💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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Weeb_Killer said:
It is special to people who haven't read any philosophy and have been raised purely on pop culture and video games. As goofy as he can be, peterson is a force for good in the world overall and doesn't deserve his lolcow status. Not over people like Sargon, Razorfist, Hasan and the jew from h3h3, that's for damn sure.
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He invalidated his own words and philosophy by getting hooked on benzos and trying to come off them the craziest way possible.
 
Boris Blank's glass eye said:
He invalidated his own words and philosophy by getting hooked on benzos and trying to come off them the craziest way possible.
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That's what happens when you hire someone else to clean your room for you.

But the fucker doesn't even realize that what he tells others & what he does contradicts each other. According to him women are "dragons of chaos" while he is destroying his own health by doing absolutely r.etarded bullshit. It's like dick owners are "dragons of chaos" too and he himself is one of them.
 
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Let's not pretend Peterson actually cleans his room. It's obvious his wife does all the chores around the house. But don't forget, it's women who are dragons of chaos.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
It is special to people who haven't read any philosophy and have been raised purely on pop culture and video games. As goofy as he can be, peterson is a force for good in the world overall and doesn't deserve his lolcow status. Not over people like Sargon, Razorfist, Hasan and the jew from h3h3, that's for damn sure.
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Hypocrites always deserve their lolcow status.
 
MT Foxtrot said:
Hypocrites always deserve their lolcow status.
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He never pretended to be perfect or totally infallible. If anything, he's led by example. His basic message is get your shit together, so that when tragedy and chaos hits you, you have enough character to soldier on through and make the best of it. He's proved that. It's not philosophically original, I grant you that. My point is that considering how piss poor education has become and intellectually deprived the mainstream is, his message resonates to many which is why he's a multi-millionaire and a best selling author and well, we ain't.

Other than that, I enjoyed his lecture series. He's very well read, which has lead me to being exposed to ideas and books that I would never have heard of. I never went to university, so I can see why those that have would take such things for granted.

In answer to the other replies; outside of the light-hearted jibes people take at his eccentric nature and useless thot daughter, which is needed as it's not healthy to idolise anyone, the reason over-exceptional users on here are so passionately against him is simply down to jealously. You all think you're the smartest cunt in the room, and struggle to understand why someone like Peterson is considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the foremost intellectuals of our age, while your innate ramblings will forever be drowned out by the din of collective mediocrity that is the internet.

The one thing I hate most about Peterson though are his sycophant fans. I understand if you dislike him for that reason alone. They're insufferable. It's a battle between Elon Musk's fan base and his for who's the most pathetic. Elon Musk takes first prize for me, as I hate effeminate nerds with a passion and believe they're the source of all western weakness. But it's a close race.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
He never pretended to be perfect or totally infallible. If anything, he's led by example. His basic message is get your shit together, so that when tragedy and chaos hits you, you have enough character to soldier on through and make the best of it. He's proved that. It's not philosophically original, I grant you that. My point is that considering how piss poor education has become and intellectually deprived the mainstream is, his message resonates to many which is why he's a multi-millionaire and a best selling author and well, we ain't.

Other than that, I enjoyed his lecture series. He's very well read, which has lead me to being exposed to ideas and books that I would never have heard of. I never went to university, so I can see why those that have would take such things for granted.

In answer to the other replies; outside of the light-hearted jibes people take at his eccentric nature and useless thot daughter, which is needed as it's not healthy to idolise anyone, the reason over-exceptional users on here are so passionately against him is simply down to jealously. You all think you're the smartest cunt in the room, and struggle to understand why someone like Peterson is considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the foremost intellectuals of our age, while your innate ramblings will forever be drowned out by the din of collective mediocrity that is the internet.

The one thing I hate most about Peterson though are his sycophant fans. I understand if you dislike him for that reason alone. They're insufferable. It's a battle between Elon Musk's fan base and his for who's the most pathetic. Elon Musk takes first prize for me, as I hate effeminate nerds with a passion and believe they're the source of all western weakness. But it's a close race.
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Nigga he can't even follow his own fucking bullshit. "Ahh get your shit together" Ok so why didn't he? Nigga went on a fucking coma induced bender, room is a fucking mess but he tells others to clean their room. Also you can tell people things like "get your shit together" all you fucking want but there are factors outside of peoples control that can make that shit impossible. At best is feel good advice that makes you think you did something like those idiots who say shit like "I'll pray for you." Fuck prayer, fuck god, give me money to pay my fucking bills you fucking faggot.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
He never pretended to be perfect or totally infallible. If anything, he's led by example. His basic message is get your shit together, so that when tragedy and chaos hits you, you have enough character to soldier on through and make the best of it. He's proved that. It's not philosophically original, I grant you that. My point is that considering how piss poor education has become and intellectually deprived the mainstream is, his message resonates to many which is why he's a multi-millionaire and a best selling author and well, we ain't.

Other than that, I enjoyed his lecture series. He's very well read, which has lead me to being exposed to ideas and books that I would never have heard of. I never went to university, so I can see why those that have would take such things for granted.

In answer to the other replies; outside of the light-hearted jibes people take at his eccentric nature and useless thot daughter, which is needed as it's not healthy to idolise anyone, the reason over-exceptional users on here are so passionately against him is simply down to jealously. You all think you're the smartest cunt in the room, and struggle to understand why someone like Peterson is considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the foremost intellectuals of our age, while your innate ramblings will forever be drowned out by the din of collective mediocrity that is the internet.

The one thing I hate most about Peterson though are his sycophant fans. I understand if you dislike him for that reason alone. They're insufferable. It's a battle between Elon Musk's fan base and his for who's the most pathetic. Elon Musk takes first prize for me, as I hate effeminate nerds with a passion and believe they're the source of all western weakness. But it's a close race.
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Autism round 2.

"he never pretended to be infallible"
Thats not the issue. no one said he tried to be perfect, people are pointing out how fucking absurd it is to sit there and write "12 rules for life" books and to dish out criticisms of other people's lifestyles, meanwhile you're popping pills, abandoning your family because you don't have the balls to go through Rehab. Lets not understate how beyond rephrenesible fucked that is, especially when your whole gimmick is "hold your head up high, dont be a 21st century wimp" trad bullshit. Even the most ardent fucking twitter-verified doesn't shy away from being there for their family when they need it. If you as a FATHER and a HUSBAND fail to be there for your daughter and cancer-ridden wife, you're less than a man, you're less than a child, you're a fucking turd. Hows that for a moral observation?

Its like a dude who is afraid of firearms telling other people that they should buy guns to become tougher. You really do need to lead by example if you're gonna go down that route, and even then it doesnt mean you're correct, but at least you apply your own teachings with some degree of success.

"why someone like peterson is considered one of the foremost intellectuals of our age".
according to knuckle-draggers like yourself whos education begins and ends with the store-brand cereal box you read every morning before public school, and whatever episode of peppa pig was on TV that day. Peterson really is the perfect intellectual for the same generation of people who think Rick & Morty is high-brow humor.
And even that is an unnecessary insult to people who don't have access to higher education. Even Tyrone in the ghetto can give a half-decent lecture on why "cleaning your room, bucko" doesn't work if you cant fucking afford a room.

"while your innate ramblings will forever be drowned out by the din of collective mediocrity that is the internet."
got news for you, fuckhead, you'll float down here too. besides, Peterson has lost his relevance, because outside of temporary spouts of popularity born from controversies he is, and always will be, a basic bitch with nothing of value to say.

I dislike Elon Musk too, but that fucker is a billionaire making his way into literal space. An independant tech giant whos companies are associated with the future of our species. Jordan Peterson is quite literally the effeminate nerd you're talking about, a scrawny bitch who cries on the regular inbetween spouting shit we've all already heard from preachy saturday morning cartoons. Imagine having optics so severely fucking skewed that the billionaire astronaut is somehow seen as the lesser when compared to some weeping pill junkie canuck whos one red steak away from croaking. dios mio.

And of course i am jealous, i wish i could become rich just by telling a gaggle of neets to get their shit in order.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
Peterson is considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the foremost intellectuals of our age
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Isn't it of some value to figure out whether something like that is "rightly" or "wrongly"? Do you really think people just criticize him and his ideas because he's famous? Is that the real virtue of Peterson, a succesful attainment of fame?

And if we ask if it is rightly or wrongly, what are the ideas that we can uniquely thank Peterson for, as an intellectual? That's not a rhetorical question.

Weeb_Killer said:
Other than that, I enjoyed his lecture series. He's very well read, which has lead me to being exposed to ideas and books that I would never have heard of. I never went to university, so I can see why those that have would take such things for granted.
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There are a lot of lectures on a lot of subjects that are accessible for free or almost free online, and have been for some time. I remember listening to lectures on interesting subjects in 2008, so it's not some new thing.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
Peterson is considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the foremost intellectuals of our age
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Is he, though? As someone who works in academia in an adjacent field but outside of the States and Canada, that’s not really my perception. Things might be different in America though, based on ideological positions that have no weight where I live but that give him a bigger following among his peers on his side of the world.

I’m genuinely curious, because I perceive as extremely strange whatever has being going on in universities in the English speaking world these past ten-ish years. And I also understand 100% his decision to get away from it all. Academia is already a bloodbath when you get judged by your works and preferred methods, but being judged by what your political stances (real or perceived) are by a mass of uneducated tumblrinas and how much of a liability you become for the university as a result must be intolerable.
 
JamesFargo said:
The hot new trend is expressing opinions directly cribbed from Moldbug and maybe Hoppe, but being too embarassed to admit it publicly.
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At least Yarvin is good for ideas that most people won't hear in other places, but whenever he's pressed on certain topics, such as providing example of monarchy over other systems he usually answers that it's just an experiment that needs to be done.
 
JoJoNo said:
Is he, though? As someone who works in academia in an adjacent field but outside of the States and Canada, that’s not really my perception. Things might be different in America though, based on ideological positions that have no weight where I live but that give him a bigger following among his peers on his side of the world.

I’m genuinely curious, because I perceive as extremely strange whatever has being going on in universities in the English speaking world these past ten-ish years. And I also understand 100% his decision to get away from it all. Academia is already a bloodbath when you get judged by your works and preferred methods, but being judged by what your political stances (real or perceived) are by a mass of uneducated tumblrinas and how much of a liability you become for the university as a result must be intolerable.
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He's one of the foremost intellectuals of our age in the same way that, say, Dr. Oz is one of the foremost doctors of our age.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
He never pretended to be perfect or totally infallible. If anything, he's led by example. His basic message is get your shit together, so that when tragedy and chaos hits you, you have enough character to soldier on through and make the best of it. He's proved that. It's not philosophically original, I grant you that. My point is that considering how piss poor education has become and intellectually deprived the mainstream is, his message resonates to many which is why he's a multi-millionaire and a best selling author and well, we ain't.

Other than that, I enjoyed his lecture series. He's very well read, which has lead me to being exposed to ideas and books that I would never have heard of. I never went to university, so I can see why those that have would take such things for granted.
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What about Kingdom Hearts? Is he in Kingdom Hearts?
 
Weeb_Killer said:
Peterson is considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the foremost intellectuals of our age
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I'm going to pull a Peterson here and offer a mealy-mouthed "it depends on what you mean by. . ." response.

As an academic, Peterson is perhaps deserving of such praise, at least within his field of psychology: his academic record in terms of publications, citations (see: h-index), and number of prestigious positions held is admittedly impressive, and if this were what he was predominantly being celebrated for, I don't think anyone in their right mind would object to him being designated a "foremost intellectual".

The problem with Peterson is that he has effectively sidelined this career by becoming a lazy spokesperson for the conservative culture war griftosphere, and it is this arena in which he clearly enjoys the lion's share of his current fame and adulation. His decision to capitalize on this opportunity at the expense of his prior reputation is arguably what is most objectionable about Peterson, because for his role, it smacks of cynicism, narcissism, or worse: both.

These days, Peterson is largely burned out of academia. He doesn't publish much in academic journals anymore, and what he does publish isn't as widely cited. The trajectory of Peterson's parallel careers is basically a story of midlife crisis: he jettisoned the prestige of a respectable academic position in order to chase a less-than-prestigious fame and fortune, and increasingly, all he has to show for it is a benzo-induced mental breakdown and an attention-seeking daughter waiting in the wings.

The current esteem in which Peterson is held isn't something to be admired, but a cautionary tale of our society's intellectual vacuity.
 
Weeb_Killer said:
Elon Musk takes first prize for me, as I hate effeminate nerds with a passion and believe they're the source of all western weakness.
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Peterson is a literal embodiment of an effeminate nerd. Say whatever you want about Musk but he's incomparably more masculine than crying Kermit.
 
Musk is on troon meds finasteride for his hair loss and looks flabby and soy because of it. Clearly he'd prolly win a fight against beta Jordan Peterson but I think it's a yuge stretch to call musk masculine

Musk looks like a soy beta alien and I wud not have sex with it
marfusha said:
Peterson is a literal embodiment of an effeminate nerd. Say whatever you want about Musk but he's incomparably more masculine than crying Kermit.
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