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You're completely insane.
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You're completely insane.
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Of course he is. But, usually, I find it charming.
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Unlike you, all batshit and no charm
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Now is that any kind of way to sweet-talk, lover-dear?
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FTFY
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I just wanted to highlight a wonderful lady who deserves our support for speaking out.
Saudi journalist and TV host Nadine Al-Budair recently criticized the "hypocrites" who say that the terrorists "do not represent Islam or the Muslims." After the abominable Brussels bombings, it's time for us to feel shame and to stop acting as if the terrorists are a rarity," she said, in an address that aired on the Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV on April 3. "Why do we shed our own conscience?" she asked. "Don't these perpetrators emerge from our environment?"
This is amazing because Nadine is actually pointing out Saudi hypocrisy (on a Saudi tv channel no less!), criticizing those who rush to say that terrorists don't represent them when it's Saudi Arabia that is establishing and funding the Wahhabist/Salafist institutions that have been radicalizing and indoctrinating terrorists.
I can't help but be worried about her, though. Saudi Arabia doesn't look kindly on women who don't know their "place."
Saudi journalist and TV host Nadine Al-Budair recently criticized the "hypocrites" who say that the terrorists "do not represent Islam or the Muslims." After the abominable Brussels bombings, it's time for us to feel shame and to stop acting as if the terrorists are a rarity," she said, in an address that aired on the Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV on April 3. "Why do we shed our own conscience?" she asked. "Don't these perpetrators emerge from our environment?"
This is amazing because Nadine is actually pointing out Saudi hypocrisy (on a Saudi tv channel no less!), criticizing those who rush to say that terrorists don't represent them when it's Saudi Arabia that is establishing and funding the Wahhabist/Salafist institutions that have been radicalizing and indoctrinating terrorists.
I can't help but be worried about her, though. Saudi Arabia doesn't look kindly on women who don't know their "place."
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No kidding.
With that kind of gumption, I wish I could be her bullet shield myself. The world always needs more straight-talkers speaking to large audiences.
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Channel 4 just aired a documentary that's been causing a lot of drama. It's called "What British Muslims Really Think" (NOTE: you need to have a (free) Channel 4 account be in the UK to watch this. If you're Murican or some other non-Brit like myself, just download the Hola extension (NOPE, apparently Hola is bad news; just try to find another VPN) and use this postcode generator to get a code to sign up with).
So what do British Muslims think? Well, let's just say they don't think think very liberally. Most shockingly, 52% of those interviewed said they believe homosexuality should be illegal.
People are whining that only Muslims living in areas with a high percentage of Muslims were interviewed, but that kind of proves the point that when Muslims that form exclusive ghettos, they also refuse to integrate. Sites like the Guardian keep running articles that apparently show what British Muslims really think, but said Muslims are the ones that have actually integrated. The fact is that a significant minority of British Muslims aren't really British at all because they refuse to integrate, and that's what the documentary is addressing.
And I just love how everyone who is so outraged at this "racist" survey is placing all the blame on the surveyors. Remember, they're not the ones who provided the answers.
So what do British Muslims think? Well, let's just say they don't think think very liberally. Most shockingly, 52% of those interviewed said they believe homosexuality should be illegal.
People are whining that only Muslims living in areas with a high percentage of Muslims were interviewed, but that kind of proves the point that when Muslims that form exclusive ghettos, they also refuse to integrate. Sites like the Guardian keep running articles that apparently show what British Muslims really think, but said Muslims are the ones that have actually integrated. The fact is that a significant minority of British Muslims aren't really British at all because they refuse to integrate, and that's what the documentary is addressing.
And I just love how everyone who is so outraged at this "racist" survey is placing all the blame on the surveyors. Remember, they're not the ones who provided the answers.
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If the biases in their methodology are bad enough, then the title "What British Muslims Really Think" is inaccurate and people definitely have a reason to complain.
Sure an intelligent person can watch it and derive some useful, non-bigoted conclusions from it. But not everyone's intelligent.
It'd be like interviewing a bunch of black guys in prison about their opinion on white people and titling it "What Black People Really Think".
Of course, this all depends on how bad their methodology was. I don't know. But I can't just dismiss it outright by saying "well duh, no one cares about interviewing the good muslims". That kind of misses the point of documenting muslim opinions.
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That view was commonly held as recently as ten years ago by the general public(x). Also, you could say that Eastern/Russian Orthodox Christianity is equally intolerant because 75% of Russians are Russian Orthodox (x) and 41% of Russians say police should actively work to persecute homosexuals (only 22% don't care; roughly 80% are against gay marriage (x)).
That study and the way it's framed in the media and the implications behind it are exactly what I mean when I talk about Islamophobic propaganda, and I find it a bit disgusting that reporters and news outlets will use the struggle for LGBT rights and the complex societal issues surrounding it as a prop in their Muslim-bashing.
EDIT: Thought I'd add. Here's a study about US Christians and their opinions on whether homosexuality 'should be accepted by society.' You'll notice how the questions were framed differently, the results are presented differently within the article, and the underlying methodology and phrasing within the context of the survey people actually took were probably very different too.
In other words, that source I just linked says 'yay! 52% of Christians think homosexuals should be accepted by society!' from another angle, could alternatively say '48% of US Christians think homosexuals should be ostracized!' and/or that they think homosexuality should be illegal without much trouble.
Another example of wordplay around statistical evidence to present it differently: "a majority of US Christians think homosexuality should be accepted," vs "half of all Christians think homosexuality is completely unacceptable within US society." Both are technically supported by that same statistic.
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So it's "racist" to listen to what people actually say when you ask their opinion on something.
And these loons wonder why nobody takes them seriously.
It appears the "bias" was they went to where the people whose opinions they wanted actually live, instead of cherry picking for outliers more likely to have less objectionable views.
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Russia's move against gays is also heavily motivated by disgust and resentment against the West. Muslim hatred of gays goes deeper still, as well as their hatred for the West.
None of this is a point in their favor. Opposition towards the West only ever makes things worse when it's tied to contempt for civil rights and human freedom.
Those who hate Muslims for being foreigners never bring up their treatment of gays other foreigners in their screeds since they themselves either despise foreigners and gays just as much as the Boko Haram acolytes of the world, or are too cynical and selfish to care about anything but their own ID.
Bringing them up as a means of deflection is meaningless since all worthwhile critics of Islam already hate and oppose such figures, and in many cases deal with nastiness from both the Islamofascists and the Trumpshirts simultaneously.
Hell, the Slobodan Milosheviches of the world have never cared about attacking Muslims for their beliefs since they already have more in common with the men waving black flags in Syria than differences. They kill and rape and abuse people who may or may not happen to be Muslim because such people are foreigners. Comparing people like Douglas Murray to fascists from the Balkans is downright insulting.
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What evidence do you have to back up your claim that Muslims have a deeper hatred of gays than Russians, or that opposition to Westernization is inherently tied to "contempt for civil rights and human freedom"? None of the rest of your post made much sense to me, really, so forgive me for not addressing it more directly. I understand what you're referring to, but I'm not sure what relevance they have or what comparison you're trying to make.
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Paul Joseph Watson has called out Islam, Saudi Arabia, and the Left who is so apologetic of the religion.
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Off topic obviously, but wasn't there some controversy around Hola being a potential threat/issue to users?
I remember some particularly nasty shit being involved that kind of freaked me out even though I never used it. I could be wrong, but I thought it would be a little better to bring it up and be wrong than not and be right.
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Yes. And Null specifically posted not to use it for that reason. It horks your bandwidth, for one thing, but even if you were okay with that, it also uses you as an exit node so your IP address can get hooked up with the traffic of some rando looking at child porn and get you a police visit.
http://adios-hola.org/ is a rundown on how horrible this extension is.
Use Torbrowser instead. It's a trifle more difficult to set specific entry and exit nodes, but you really don't want to have anything to do with Hola.
Tor can also get you fingered for someone else's traffic if you actually deliberately set yourself up as an exit node, but Hola does this automatically, without warning you or any opportunity to turn it off, which is pretty dishonest. I wouldn't trust any entity that runs its operations this dishonestly.
ETA: At least I think Null mentioned this here. I can't find the post, though.
ETA: I probably saw it on 8chan. Hola was also used in a DDoS attack on 8chan. So among other things your IP address could be used for, including other people downloading child porn, your computer could end up a zombie in a DDoS attack, also a felony.
I cannot disrecommend Hola strongly enough.
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Holy fuck. I had no idea! I just deleted it. Thanks for the warning!
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Paul Joseph Watson? Alex Jones's right hand man/pool boy? He's a reliable source of information if I've ever heard one.
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I really don't understand why so many Christians are opposed to Islam despite it being almost identical to Christianity
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Is this sarcasm?