97.7% of the Jewish population. That’s .023 of the population, so .023 X 6.000,000 = 138,000
138,000/(200,000+138,000) = 138,000/338,000 = 40.8% of the 145+ IQ population is Jewish. And you said “40% of millionaires and billionaires are Jewish.”
Isn’t it something how those figures dovetail?
 
He’s gone from someone who provided credibility by association to the Fuentes zone of being a retarded clown who undermines any idea he’s associated with, even if he’s objectively correct. For example, I remember hearing him cry about communist Yugoslavia a while back. While Tito’s regime was obviously indefensible, I couldn’t help but feel a small seed of doubt form after hearing his faggy whining about it.
The fact that Peterson shits himself upon noticing this sentiment
He’s not doing the heebs any favors. Instead of actually defending them with logical arguments, he has Trigglypuff-esque screaming meltdowns which only make people want to dig deeper and push harder on the JQ. He’s become the triggered SJW he used to mock.
To them, anonymity isn’t so much a means of protection from life ruination, but rather a blanket that conceals the fact that they don’t really lead the kind of lives that could be ruined
Yeah, and those damn Kiwi Farmers too. Everybody knows they’re only anonymous to hide how they’re a bunch of A-logs no better than CWC.
 
It's not even worth arguing with him about Jews. Just pointing out the fact he has double standards causes him to become apoplectic and start belting out haikus or fruity verbose insults. It's easier to just call him Juden Peterstein and get the same unhinged response along the lines of, "PERFIDY! I'll suffer not this calumny a moment longer! I demand you discard thine cloak of anonymity and face me at once, thou odious blackguard! I demand satisfaction!"
 
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