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Not this time, they now make software that allows you to put Ccs or MacroVision copy protection on a DVD-R. Sorry to spoil your plans.
Reminds me of one of my random observations about intellectual property:

The amount of copy protection tech added to a product and the amount of hot air the creators spew to defend their intellectual property is inversely proportional to the quality of the work.
(In other words, only people with nothing worthwhile to contribute keep defending DRM.)

Just look at where music, ebook and video game industries are going. They already found copy protection to be largely unnecessary and harmful for consumers.
 
Reminds me of one of my random observations about intellectual property:

The amount of copy protection tech added to a product and the amount of hot air the creators spew to defend their intellectual property is inversely proportional to the quality of the work.
(In other words, only people with nothing worthwhile to contribute keep defending DRM.)

Just look at where music, ebook and video game industries are going. They already found copy protection to be largely unnecessary and harmful for consumers.

Sorry to be barrer of bad news but 99% of all VHS tapes, DVDs, Blu-Rays and what not have a built in messure of copyright protection, if no encryption code the law steps in. Sony is well aware that people self publish on DVD-R and they wouldn't have put it there if just one pirate can bring these little guys down.
 
Sorry to be barrer of bad news but 99% of all VHS tapes, DVDs, Blu-Rays and what not have a built in messure of copyright protection, if no encryption code the law steps in. Sony is well aware that people self publish on DVD-R and they wouldn't have put it there if just one pirate can bring these little guys down.
Sorry to be bearer of even worse news, but DRM is by definition snake oil.

As you so eloquently said, the copyright law also applies to videos, whether they're copy-protected or not. Sony knows that there's enough dumb people who look at feature lists and say "wow, this thing can add copy protection to my videos, I'll buy that in an instant". They're selling something that people want. Whether it actually deters piracy is another matter altogether. (Short answer: heck no, CSS copy protection has been busted for over a decade)

All DRM can do is to drive production costs higher. I weep when indie media folks are 100% convinced that copy protection stuff is the way to go - I always tell them to cut it out because it's not going to stop the piracy and it just means additional production costs. Of course, a lot of time they don't listen and a month later they keep whining that people copied the stuff anyway despite of copy protection.
 
Sorry to be bearer of even worse news, but DRM is by definition snake oil.

As you so eloquently said, the copyright law also applies to videos, whether they're copy-protected or not. Sony knows that there's enough dumb people who look at feature lists and say "wow, this thing can add copy protection to my videos, I'll buy that in an instant". They're selling something that people want. Whether it actually deters piracy is another matter altogether. (Short answer: heck no, CSS copy protection has been busted for over a decade)

All DRM can do is to drive production costs higher. I weep when indie media folks are 100% convinced that copy protection stuff is the way to go - I always tell them to cut it out because it's not going to stop the piracy and it just means additional production costs. Of course, a lot of time they don't listen and a month later they keep whining that people copied the stuff anyway despite of copy protection.

You got me all wrong, I got it for Blu-Ray 3D. Copy protection was a standard feature for this software long time ago.
 
In practise copy protection usually causes problems only for legit customers while pirates who crack the copy protection can enjoy the content without technical problems.
 
I can put my copy of Jackass the movie in my BD-RW Drive but I can't copy it. Paramount put up only a few million to make the movie which is pennies to them but a fortune to me. I know it's been pirated before because file sharing sites like Morphious and Napster where big back then plus it's only a 40mb encryption on a DVD and 128mb encryption on Blu-Ray and I don't see how it can be snake oil.

It was super easy to copy VHS tapes but more then 10 years after the advent of DVD, Hollywood is making 10 times more blockbuster movies then they where in 2001 when Jackass the Movie came out. Isn't funny how good all that so called snake oil sounds about now? Sounds like Transformers, sounds like Spider-Man sounds like Pirates of the Carribean, Twilight, Harry Potter, the Dark Knight, the Hobbit, need I say more?
 
I can put my copy of Jackass the movie in my BD-RW Drive but I can't copy it. Paramount put up only a few million to make the movie which is pennies to them but a fortune to me. I know it's been pirated before because file sharing sites like Morphious and Napster where big back then plus it's only a 40mb encryption on a DVD and 128mb encryption on Blu-Ray and I don't see how it can be snake oil.

It was super easy to copy VHS tapes but more then 10 years after the advent of DVD, Hollywood is making 10 times more blockbuster movies then they where in 2001 when Jackass the Movie came out. Isn't funny how good all that so called snake oil sounds about now? Sounds like Transformers, sounds like Spider-Man sounds like Pirates of the Carribean, Twilight, Harry Potter, the Dark Knight, the Hobbit, need I say more?


i can make you copies of all those movies and yours too for $5 a pop
 
I can put my copy of Jackass the movie in my BD-RW Drive but I can't copy it. Paramount put up only a few million to make the movie which is pennies to them but a fortune to me. I know it's been pirated before because file sharing sites like Morphious and Napster where big back then plus it's only a 40mb encryption on a DVD and 128mb encryption on Blu-Ray and I don't see how it can be snake oil.

It was super easy to copy VHS tapes but more then 10 years after the advent of DVD, Hollywood is making 10 times more blockbuster movies then they where in 2001 when Jackass the Movie came out. Isn't funny how good all that so called snake oil sounds about now? Sounds like Transformers, sounds like Spider-Man sounds like Pirates of the Carribean, Twilight, Harry Potter, the Dark Knight, the Hobbit, need I say more?

Harry Potter and Twilight are over with. They don't have anymore books.
 
Harry Potter and Twilight are over with. They don't have anymore books.

Well, technically J.K. Rowling published a few more books after the last Harry Potter book. I can't say they're as popular as her main books, but I've heard rumors of another Rowling movie. I don't think it's true, sadly.

As for Twilight, well, let's just leave it at THANK GOD they're not making more.
 
Joe, I am absolutely furious! You come to me privately to make a deal, and then post our super secret personal private Manos-a-Manos chat for all to see. This is completely unheard of. I suppose I might as well post the whole thing, so people could at least get some context.

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Sounds like Transformers, sounds like Spider-Man sounds like Pirates of the Carribean, Twilight, Harry Potter, the Dark Knight, the Hobbit, need I say more?

Yeah, yeah you do. And if, in the process, you could show at least a fleeting grasp of how to connect one idea to another in order to communicate your main subject, it'd really go a long way towards making your point.
 
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