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Hanoi Johnie The Songbird Of Forrestal Is Dead. Press F Or Dont.

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-dead-at-81-2017-12

Republican Sen. John McCain, an internationally renowned Vietnam War hero who served for 30 years in the Senate representing Arizona, died Saturday due to complications stemming from brain cancer.

His office said in a statement that his wife Cindy McCain and their family were alongside him when he died.

"At his death, he had served the United States of America faithfully for sixty years," his office said.

McCain, 81, was a part of many of the past three decades' most significant political moments. He was the 2008 Republican presidential nominee in a contest he lost to President Barack Obama. He also sought the presidency in 2000, mounting a primary campaign against President George W. Bush.

A graduate of the Naval Academy, the Arizona Republican followed both his father and grandfather, who were four-star admirals, into the US Navy, where he carried out airstrike missions.

also for those of you who dont know what he did in 'nam that made him so damn infamous well here you go.

 
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Trump: Get well soon.
McCain: *dies the next day*

Other than that, I don't know enough about the man to form an opinion on him. Condolences to his family.
 
If you're still confused as to why this guy is so reviled (particularly by the right), Razor put out a pretty good video on the subject...

 
If anyone here is old/nerdy enough to remember, McCain in 2000 was actually the neocons' first choice. Bush was not their man. Karl Rove was not part of their clique. The Weekly Standard endorsed McCain, with Bill Kristol gushing over McCain's co-sponsorship of the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998. Kristol was also a key figure in Sarah Palin's rise to the national stage. Robert Kagan and Randy Schuenemann advised McCain's campaign.
Well more evidence to me that Bill Kristol is a hack who should leave puiblic discourse 30 years ago.
 
Among these actions, McCain pushed enthusiastically for the normalization of economic relations with Vietnam. He and his cronies got rich off investments in the newly opened market. In order to do it, McCain had to shit all over the POW/MIA movement that wanted answers as to their missing fathers and sons, brothers and husbands.
Wars are fought for the rich. Without the war Vietnam became more or less who we wanted them to be by the 1990s. McCain had an almost flawless record defending the interests of veterans... that is their real interests. Securing funding for the VA.
The only time I can recall him failing was when he voted down the new GI bill. Because it was too good and he felt people would leave the service.

So there you go, war is fought for the interests of the rich by people who have no other choices. Remember that and believe it. Remember that every flag waving draft dodging chickenhawk politician knows it and believes it when they virtue signal their love of the troops and VA funding gets cut every single year. The only other congressman I know of who so consistently defended veteran interests was Bernie Sanders of all people.
 
Don't worry, he's off crashing multi-million dollar jets into the big aircraft carrier in the sky now
I highly doubt that. A way more probable outcome is John McCancer currently being literally roasted on a punji stick while orange colored demons with eccentric yellow hair taunt him 24/7 by telling him how they don't like vets that got captured.
 
Vietnam's reaction:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...-mccain/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d5696ec0f0a6

How Vietnam has reacted to the death of John McCain

August 27 at 10:51 AM

Among the tributes for the late U.S. senator John McCain, a number came from the country that, for better or worse, formed an integral part of his life story: Vietnam.

“When I learnt about his death early this morning, I feel very sad,” retired Vietnamese Col. Tran Trong Duyet was quoted as saying Sunday by Vietnam News.

During the Vietnam War, Duyet ran the Hoa Lo Prison, dubbed the “Hanoi Hilton" by American POWs. McCain, a Navy pilot, spent 5 ½ years in the prison after being shot down over Hanoi on a bombing mission in 1967.

The future senator would spend nearly half of those years in solitary confinement; the beatings he endured in the prison left him with physical problems that stayed with him for the rest of his life.


“I had a lot of time meeting him when he was kept in the prison," Duyet was quoted as saying after McCain’s death. “At that time I liked him personally for his toughness and strong stance."

Duyet also told Agence France-Presse that he admired McCain’s stubbornness and enjoyed arguing with him. “Out of working hours, we considered each other friends,” he said, adding that McCain had helped teach him English.

During a visit to Vietnam in 2000, McCain said that he could not yet forgive the guards who kept him at Hoa Lo Prison. “I still bear them ill will, not because of what they did to me, but because of what they did to some of my friends,” McCain said.

But despite this, McCain became one of the most vocal supporters of normalizing relations with the Communist-led Vietnam. In 1994, he co-sponsored a bill with then-Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) that called for ending economic sanctions against the country.

He would go on to make more than 20 visits to Vietnam in later years. During one trip in 2014, he noted that he received a warm welcome in the city where he had been held prisoner so long ago.

After McCain’s death Saturday at age 81, state-run outlets such as Vietnam News released articles that praised McCain for his work toward improving U.S.-Vietnamese relations.

On Monday, Vietnamese Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh visited the U.S. Embassy in Hanoi and offered his own tribute to the late senator, calling him a “a symbol of his generation of senators, and of the veterans of the Vietnam war” in a message in a condolence book.
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Vietnamese Ambassador to the United States Ha Kim Ngoc also praised McCain, telling Vietnam News that he could remember meeting the senator in the 1990s as he was working to improve relations with Vietnam.

“McCain deserves credit for promoting the Vietnam-U.S. relations and later, the comprehensive partnership between the two countries,” Ngoc was quoted as saying. The ambassador added that even during his illness, McCain paid attention to Vietnam-related issues.

At Hanoi’s Truc Bach Lake, a monument marks McCain’s capture there on Oct. 27, 1967. Over the past couple of days, a number of Vietnamese well-wishers and foreigners have visited the spot to pay their respects to the late senator, leaving flowers and incense at a makeshift shrine.

“Although he was once our enemy, he did a lot to help restore relations between the U.S. and Vietnam,” 60-year-old Hoang Manh Cuong told Bloomberg News. “That helped open the economy and improved our lives dramatically. We owe him for that.”
 
I think the NVA fucked with his mind in capture; the USSR read the torture manual and fine tuned the brain fuckery and he was a unknowing agent of evil powers. Then when the USSR fell, he was sold to Soros.

May the traitor hang in hell. I hope he burns.

(ALso killed a very cheap program for Naval Railguns in the ninties. How many US naval officers/crew will the PLAn kill because of his shit?)
 
Yeah, I remember Sarah Palin making slightly odd comments. She never did claim to be under sniper fire that never happened though. Weird that Hillary was never lambasted on that for years and years, almost like the media has a double standard.
 
S to spit on the grave of a war profiteer. Fuck his family, too.
If in all the years of my life when I had the misfortune at looking at this beast's mouth move, I had detected even the slightest bit of shame in his words and actions, I might feel bad about spitting on his grave. His family should suffer instead of experiencing accolades. I will never honor this piece of shit, and although I do not celebrate death, I celebrate the absence of the walking excrement that was John McCain. When the next monster on this planet dies without being surrounded by family and eulogized by his entire ountry, I will have faith in justice again.

Burn in Hell, John.
 
https://www.newsweek.com/john-mccai...rats-republicans-after-his-death-poll-1100428

JOHN MCCAIN IS MORE POPULAR AMONG DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS AFTER HIS DEATH: POLL
BY JESSICA KWONG ON 8/31/18 AT 4:23 PM

Senator John McCain is more popular among Democrats than his own Republican Party after his death, a new poll shows.

The Economist/YouGov poll conducted for three days starting a day after McCain died Saturday found that 43 percent of Democrats had a very favorable opinion of McCain and 32 percent had a somewhat favorable view of him, while 20 percent of Republicans had a very favorable opinion of the senator and 32 percent thought somewhat favorably of him. Added together, 75 percent of Democrats thought favorably of McCain, versus 52 percent of Republicans.

More Republicans had a “very unfavorable” opinion of McCain than Democrats, 11 percent versus 9 percent, as well as the “somewhat unfavorable” category at 27 percent versus 16 percent.




As John McCain's body lies in state at the Arizona Capitol building today, data from the YouGov/Economist poll finds that the majority of Americans (55%) considers the late Senator a hero. 74% of Democrats feels this way, while 52% of Republicans do. http://bit.ly/2okDVyJ

McCain, who died at the age of 81, served in the Senate since 1987 and in his last term challenged fellow party members and President Donald Trump on a variety of issues. McCain cast the deciding “no” vote against repealing Obamacare last year. Trump has held a grudge against McCain for killing the conservative effort and repeatedly mocked him by reenacting his thumbs down vote.

McCain was frequently a critic of Trump on many issues. Even McCain’s choice of a Russian dissident as a pallbearer seemed to take a jab at Trump, who during a joint press conference last month failed to criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian meddling in U.S. elections.

https://sneed.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/embed-lg/public/2018/08/31/083118mccainpoll.jpgSen. John McCain (R-AZ) hold a news conference to announce the introduction of 'The Post-9/11 Troops to Teachers Enhancement Act' at the U.S. Capitol October 27, 2009 in Washington, D.C.CHIP SOMODEVILLA/GETTY IMAGES



One of McCain’s closest friends, former Vice President Joe Biden, delivered an emotional eulogy at the senator’s memorial service in Arizona on Thursday morning.

"I'm a Democrat, and I loved John McCain,” Biden said at the start of his speech.

“John's story is an American story. It's not hyperbole. It's the American story, grounded in respect and decency, basic fairness, the intolerance through the abuse of power,” Biden said.

Biden continued: “Bottom line was, I think John believed in us. I think he believed in the American people. Not just all the preambles. He believed in the American people, all 325 million of us. Even though John is no longer with us, he left us clear instructions. ‘Believe always in the promise and greatness of America because nothing is inevitable here.’”

The poll surveyed 1,500 adults for three days after McCain died and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 
i just want you to know i felt more sad about Stefán Karl Stefánsson's death than this guy's death

that says a bit
 
If in all the years of my life when I had the misfortune at looking at this beast's mouth move, I had detected even the slightest bit of shame in his words and actions, I might feel bad about spitting on his grave. His family should suffer instead of experiencing accolades. I will never honor this piece of shit, and although I do not celebrate death, I celebrate the absence of the walking excrement that was John McCain. When the next monster on this planet dies without being surrounded by family and eulogized by his entire ountry, I will have faith in justice again.

Burn in Hell, John.
I see you're totally fine with Barron Trump being in the crosshairs of those who despise Trump.
 
Another handy reminder, this 1989 article on McCain's role as one of the "Keating Five" accused of taking payoffs and intervening on behalf of Charles Keating, chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association. The Keating Five intervened in the investigation of the corruption of Lincoln Savings & Loan, which collapsed in 1989 and wiped out the life savings of 23,000 people and cost the US govt 3.2 billion. It was part of the greater Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s, driven by early 80’s deregulation which allowed several of these savings and loan associations to take greater liberties with depositors' money, sinking it into investments like risky real estate ventures and "high yield" junk bonds in an effort to reap maximum profits. Understandably, the Federal Home Loan Bank Board was worried about so much federally insured money being used in such ways and placed a cap on the amount of money S&L's were allowed to invest in such volatile ventures. An investigation into Lincoln Savings and Loan uncovered flagrant violations of these regulations, exceeding the cap limit by over $615 million. But the Keating Five came to let the FHLBB know they were requesting that the charges against Lincoln not be pursued, on the basis that the S&L was a major employer in their states. They were only intervening on behalf of a constituent, you see, and not a campaign donor wink wink and they backed off.

At the time this was written, the future was uncertain for the five but McCain was later able to skate with being reprimanded, he and John Glenn were the only senators who ran for re-election.

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five-6431838

You're John McCain, a fallen hero who wanted to become president so desperately that you sold yourself to Charlie Keating, the wealthy con man who bears such an incredible resemblance to The Joker.

Obviously, Keating thought you could make it to the White House, too. He poured $112,000 into your political campaigns. He became your friend. He threw fund raisers in your honor. He even made a sweet shopping-center investment deal for your wife, Cindy. Your father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was cut in on the deal, too.

Nothing was too good for you. Why not? Keating saw you as a prime investment that would pay off in the future.

So he flew you and your family around the country in his private jets. Time after time, he put you up for serene, private vacations at his vast, palatial spa in the Bahamas. All of this was so grand. You were protected from what Thomas Hardy refers to as "the madding crowd." It was almost as though you were already staying at a presidential retreat.

Last Sunday morning, you made it to national television again; this time on ABC's This Week With David Brinkley. You smiled at the panel with your usual studied insouciance. Sitting next to you was Senator John Glenn of Ohio. Brinkley, Sam Donaldson, and George Will were the interrogators.

It was a sobering scene. There you sat with Glenn, both sweating before the cameras, waiting to answer questions: two badly tarnished American icons.

No one forgets that Glenn was the first American astronaut to orbit the Earth. You won't let anyone forget that you were a prisoner of war. But you have played that tune too long. By now your constant reminders about your war record make you seem like a modern version of Arthur Miller's tragic failure Willy Loman.

Clearly, both you and Glenn sold your fame for Charles Keating's money.

It was a Faustian bargain. It was also a bad joke on the rest of us and a disaster for many old people who lost their life's savings to Keating.

The money was never really Keating's to give. But he never would have got his hands on it if you and the rest of the Keating Five didn't halt the government takeover for two long years while Keating's people continued their looting.

And now, the tab for the Savings and Loan heist must be paid from taxpayer pockets.
 
I like how him and McCain's daughter took some passive aggressive swipes at Donald at the funeral. Can't just bury the guy with respect and grieve in private, you gotta get that grandstanding in with all the cameras pointing at you -- never mind the literal casket right at your feet. And I take back what I said about feeling sympathy for his kids (or at least one of em') because virtue signaling over anything at a family funeral, let alone you own father's funeral, is disgusting. Meghan can go fuck herself. I didn't like the guy, but at least pretend to have some class before you put him in the ground.
 
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