Is the internet archive dying?

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BubbaRobot887

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I don't see a general thread devoted to the internet archive here so I am just going to create one.

I know they just had a big lawsuit but for the past couple of weeks something has been happening and I want to know if it is just me. I use the archive to research history, for one there are books, audio recordings, and historic films and videos that I can't find anywhere else so I think if we do lose the site it would be a huge loss. For one there are many historic radio speeches that I have been unable to find elsewhere that would just vanish off of the face of the earth.

Anyway for the past two weeks or so I have found something, I go on the site and I search for something and if I find a result and click on it the browser just hangs for like five minutes and then I get an error message that the connection has timed out, this happens no matter what browser or computer I use, even if I clean out the cache and reset the cookies, I have tried everything but the site just doesn't seem to work for anything other than loading the main page and then showing search results that can not be used.

Anyone else having this problem?

I really hope this doesn't mean the internet archive is going to vanish.
 
Works on my machine™.

Maybe you're hitting the servers at the peak hours and they shit the bed?
Or maybe your ISP is censoring the Archive? I wouldn't put it past them.
It could be also a DNS issue.
Or maybe they blocked you, because they think you're a data scraper bot or something.

As for the Archive's future, I honestly have no idea. But right now they're still operating as normal.
 
Okay, that is good to know.

Maybe I will try to get on it at my local library and see it that works, that would let me check the ISP theory.

Thanks for the feedback.

Mods you can either close this thread or ideally change it to an general thread about the Internet Archive.
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
I know they just had a big lawsuit
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Another one?

I remember a while back some failed author/RPG designer sued because he blamed his failure on Internet Archive having it for free. I also remember the ROMs being limited due to some nonsense. Likely from Nintendo but I don't remember for sure.

BubbaRobot887 said:
for one there are books, audio recordings, and historic films and videos that I can't find anywhere else
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One thing I like is the old texture CDs. ie. Things used to make old games like Goldeneye and Mario 64. I think they have old stock sound effect records/CDs, but haven't looked too deeply into that.
 
The Internet Archive or Wayback Machine has been compromised for a while now. Other archival services like archive.today and ghostarchive exist.
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
I don't see a general thread devoted to the internet archive here so I am just going to create one.
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I think the main discussion for all Internet Archive stuff is in The Wayback Machine is run by tranny pedophiles thread.

BubbaRobot887 said:
Anyway for the past two weeks or so I have found something, I go on the site and I search for something and if I find a result and click on it the browser just hangs for like five minutes and then I get an error message that the connection has timed out, this happens no matter what browser or computer I use, even if I clean out the cache and reset the cookies, I have tried everything but the site just doesn't seem to work for anything other than loading the main page and then showing search results that can not be used.

Anyone else having this problem?
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I have had slowdowns and timeouts when using it to show archived web pages recently. It usually works if I wait and try again later.

They didn't segment the media archive and web archive parts of the corporation. I expect the lawsuits from their blatant copyright infringement in the media collections to kill the whole operation including the web archive. It would be nice if the web archive can continue under a new operator if this happens, but I am not optimistic about the future.
 
Sneedmason said:
> internet archive
> on the internet

Never understood retards who thought that concept was in any shape or form even just a decent one. Want to archive something? You download it and keep local backups!
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A single collective place for downloading files... From the internet. So you can... Keep them locally? Do you think they hold these files hostage and they can never be extracted from the site? They don't. Do you download files from rock wall paintings in Africa, Sneedmason?
 
It is one of the most mysterious and, at the same time, best-known websites on the internet. Archive.today has built up a user base over a period of more than ten years who use the service to access previous snapshots of a web page. So basically like the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive, only largely free of rules and presumably therefore also anonymous. To the chagrin of the media industry, the service is also often used to bypass paywalls. This is also possible because the service does not adhere to common rules and laws and offers no opt-out option.


And so far, the operators have gotten away with it. Although there have been minor problems in the history of the service occasionally, for example, a top-level domain operator denied them further use of one of the many archive domains. However, the operation of the project, which is allegedly financed by donations and own funds, was not seriously endangered.

Court Order in the USA​

But now the operators of archive.today are apparently fearing bigger trouble. In recent months and years, they had become noticeably quieter. Until two years ago, for example, questions were regularly answered in the blog. In the official X account, which had been silent for over a year, a new post appeared at the end of October new post. “Canary,” it said there, along with a URL. The mentioned canary bird is likely an allusion to an old custom in mining. A canary brought along warned the miners when it keeled over dead about the threat of invisible gas.

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The deadly danger that the site operators fear is apparently linked to the PDF linked in the X post linked PDF. It contains a court order that the US investigative authority FBI has obtained. It instructs the Canadian provider Tucows to hand over comprehensive data about the customer behind archive.today. It concerns address and connection data as well as payment information. If Tucows does not provide the data, penalties are threatened. Whether the court order is genuine and how the operators of the site obtained it could not be verified so far.

Is the operator based in Russia?​

Why the FBI is currently interested in archive.today, which is also accessible under the domains archive.is and archive.ph, is not evident from the court order. However, there are several obvious starting points for investigations: in addition to the obvious reason of copyright issues, the investigators could also be pursuing suspicions about unclear financing, the origin of the operators, or the technical approach.


In 2023, Finnish blogger Janni Patokallio compiled various clues and research results in a post in a post. According to this, Archive.today uses a botnet with changing IP addresses to circumvent anti-scraping measures. There are also indications that the operator(s) are based in Russia. Another private investigation from 2024 comes to a different conclusion. It names a software developer from New York as the alleged operator. According to this investigation, following the trail to Eastern Europe proved to be a red herring.

I don’t know where else to put this but apparently archive.is is being seized by the FBI. Kash Patel once again doing literally anything else other then catching Pedos.

edit: archiveis twitter account has posted the sopenea.
 
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Archive.is and wayback machine hasn't been working which is fustrating because I was going to use it for article research and archiving articles and pages I found for posting here.
 
I highly doubt they're going to get anything useful. Based on what's available publicly in the whois of archive.today (country: CZ), he most likely just reused the same whois he has on archive.is:

Code: 
person:       Denis Petrov
nic-hdl:      DP36-IS
address:      Bilkova 16
address:      Prague, Stare Mesto 11000
address:      CZ
phone:        +420 775168924
e-mail:       domains@dns.li
created:      May 16 2012
source:       ISNIC

Kash loves wasting that cash.
 
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