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Pointless Pedant said:
After the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, there was a time when not a lot was written down in Western Europe due to the turmoil of the Migration Era meaning that people had more important things to do than write books. Even then, most societies had some literate people. In the eastern Mediterranean, where Christianity had originated, though, this wasn't the case, and the eastern empire had held most of the empire's wealth even before the fall of Rome itself. The so called "dark ages" only apply to Western Europe, but it seems that these kinds of people, for all they whine about diversity, know very little about the history of other parts of the world.
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It was really only because of people from the north and east who were not a literate people and just barely found their way to the Iron Age completely displaced a people who had a functioning legal system and were very literate. When a highly literate population is displaced by a non-literate population, a "dark age" occurs (the earlier Greek Dark Age was because there were vast movements from north and east of Greece who inherited a staggered civilization after the dominant Mycenaean one just withered away. After settling they got an alphabet from the Phoenicians whom they traded with, and created a new language and because of it we have works like Homer).

In fact Italy, especially southern Italy, continued to preserve the highly advanced Roman culture through the university of Syracuse as well as the merchant towns of in Tuscany, Amalfi, Venice and later, even as far north as Genoa. There was no "dark age" in southern Italy and only a "dark age" in northern Italy due to the Lombards.

The Western Roman Empire honestly deserved to fall as it became really shitty if you were a "free" Roman Citizen. For an example, the Praefectus urbi strengthened Slave rights because they didn't want there to be revolts, but the rights of tenants were lowered, because the state needed the taxes from the landlords and by the 4th century it was actually better to be born a slave than a "free" Roman citizen who was a tenant.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
OT but the "christian dark ages" reeeing is bullshit for the exact same reason - scientific progress was being made during the "dark ages" and it was mostly driven and financed by the damn church itself.
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incorrect - scentific progress was financed by the scientists indipendently, who either were rich by family and could spend the time or by gaining money as artists, given that by the time 'intellectuals' did a bit of everything
church was partly neutral but strongly ostracized anatomy studies(because opening corpses was seen as disrespectful and satanic), astronomy (because it proved earth wasn't at the center of the universe) and medicine, since it needed anatomy studies and using certain drugs was potentially seen as witch craft
Church did not encourage learning to read; most bibles to the public were illustrated and narrated by the priests.
The only real progress of the time were in music, weapons and agriculture.
Most cultural progress came with illumination period, that encouraged atheism.
We do not need to go full on horseshoe just to make a point about islam
 
Somsnosa said:
incorrect - scentific progress was financed by the scientists indipendently, who either were rich by family and could spend the time or by gaining money as artists, given that by the time 'intellectuals' did a bit of everything
church was partly neutral but strongly ostracized anatomy studies(because opening corpses was seen as disrespectful and satanic), astronomy (because it proved earth wasn't at the center of the universe) and medicine, since it needed anatomy studies and using certain drugs was potentially seen as witch craft
Church did not encourage learning to read; most bibles to the public were illustrated and narrated by the priests.
The only real progress of the time were in music, weapons and agriculture.
Most cultural progress came with illumination period, that encouraged atheism.
We do not need to go full on horseshoe just to make a point about islam
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Mechanical clocks based on the verge escapement were invented around 1300. Eyeglasses date from the 13th century. The blast furnace came to Europe in the 15th century, though it had been in China since the 1st.

Not many technological advances happened in Europe because it was relatively poor and on the periphery of the known world, but there were still a few in the late middle ages, when fundamentalism was as strong as before, if not more so.
 
Here is some rage inducing apologism from the wikipedia talk page on the Cologne assaults and rapes. tldr listen and believe, unless it's muslim men , then perform "critical analysis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
It's 2017 and we have the hindsight for critical analysis. A greater critical eye on this article is the work of a German journalist, but I will make my contribution as Swedish. Why a critical review? I argue the following: As we all know, no one is guilty until convicted. According to this Wikipedia entry, “New Year's Eve [MASS] sexual assaults [BY XENOS] in Germany”, 2,000+ crimes were committed by 2,000+ men against 1,200+ women… I’m strongly sceptical about it.

We will begin by critically reviewing the mass sexual assaults by xenos, as the event came to be known as while circulating the world, by analysing the relevant figures: crimes, men, women.

The abstract contains no crime figure. The infobox mentions “Nearly 2,300 sexual assaults and robberies reported”. However, this figure appears to be original research. It’s unsourced, following sources don’t mention it, and the subfigures do not add up to it. The subfigures say “1,616”, “296”, “236”, “More in other cities”, and “A total of 1,950+ victims”. I will cover the subfigures one by one. The “1,616” in Cologne refers to all crime of any kind, with only 509 sex crimes. Out of the “296” in Düsseldorf, again referring to all crime, only 103 were sex crimes. The “236” in Hamburg is without any source. I didn’t further review “More in other cities” as it doesn’t present any specific total figure. Already, 2,148 crimes are only really 612 crimes. The final figure was “1,950+ victims”, the women. Again, this figure appears to be original research. Again, unsourced, following sources don’t mention it, and the sources do not add up to it. Out of the five sources given, the highest figures to appear are 1,216 victims of all crime and only 497 victims of sex crimes. Again, 1,950+ victims are only really 497 victims. Finally, we have the men. Across the entire article, 4 convictions of all crime are mentioned and zero convictions of sex crimes are mentioned. Both the 2,000+ men figure in the abstract and infobox and the 1,200+ women figure in the abstract originate with the same unverifiable source. Other sources mention at least 140 men suspect of sex crimes, but zero sex crime convictions.

I’m strongly sceptical about it. Clearly basic analysis shows 2000 crimes, 2000 men, and 1200 women are really 612 crimes, zero men (depending on how hard evidence you want), and 497 women.

Finally, I will criticize §4.2.1 “Sweden” and §4.2 “Other countries”, which appear under §4 “Similar incidents”.

In §4.2.1 “Sweden”, Kalmar, Karlstad, and Malmö appear. I will change this text and add sources to strengthen the facts: the events in Malmö and Karlstad never occurred and in Kalmar three relevant reports were apparently made, but even this is incomparable to Germany and no “Similar incident”. The exact same conclusion applies to Helsinki, appearing in §4.2, where two relevant reports were made. Also, appearing in §4.2 are Austria, Finland, and Switzerland, attributed to an Australian news source, which is clearly only a publicity piece with assorted and vague allegations, which I will delete imminently. All other above events will remain in abridged form, but only as to not be immediately added again, with fewer facts, by someone else.

However, all other events in §4.2.1 “Sweden” will be deleted. Different Swedish summer festivals in 2014, 2015, and 2016, and a Swedish sport tournament in July of 2016 appear and here the entry has transcended space and time to become wholly unrelated to “New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany”, with only the weakest connections made. We are outside the scope of the article.

Conclusively, I will attempt to correct figures appearing in the abstract, infobox, and will delete §4.2.1 “Sweden”, merging all relevant contact with §4.2. “Other countries”, which I will also modify for accuracy.

Clarification: I’m strongly sceptical about the scope of the events in the entry. After a year, I advocate anyone to critically analyse the relevant facts and the chaotic and contradictory authority and media reports shortly after New Year’s Day 2015/2016. False reports of the “rapefugee” appeared already in January 2016 and are still appearing in 2017, while zero rape convictions and not even two dozen rape reports are strengthened by this entry. It is conceivable to me that the entire event was merely an ordinary New Year’s Day. Chaotic authority and media reports, policemen speaking out of order, and fascist propaganda may have made this event into something it never really was. I’ve only analysed a fraction, yet all apparent facts have crumbled after only the weakest analysis.
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melty said:
Here is some rage inducing apologism from the wikipedia talk page on the Cologne assaults and rapes. tldr listen and believe, unless it's muslim men , then perform "critical analysis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
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This is incredible, the guy is literally saying that he's fine with thousands of innocent women and children being raped and murdered per year worldwide as long as it serves to preserve the narrative he believes in. This is literally pagan blood sacrifice shit, only the new god for sjws is political correctness.
 
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Ruin said:
This is incredible, the guy is literally saying that he's fine with thousands of innocent women and children being raped and murdered per year worldwide as long as it serves to preserve the narrative he believes in. This is literally blood sacrifice shit, only the new god for sjws is political correctness.
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Jokes on him since once they get rid of all the women, children and the elderly/weak they'll go after the cuck males. They're still dirty infidels in these beasts' eyes.
 
melty said:
Here is some rage inducing apologism from the wikipedia talk page on the Cologne assaults and rapes. tldr listen and believe, unless it's muslim men , then perform "critical analysis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
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"It is conceivable to me that the entire event was merely an ordinary New Year’s Day. Chaotic authority and media reports, policemen speaking out of order, and fascist propaganda may have made this event into something it never really was. I’ve only analysed a fraction, yet all apparent facts have crumbled after only the weakest analysis."

There are literally dozens of videos taken by private citizens that show groups of (foreign-looking) men ganging up on women and assaulting them. There are news reports that were taken after the incident that feature disheveled women talking about their ordeal. After the incident came to light, the mayor of Cologne basically told women "Yeah, stay away from Arab men."

Fuck you.
 
friedshrimp said:
Jokes on him since once they get rid of all the women, children and the elderly/weak they'll go after the cuck males. They're still dirty infidels in these beasts' eyes.
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Salafists purging heretics and heathens tend to kill men and capture women, so that's the wrong way round. I'm sure these kinds of men would just convert and collaborate if it ever came to that, though.
 
friedshrimp said:
Of course kill men that defend their homes. Enlightened chaps like Sven and John are sure more than ready to open his house and allow Achmed to rape his girlfriend in front of him.
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They might even have a fetish for it. There should be a word for people like that...
 
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I think the "Slow" sign is referring to this guy's intellect.
 
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