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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/09/middleeast/jamal-khashoggi-last-words-intl/index.html

I can't breathe." These were the final words uttered by Jamal Khashoggi after he was set upon by a Saudi hit squad at the country's consulate in Istanbul, according to a source briefed on the investigation into the killing of the Washington Post columnist.

The source, who has read a translated transcript of an audio recording of Khashoggi's painful last moments, said it was clear that the killing on October 2 was no botched rendition attempt, but the execution of a premeditated plan to murder the journalist.
During the course of the gruesome scene, the source describes Khashoggi struggling against a group of people determined to kill him.
"I can't breathe," Khashoggi says.
"I can't breathe."
"I can't breathe."
The transcript notes the sounds of Khashoggi's body being dismembered by a saw, as the alleged perpetrators are advised to listen to music to block out the sound.
And, according to the source, the transcript suggests that a series of phone calls are made. Turkish officials believe the calls were placed to senior figures in Riyadh, briefing them on progress.
Some of the details in the transcript seen by CNN's source have emerged in previous reports of the recording's content. But this is the fullest account of the transcript that has so far been published.

It is likely to increase pressure on the Trump administration, which has been determined to separate Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman from the murder, and sought to frame the issue as a binary choice between supporting or cutting off a key partner in the Middle East. US President Donald Trump has been at odds with the CIA, which, sources say, has concluded bin Salman personally ordered the killing.
The revelations also threaten to undermine a key plank of an initial Saudi explanation for Khashoggi's death, that it was a rogue operation that went horribly wrong.
The original transcript of the audio was prepared by Turkish intelligence services. Turkish officials have never said how they obtained the audio. The transcript would have been translated before it was shared with other intelligence services; CNN's source read a translated version and has been briefed on the investigation.
The office of one US senator, who has received a briefing on the investigation by CIA Director Gina Haspel, told CNN that the source's recollections of the transcript are "consistent" with that briefing.
CNN asked Saudi officials to comment on the contents of the transcript as described by the source, and to provide comment from those named in it. A Saudi official said: "The relevant Saudi security officials have reviewed the transcript and tape materials through Turkish security channels and nowhere in them is there any reference or indication of a call being made."
"If there is additional information Turkish authorities have that we are unaware of, we would welcome it being officially handed over to us for review, which we have requested numerous times and are still requesting. And, up until now; we have not received anything." The official did not address the transcript's characterization of the scene inside the Saudi consulate, nor Khashoggi's last words.

The transcript begins at the moment Khashoggi enters the Saudi consulate in a quiet residential district of Istanbul at lunchtime on October 2.
Khashoggi thought he had made a routine appointment to pick up papers that would allow him to marry his Turkish fiancée, Hatice Cengiz. But, according to the source, it dawns upon Khashoggi almost immediately that things are not going to plan, when he recognizes one of the men who meets him.
He asks the man what he is doing there.
According to CNN's source, a voice identified in the transcript as Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, a former Saudi diplomat and intelligence official working for bin Salman, and known to Khashoggi from their time together at the Saudi Embassy in London, addresses him.
"You are coming back," the man says.
"You can't do that," Khashoggi replies. "People are waiting outside."
(Khashoggi's fiancée accompanied him as far as the consulate, with instructions to call associates if he did not emerge.)
Without any further dialogue, according to the source, the transcript indicates that several people set upon Khashoggi.
Noises follow, and very quickly Khashoggi is fighting for air.

In one version of the evolving explanations for his death, Saudi officials suggested Khashoggi was accidentally choked. But according to the transcript, CNN's source says, the journalist's voice can be heard above the noise, repeatedly claiming he could not breathe.
Despite his desperate pleas, the last discernible words the transcript records for Khashoggi are:
"I can't breathe."

The transcript notes more noises, and several more voices.
One of those voices is identified on the transcript by Turkish authorities as belonging to Dr. Salah Muhammad al-Tubaiqi, the head of forensic medicine at Saudi Arabia's Interior Ministry, the source says.
Aside from Khashoggi and Mutreb, he is the only other voice identified by name on the transcript.
As the transcript continues, it is clear Khashoggi is not yet dead.
The transcript notes the noises that can be heard on the tape, almost in the manner that subtitles describe moments in movies where there is no dialogue.
"Scream."
"Scream."
"Gasping."
Then, the transcript notes other descriptions.
"Saw."
"Cutting."
Tubaiqi is noted giving some advice to other people in the room, apparently to help them deal with the appalling task.
"Put your earphones in, or listen to music like me."
During the scene, the transcript notes at least three phone calls placed by Mutreb.
The transcript does not specify the moment Khashoggi dies.
According to the source, the transcript suggests Mutreb is updating someone, whom Turkish officials say was in Riyadh, with almost step-by-step details of what is taking place.
"Tell yours, the thing is done, it's done."
The word "yours" is taken by CNN's source to refer to a superior, or boss.
The transcript has been circulated to key Turkish and Saudi allies, including those in Europe, but only the United States and Saudi Arabia have received the recording itself, the source believes.
The working assumption among those allies is that Mutreb was talking to Saud al-Qahtani, bin Salman's closest aide, the source said. Saudi officials say al-Qahtani has been removed from his former position as media chief to the crown prince.
The transcript only records Mutreb's side of the conversation. Without a recording of that call, or more details of which number was called, further conclusions based on the transcript alone cannot be made.

A source close to the Saudi investigation into Khashoggi's killing told CNN that Mutreb and Tubaiqi deny making any phone calls.
CNN has previously reported how Mutreb, Tubaiqi and 13 other Saudis arrived in Istanbul by private charter jets and commercial aircraft on the day of and the days leading up to Khashoggi's murder.
Turkish surveillance video records the 15-man hit team arriving at the consulate shortly before Khashoggi, and departing a few hours later. A body double of Khashoggi dressed in Khashoggi's clothes is seen on CCTV leaving by the back door.
It is clear from the transcript of the phone conversation that the calls do not describe a terrible situation gone awry, or explain an unexpected set of circumstances, the source says. Instead, the caller appears simply to be informing someone of what is going on. Hardly, the source says, the actions of a panicked ringleader, but more the description of a situation going entirely according to plan.
The transcript is relatively short, given the time span it describes, the source told CNN. There is not much dialogue; certainly no hint of a conversation about why Khashoggi should go "back," and no suggestion either, as advanced at one point by Saudi officials, that he had been drugged by the hit team.
There is nothing in this transcript that the source could describe as a "smoking gun" -- a snippet of conversation or phone call that directly ties bin Salman to the so-called hit team, and to Khashoggi's murder.

But the lasting conclusion the source drew from the transcript is that Khashoggi's killing was a planned assassination by an organized team that carried out its job with ruthless efficiency, keeping someone in Riyadh informed at each step.
While the transcript provides no smoking gun directly tying Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to the killing, it seems to echo Sen. Lindsey Graham's sentiments after hearing the CIA's assessment of Khashoggi's killing.
Graham, who was among a group of senators to receive a classified briefing on the Khashoggi case, said earlier this week that he agreed with the conclusions of the US security services that bin Salman was implicated in the case.
"There's not a smoking gun, there's a smoking saw," he said.
 
I don't know why trump doesn't condemn the saudi prince. All those "weapon deals" mean fuck all to me
 
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You know, that snippet there is probably one of the most-important parts in yet another one of these "He said, she said, that they said that we should be mad at bin Salman" media panic-pieces where absolutely nothing of substance is really being offered by anything more than yet another fucking anonymous source. Khashoggi was intensely pro-Muslim Brotherhood and was personally involved in terrorism, why should I give a shit if he was murdered or not, or by who?
 
I still don't understand why I should care if a Mideastern "ally" that helps maintain the Petrodollar and buys a bunch of shit from us does with their journalists, especially the ones who literally follow Bin Laden around as buddies (yeah I know he was on our side for a little, but the journo was still a bit of an extremist).

I mean of all the things Saudi Arabia has done and does, this is the thing I should care about? I'm very much in favor of just making sure to squeeze a good deal out of this and letting it drop.
 
I mean of all the things Saudi Arabia has done and does, this is the thing I should care about?

It's not really much of a defense to say they're such utter shit and do so many even worse utterly shitty subhuman things that we should let this one slide. Saudi Arabia is about the most garbage country in the world and the source of most terrorism. Even if we assume this particular dude was sympathetic to terrorists, they support all the worst Islamists out there regardless.
 
I don't know why trump doesn't condemn the saudi prince. All those "weapon deals" mean fuck all to me
Condemn him for what? Likely dealing with a terrorist sympathizer with ties ranging from the Muslim Brotherhood to Iran?
 
I don't know why trump doesn't condemn the saudi prince. All those "weapon deals" mean fuck all to me
15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis. If we kept giving them weapons deals after they killed three thousand of our people, one dead journalist is nothing.
 
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You know, that snippet there is probably one of the most-important parts in yet another one of these "He said, she said, that they said that we should be mad at bin Salman" media panic-pieces where absolutely nothing of substance is really being offered by anything more than yet another fucking anonymous source. Khashoggi was intensely pro-Muslim Brotherhood and was personally involved in terrorism, why should I give a shit if he was murdered or not, or by who?
Because no country should execute someone mob style for daring to speak against government.
 
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You know, that snippet there is probably one of the most-important parts in yet another one of these "He said, she said, that they said that we should be mad at bin Salman" media panic-pieces where absolutely nothing of substance is really being offered by anything more than yet another fucking anonymous source. Khashoggi was intensely pro-Muslim Brotherhood and was personally involved in terrorism, why should I give a shit if he was murdered or not, or by who?
I still don't understand why I should care if a Mideastern "ally" that helps maintain the Petrodollar and buys a bunch of shit from us does with their journalists, especially the ones who literally follow Bin Laden around as buddies (yeah I know he was on our side for a little, but the journo was still a bit of an extremist).

I mean of all the things Saudi Arabia has done and does, this is the thing I should care about? I'm very much in favor of just making sure to squeeze a good deal out of this and letting it drop.
Because he was one of the few people capable of forming an effective political opposition to the Saudi government. He has been in and around Saudi Diplomacy for a while (including a stint in the Saudi Intelligence and Foreign Affairs Ministry), and had a long journalistic career, in which he met quite a few prominent figures of various nationalities, political colors and islamic sects. He was also one of the few Saudi opposition people who didn't go full-retard, and thus still managed to stay credible with the normies. He had what you might call a diplomatic personality, and was probably presidential material.

Trump is not ignoring this because he doesn't care or because this isn't important, Trump is ignoring this because he has already bet a lot of his political capital on the currrent Saudi King and the heir-apparent, MbS (remember, Trump's 1st foreign visit was to Saudi Arabia), and he can't afford further embarrassment from that angle, he wants to get this over with and very quickly, that's why he's avoiding listening to the tapes.

Also, there may not have been an obvious smoking gun in the recordings (we don't really know for sure), but the facts of the case clearly point to very high-level involvement, because the idiots who were sent to do this managed to implicate themselves in hilarious fashion:
  • The private plane that brought the operatives into Turkey actually came in from Saudi directly.
  • The operatives used their real passports, and they were matched to previous press photos published in Saudi News Outlets.
  • The fact that there is very few people who can actually order this thing in the 1st place.
This won't be over btw, not by a long shot, Even if Trump manages to bury it, I can totally see someone else in the post-Trump US Govt bringing this up whenever pressure is required on the Saudi Regime. It's essentially the Saudi regime's Lockerby incident.
 
I don't know why trump doesn't condemn the saudi prince. All those "weapon deals" mean fuck all to me
Trump admires autocrats. If you haven't picked up on this yet, you're a dumb motherfucker. He might not want to be one himself, but he's clearly tolerant of them.

Because no country should execute someone mob style for daring to speak against government.
This.

I mean of all the things Saudi Arabia has done and does, this is the thing I should care about? I'm very much in favor of just making sure to squeeze a good deal out of this and letting it drop.
They ambushed a man, tortured him to death, and got it all on tape. I don't know why you wouldn't let that drop. It's something countries do everyday!
 
It's not really much of a defense to say they're such utter shit and do so many even worse utterly shitty subhuman things that we should let this one slide. Saudi Arabia is about the most garbage country in the world and the source of most terrorism. Even if we assume this particular dude was sympathetic to terrorists, they support all the worst Islamists out there regardless.
It's not the worst defense.
Jesus said:
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
If we're on board with the Saudis, we're on board with the Saudis; the wisdom of that is a different discussion, I think.
 
That's the way of things. Saudis act like backwards savages, we look the other way because oil, and opponents of the president criticize him for it. The only reason we're hearing endless kvetching about some nothing columnist is because the mainstream media as a whole is allied against Trump.
 
I don't know why trump doesn't condemn the saudi prince. All those "weapon deals" mean fuck all to me

Jamal wasn't American. As far as I'm concerned, this is just barbarians practicing barbarism. Shit like this is so common in Africa, Asia, the Middle East and South America it just isn't worth one's breath to condemn it.
 
That's the way of things. Saudis act like backwards savages, we look the other way because oil, and opponents of the president criticize him for it.

And then when it's a President of their own party they completely ignore the same policy because people, by and large, are too fucking dumb to actually have policy positions of their own, they just treat it all like team sports. Orange Man Bad, Nigger President Bad, whatever.

So we continue sucking Saudi cock into the foreseeable future.

They get us to think there's some actual choice, but really, we're just picking what face goes onto exactly the same substantive policies.
 
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