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Well, shit. I wasn't optimistic, but at least I predicted it could've gotten pleaded down to manslaughter.

Just over a year after he plowed his vehicle into a crowd protesting a white nationalist rally, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer, James Alex Fields Jr. was convicted Friday of first-degree murder and other felonies – and now faces the possibility of life in prison.

A jury needed a little more than seven hours to convict Fields, of Maumee, Ohio, in the killing of Heyer during a “Unite the Right” rally in Virginia on Aug. 12, 2017.

He was also found guilty of five counts of aggravated malicious wounding, three counts of malicious wounding and a count of leaving the scene of an accident. Fields faces life in prison.

During closing arguments Thursday, prosecutor Nina-Alice Antony portrayed Fields as a hateful young man who idled his vehicle for more than a minute before backing up and then speeding into the crowd, killing Heyer and injuring dozens of other people.

Video from a Virginia State Police helicopter captured the incident, showing a grey muscle car as it rammed the group and then drove away.


Antony also referenced a text message sent by Fields the day before the rally after his mother told him to be careful.

In the text, accompanied by a picture of Adolf Hitler, Fields wrote: “we’re not the one (sic) who need to be careful.”

Antony also repeatedly reminded jurors about a meme Fields posted on Instagram three months before the crash. The image showed a crowd, identified as “protesters,” being rammed by a car, and depicted bodies being tossed in the air.

"What we have is a man who had a decision, and he decides to turn his Instagram post into reality," she said.

Defense attorney Denise Lunsford urged the jury to consider the chaos of the day, including the use of tear gas and a series of street fights between white nationalists, Antifa activists and counter-protesters.

Lunsford said Fields only drove into the crowd out of fear after finding himself alone and unprotected.

“Look at the circumstances as they appeared to him,” Lunsford said. “He says he felt he was in danger, there were people coming at him.”

On Thursday, she urged the jury to find Fields guilty of “no more than” the lesser charges of manslaughter in Heyer’s death and unlawful wounding for the injuries to others.

The “Unite the Right” rally was organized to protest plans to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. But white nationalists made up the bulk of the protesters who descended on Charlottesville, leading counter-demonstrators and left-leaning activists to join the fray
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AnOminous said:
What did the judge say? "Okay, jury, now it's time for you to go bring back a guilty verdict on this obviously guilty defendant?"
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https://wtop.com/virginia/2018/12/j...-scorn-after-fatal-charlottesville-car-crash/

“I’m not sure what else his intent could have been,” Charlottesville Circuit Court Judge Richard Moore said. “His explanation that he felt threatened is contrary to the evidence of the case.”
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That wasn't his call to make. The jurors are the sole "trier of fact" in a jury trial.
In other words, it's not up to the judge to determine what is "contrary to the facts" at his discretion, or speculate upon whether the defendant acted intentionally.
 
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Buggins said:
https://wtop.com/virginia/2018/12/j...-scorn-after-fatal-charlottesville-car-crash/



That wasn't his call to make. The jurors are the sole "trier of fact" in a jury trial.
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Which is why they were out of the room when he said that. It was in the context of a defense motion.

“I’m not sure what else his intent could have been by driving [into the crowd] at that speed,” Moore said while the jury was out of the courtroom.

Moore said evidence presented over the last week and testimony about how Fields idled his vehicle after backing the car away from the crowd, when he could have left the scene unimpeded, could be enough to determine his guilt.

“His explanation that he felt threatened is contrary to the evidence of the case,” Moore said.
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He had to make a factual finding for the purpose of that motion.

That is not the same as making an ultimate conclusion in front of the jury.
 
RichardMongler said:
Naturally, the guys at TRS aren't happy about this.
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"We're quickly approaching a point in history where everything we ever say can be used to paint us as dangerous and guilty and.."
*posts quote from The Unibomber Manifesto
"Anyway, like I was saying, we need to be extremely careful in the things we say and do or we're setting ourselves up."
 
Hmm. Well hopefully even though it's weird that antifa affiliated people were involved in the prosecution, justice was served. I had heard all different narratives, including antifa gun dude, and I've seen the footage after the Rodney King verdict where a random dude was dragged from his car and beaten to death, so the idea of ramming your car through a crowd due to legitimate fear for your life doesn't seem out of the question.

I wasn't willing to just take the media's word for the events here, but hopefully the trial was good enough.
 
Lol at the idea of an ANTIFA backed prosecution.

You know that nigga has probably fucked more blacks on the daily then this retard killing a fat white whale with his car.
 
I digged this thread by mentionning that article.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/charlotte...learn-hes-144743488--abc-news-topstories.html ( http://archive.fo/r67T1 )

The man convicted for ramming his car into a crowd during the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville has been sentenced to life in prison.
James Alex Fields had his sentencing hearing in federal court in Virginia, in the same town where his 2017 car ramming led to the death of a counter-protester, Heather Heyer, and injured others.
Fields, who is now 22, already pleaded guilty to 29 of 30 federal hate crimes in March. The Associated Press reports that in part of the plea deal that he reached at the time, the prospect of a death sentence was removed.
Thomas Cullen, the U.S. Attorney for the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Virginia, called the car ramming a "hate-inspired act of domestic terrorism."
He said that in addition to Heyer, the lives of those who were injured "will never be the same." Cullen said Fields "deserved to spend the rest of his life in prison."
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Ones of the lolcows of VDare, talk about Dwayne Dixon, the guy who threatened people with a gun. I guess he'll still have that generous pension once he'll retire.
https://vdare.com/articles/neither-justice-nor-mercy-for-james-fields-and-it-s-his-lawyers-fault ( http://archive.fo/JDNzx )

The heart of the defense case: Fields had been “frightened” when he drove into the crowd—and, based on the reports I read, little more. The defense simply stipulated to the prosecution’s facts. But it should have questioned or objected to every comma, period, and quotation mark.
(Many of Fields’ online defenders have cited the attack on him by racist, black, aluminum baseball-bat-wielding thugs, who destroyed his Dodge Challenger. Said defense is, however, seemingly specious, as they only attacked Fields after he had plowed into them. If he had attacked them, they were only engaged in self-defense—or vengeance. However, the video above also shows he was attacked before he accelerated).
(Granted, when UTR demonstrators defended themselves against violent assaults by the likes of Corey Long and DeAndre Harris, the whites were treated like felons, while the blacks were treated like victims. The photo of Long’s attempted mass murder was variously called “iconic” by Newsweekand “memorable” by The Grio.)

But nothing in the interim, after Fields’ earlier posting of the photo of a car ramming the crowd—a trope of which e.g., Instapundit’s Glenn Reynoldswas also guilty—connected it to his actions. He demonstrably sought to avoid such a result on the day of the rally. The Communist and anarchist rioters refused to let him avoid violence.
Likewise, when Fields spoke of Heyer’s mother, Susan Bro, as “a communist” and “the enemy,” such talk probably just reflected the facts. (Immediately after Heyer’s death, her social media history was scrubbed clean. All one can find about her on the Web are declarations of her saintliness—notwithstanding her support for the terrorist organization Black Lives Matter).
The defense team of Denise Lunsford and John Hill needed to hammer away at four issues.
  • They had to show that Fields had attempted in vain to escape from Charlottesville before encountering Heather Heyer and her thug friends.
One attempt to leave was thwarted by Antifa activist Antifa UNC professor Dwayne Dixon, who allegedly aimed a rifle at him.
A second escape route on Fields’ GPS was blocked with a police barricade.
And Fields’ last attempt resulted in his being repeatedly attacked by bludgeon-wielding Antifa thugs, just before he hit the gas. (The videos I have seen do not show Fields going into reverse or idling, and then hitting the gas, to run down Heyer.)
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Dwayne Dixon testified that he only shouted at Fields with his AR-15 rifle on his shoulder (!), when the latter approached the area Dixon was blocking, and never pointed his rifle at Fields.
However, shortly after Charlottesville, Dixon bragged to all the world on social media, in statements that he has since scrubbed, that he had aimed his loaded, deadly weapon at Fields, and forced him to turn around.

It was essential that Lunsford and Hill impeach Dixon’s testimony, calling him a liar, who either lied in his declarations on social media, or had just perjured himself in open court.
Instead, they accepted Dixon’s testimony unchallenged.
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Motherfucker literally rammed a car into 35 people and managed to kill someone. I can't believe people here are unironically defending him.

Some of y'all are just incorrigible little shits
 
If there's one thing I've learned from this whole mess, it's that a Dodge Charger is not the type of car my fat ass should dive in front of to get an insurance payout

Thank you for this lesson, James Fields. Now rot in jail you piece of shit.
 
PlasticOwls said:
Motherfucker literally rammed a car into 35 people and managed to kill someone. I can't believe people here are unironically defending him.

Some of y'all are just incorrigible little shits
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Wow, just wow. A place that greatly emphasizes freedom of expression is home to people with a diversity of opinions including controversial ones on a case singlehandedly cited as a pretext across Silicon Valley to suppress the dissident right.

Nah, you're just a cunt.

AnOminous said:
She totally just died from being fat, though, getting run over had nothing to do with it.
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I did mention that a good share of the dissident right greatly overemphasized her weight when it wasn't even relevant to the facts of the case. What mattered most is if James Fields created the conditions that led to her death even if he so much as grazed her.

Still doesn't justify the internetwide censorship of the dissident right and Die Lügenpresse uninterrupted spinning of this story.
 
If there was a shred of evidence that the act wasnt premeditated, cold blood plan of grevious harm, you'd think that'd be brought up.

From what I know, shit defense attorney noted, the only defense given was his mental illness and age. Not even looking at this politically, a nutjob who drives a car into a crowd of people with 0 warning should be thrown the book at.
 
RichardMongler said:
Wow, just wow. A place that greatly emphasizes freedom of expression is home to people with a diversity of opinions including controversial ones on a case singlehandedly cited as a pretext across Silicon Valley to suppress the dissident right.

Nah, you're just a cunt.


I did mention that a good share of the dissident right greatly overemphasized her weight when it wasn't even relevant to the facts of the case. What mattered most is if James Fields created the conditions that led to her death even if he so much as grazed her.

Still doesn't justify the internetwide censorship of the dissident right and Die Lügenpresse uninterrupted spinning of this story.
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What exactly is the "dissident right" and how exactly does it differ from the alt-right and/or just your bogstandard neonazis?
 
ProgKing of the North said:
What exactly is the "dissident right" and how exactly does it differ from the alt-right and/or just your bogstandard neonazis?
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Dissident right is an umbrella term that includes everyone from the old school Paleocons (hello, John Birch Society) to the modern alt-right. For the sake of argument, we can also include the Gadsden-style Libertarians along with White Nationalists and other likeminded people.

An incomplete list of people associated with the dissident right: Pat Buchanan, John Derbyshire, Panagiotis "Taki" Theodoracopulos, William S. Lind, David Cole, J. Philippe Rushton, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, Charles Murray, Richard Spencer, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Gavin McInnes, et cetera.

What distinguishes the edgier segment of the right-wing from the establishment, Beltway-friendly Neoconservatives or Think-Tank Libertarians that form the basis for the Republican Party are typically how they address race, the Jewish question, Israel, foreign policy, et cetera. By and large, the dissident right is non-interventionist, opposed to the State of Israel (although there are some exceptions), favor pro-white identity politics, et cetera.
 
polonium said:
Regardless of his actual guilt or innocence, the way he was found guilty is deeply troubling
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Yes the fact that these court circumstances could happen to you, in an completely unrelated case, is whats worrying.

JosephTX said:
My question is if the narrative is he did this on purpose, my question is why did he use his dream car? with clearly visible license plates registered to him, after driving 8 hours, instead of a uhaul which would've inflicted far more damage and atleast offered him time to escape.
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He's a fucking moron that's why. Sometimes I think people below certain IQ should be killed just because they can fall for such propaganda and then are stupid enough to try and actually do something.
 
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