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I'm reading The Qu'ran, and it is very bad.

The 'god' is unmerciful, and it is said that he intentionally sealed the hearts of people so that they me be unable to have been saved.

"There will be those that pretend to be with the will of god, but act against. And god shall punish them!"

I thought that this quote was merely warning the followers of Allah that God-less elements will make themselves present within the Flock. It's not, however. Muhammad was merely speaking of pretendaby Muslims in Mecca that wished to kill him.

Muhammad were as bad as Joseph Smith, and Islam is a very perverted version of Christianity.
Allah is not God. Allah is lucifer, he even admits this a few times in the text.
 

An Iraqi couple is charged in Germany with keeping and abusing Yazidi girls as slaves​

Updated 10:57 PM GMT+11, December 30, 2024
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BERLIN (AP) — Germany’s federal prosecutor on Monday charged an Iraqi couple with enslavement, torture and war crimes, alleging they kept two young Yazidi girls as slaves and sexually and physically abused them.
The man and the woman, identified only as Twana H.S. and Asia R.A. in line with German privacy rules, were arrested in Bavaria in April.
The were members of the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria between October 2015 and December 2017, the prosecutor said in a statement. They allegedly kept a 5-year-old Yazidi girl as a slave starting in late 2015, and a 12-year-old from October 2017.
Prosecutors alleged that the man raped both girls repeatedly and that the woman prepared the room and put makeup on one of the girls.
The couple also exerted “harsh physical violence” on the girls, who were prevented from practicing their own religion and coerced into household work and childcare, prosecutors said.

The man on one occasion allegedly hit the older girl with a broomstick, the woman is accused of scalding the younger girl’s hand with hot water and both children were repeatedly forced to stand on one leg for half an hour as punishment.
Before they left Syria in November 2017, the suspects handed the girls over to other members of IS, the prosecutor’s statement said.
“All of this served the organization’s objective to destroy the Yazidi religion,” the statement said.

Muslims c=continuing to be normal. I wouldn't have thought that travelling to a civilized country would be a good idea if you had kept children as sex slaves, but the country in question was Germany, so I understand why I thought they could get away with it.
 
I don't know why I just spent two hours arguing with the Muslim, but Muslims were straight up safe with the straight face that no, they don't believe that it's okay to have sex with 6 year old when their prophet literally had sex with a 6 year old. There's something wrong with those people. Islam is a plague on society.
 
It may be argued that the world would've been a better place without Islam, but maybe those who commit atrocities for Allah would've committed them for some other reason had Islam not been around. That said there are a number of passages in the Koran which claim disbelievers will suffer a "painful doom"... and that disbelievers should be killed.
 
All the muslims I have met were upper middle class professionals and quite secular
Me too.
Sadly, those upper middle class professionals also usually had a large extended families who also came, who were more numerous than the professionals, and absolutely refused to work or integrate or really be anything but a nuisance. Those are usually a lot less secular, too.
You tend to just meet the nice, professional ones because well, they work, they go out, they talk to people.
But for every one of those you get two or three of the others, who are much more religious, who think that the western dogs should pay for them, who think that Islam gives them the right to rule, and whom you never meet because they don't go out unless necessary. They send their wives to go grocery shopping, they never learn the language beyond the absolute minimum, and they will just hang out with their own. You only notice them when they live in your neighborhood and it goes to shit.
I don't mind Islam per se, or Muslim immigrants. I also mostly met the nice professionals, but they're the minority.

/edit: Dang I quoted a post from 2015. Didn't see that the thread was old, fuck.
 
I don't know why I just spent two hours arguing with the Muslim, but Muslims were straight up safe with the straight face that no, they don't believe that it's okay to have sex with 6 year old when their prophet literally had sex with a 6 year old. There's something wrong with those people. Islam is a plague on society.
Either they are shiites and they are practicing taquiya
Or like many religious people their only knoledge of the scriptures comes from going to the temple/mosque....
There are some imams (sufis for example) that omit the worst parts of quranic scripture and hadiths so their audience don't know about those parts of islam.
Something similar happens in catholicism, unlike protestantism where a majority of people have read the scriptures, a majority of catholics even today when nearly everybody is literate, have a knowledge of scripture that only comes from the mouth of the priests. (there are people who read the bible and obtain their own interpretation but compared to protestants they are a smaller group)

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Either they are shiites and they are practicing taquiya
Or like many religious people their only knoledge of the scriptures comes from going to the temple/mosque....
There are some imams (sufis for example) that omit the worst parts of quranic scripture and hadiths so their audience don't know about those parts of islam.
Something similar happens in catholicism, unlike protestantism where a majority of people have read the scriptures, a majority of catholics even today when nearly everybody is literate, have a knoledge of scripture that comes from the mouth of the priests. (there are people who read the bible and obtain their own interpretation but compared to protestants they are a smaller group)

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Many will also cope by claiming that it's a translation weirdness and she was 19 years old and not 9.
 
Many will also cope by claiming that it's a translation weirdness and she was 19 years old and not 9.
I suppose that many muslims don't want to admit that their prophet was a child rapist lord of war like those from yemen or joseph kony, because even inbred arabs sometimes manage to develop a minimum of rationality or empathy and start hating on pedos.

You see brother, pedophiles are paradoxical creatures.
They are among the worst mankind has to offer
Yet they manage to unite all kinds of people no matter the ideology or skin tone in the single and peaceful task of righteous justified extermination, kumbaya through blood of degenerates o algo.

TLDR: even retards love their sisters and cousins and don't want them to be hurt
 
Muslims are often hypocrites. Self righteous and retarded.

I worked for an arab about 10 years ago. We were having a discussion about how women today have fallen from grace and how its hard to find one to actually marry. This nigga said to just marry one of my cousins. I looked at him like what the fuck dude I'm not doing that. He said its OK to do so. I told him not where I'm from its not. I've never spoken on that subject with him again.

Another time, I was at a party and was pouring a chick some vodka and orange juice. Some Iraqi walks up and tries to pass me a blunt. I refuse, and he says how alcohol is forbidden. I ask him what that thing in his hand is, and he replies that the quran says nothing about weed. They literally cherry pick what they want and dont want to believe.
 
Another time, I was at a party and was pouring a chick some vodka and orange juice. Some Iraqi walks up and tries to pass me a blunt. I refuse, and he says how alcohol is forbidden. I ask him what that thing in his hand is, and he replies that the quran says nothing about weed. They literally cherry pick what they want and dont want to believe.
Look, I'm eastern Orthodox and we don't have any weird rules and most of us have wedded our scriptures and also all of the church fathers. It's kind of a running joke in Orthodox convert circles that welcome to an Orthodox Church. He is 10 books.

But Muslims are hypocritical on many subjects, especially when it comes to imperialism. How dare all these imperialistic Western dogs? Also, Islam should rule the world.
 
Thats one of the rules that never made sense to me. Theres like different explanations behind them being considered forbidden

The one i was told over 20 decades ago was something along the lines of everyone including him getting shit faced and a fight broke out overnight and people got killed and no one fully remembered what happened.
 
I don't know why I just spent two hours arguing with the Muslim, but Muslims were straight up safe with the straight face that no, they don't believe that it's okay to have sex with 6 year old when their prophet literally had sex with a 6 year old. There's something wrong with those people. Islam is a plague on society.
The Prophet's ﷺ consummation of the marriage of Aisha(May Allah be pleased with her) was at age 9 to be specific, the marriage itself was at 6. Which brings up the point itself, if the Prophet ﷺ was as you accused him of being, why would he even bother waiting at all? Not only that, she already had a suitor at the time before the command came from Allah to marry her. Is it not more reasonable that the accepted age of marriage for that time and across all of antiquity was at or near puberty and that it wasn't abnormal? Even his worst enemies that tried to murder him and destroy Islam from the face of the Earth, who certainly hated Islam a lot more than most people in this thread, who called him Insane and a Magician never even took this line of attack.

Even in Christian tradition Mary (peace be upon her) was married to Joseph when she was 12 and he was 90, but when was the last time you heard people calling Joseph that?

It would be nice if people who hated Islam were more honest and cared about facts but that's a tall order.
 
The Prophet's ﷺ consummation of the marriage of Aisha(May Allah be pleased with her) was at age 9 to be specific, the marriage itself was at 6. Which brings up the point itself, if the Prophet ﷺ was as you accused him of being, why would he even bother waiting at all? Not only that, she already had a suitor at the time before the command came from Allah to marry her. Is it not more reasonable that the accepted age of marriage for that time and across all of antiquity was at or near puberty and that it wasn't abnormal? Even his worst enemies that tried to murder him and destroy Islam from the face of the Earth, who certainly hated Islam a lot more than most people in this thread, who called him Insane and a Magician never even took this line of attack.
Joseph never touched Mary. However, she was a virgin. Also, the simple fact of the matter is Muslims literally believe you can have sex with a six year old. And the average age of marriage at that time is between the ages of 15 to 16.
 
The Prophet's ﷺ consummation of the marriage of Aisha(May Allah be pleased with her) was at age 9 to be specific,
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Reminder that his marriage was abnormal even back in the idol worshipping degens of arabia daya and nothing will change that fact shitskin.
 
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Even in Christian tradition Mary (peace be upon her) was married to Joseph when she was 12 and he was 90, but when was the last time you heard people calling Joseph that?
I’ve never heard of Mary being 12 before, but let’s say that that’s true. Jewish law requires that a person reach the age of majority and puberty for marriage, so Mary would’ve at least been physically mature. There is a MASSIVE difference between a 12 year old and a 9 year old.
 
The Prophet's ﷺ consummation of the marriage of Aisha(May Allah be pleased with her) was at age 9 to be specific, the marriage itself was at 6.

Which makes him a child molester.


Is it not more reasonable that the accepted age of marriage for that time and across all of antiquity was at or near puberty and that it wasn't abnormal?

Six years old is near puberty? Old men who has sex with nine year olds are child rapists. And yes, through out history many cultures and people has attempted to normalise child rape. Muhammad is one such person, but certainly not the only one.

Even in Christian tradition Mary (peace be upon her) was married to Joseph when she was 12 and he was 90,

Lol, no.
 
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