Is DNA Alive?

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Thinn About It. It influences every aing thing we do and how we look. It wants us to pass it down from generation to generation. A lot of symbiotic theorists postulate that our DNA may be influenced by the reproductive cycle of ancient virions with up to 10% of our DNA being made up of ancient viruses. Fucking crazy considering God may just be sentient energy.
 
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Dna is a fragment of life. It is not alive but can be combined with other things to equal life.

Transposons are dna. They don't do anything useful themselves. They just "survive" by copy pasting themselves in genomes. They are sometimes called "selfish dna". They make up a decent amount of your genome. They can fuck you over by copy pasting into the middle of an important gene effectively deactivating it. They can indirectly be useful because they aren't an important sequence that needs to be preserved so mutations can freely act on them and might turn them into something useful at some point. I wouldn't call them alive.

Prions can self replicate and can have huge effects of things. Would they be alive?

And random genetic...
Actually, there's evidence that our DNA does change throughout our lifespan.
As our cells replicate DNA copy errors occur. This change isn't throughout the DNA in every single cell in our body and the changes are generally random.
What you're maybe thinking about is epigenetics. Epigenetics influences which genes are active or inactive, and these can more easily be influenced by environmental factors. Well I guess environmental factors also influence the DNA... but then we're talking about things like radiation or carcinogens.
 
As our cells replicate DNA copy errors occur. This change isn't throughout the DNA in every single cell in our body and the changes are generally random.
What you're maybe thinking about is epigenetics. Epigenetics influences which genes are active or inactive, and these can more easily be influenced by environmental factors. Well I guess environmental factors also influence the DNA... but then we're talking about things like radiation or carcinogens.
And random genetic mutations over several generations that magically help our offspring survive in certain environments. Isn't that weird?
 
Dna is a fragment of life. It is not alive but can be combined with other things to equal life.

Transposons are dna. They don't do anything useful themselves. They just "survive" by copy pasting themselves in genomes. They are sometimes called "selfish dna". They make up a decent amount of your genome. They can fuck you over by copy pasting into the middle of an important gene effectively deactivating it. They can indirectly be useful because they aren't an important sequence that needs to be preserved so mutations can freely act on them and might turn them into something useful at some point. I wouldn't call them alive.

Prions can self replicate and can have huge effects of things. Would they be alive?

And random genetic mutations over several generations that magically help our offspring survive in certain environments. Isn't that weird?
It's a numbers game. The failures die or don't reproduce as much and get outnumbered or die out after many generations. Depends on how big of a failure it is. Copies are made, errors happen in copying, error has an effect (benefit, deficit, neutral), copies make copies, deficit either dies or makes less copies, over time and with a large enough group it looks like improvement across the board because failures don't last long. It's not so much driven by the dna as it is driven by selection acting on the dna. Eugenics changes things. When people selectively breed animals they are inducing a selection pressure. It's not because the dna wanted to create a more fucked up looking dog. It's because humans chose which dna was allowed to copy itself and wanted to make dogs look more fucked up
 
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And random genetic mutations over several generations that magically help our offspring survive in certain environments. Isn't that weird?
Not at all.
DNA does not mutate to fit the environment nor does it have any goal or purpose (some mutations cause cancer or physical deformity) it's just random. The environment is the deciding factor as to if a mutation is good or not through the mechanism of whether the organism has a higher chance of reproducing.

Mutation happens randomly and is filtered out by the environment.
 
This is less a quirk of DNA and more a quirk of how we define things. You could as easily ask if proteins are alive, or the carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen that comprise you. We have a linguistic understanding of reality which demands that we draw these boundaries somewhere to give each word a constrained meaning, but forget that we're the ones drawing the boundaries. We cut reality up into smaller pieces so we can more easily interface with it, then puzzle and marvel at how it all fits back together. But any carpenter can tell you that every time you make a cut, something is lost. If you cut an eight foot board in two, the pieces won't add up to eight feet anymore, they'll add up to eight feet minus the width of the blade. The material in between is turned to dust. The more divisions you make, the more of the whole you lose in the process. This is necessary, of course; you can't do much with a tree while leaving it a tree. But you also can't put every grain of sawdust back in place.

For the retards in the audience: reality is the tree, words and concepts like "alive" are boards we cut from the tree to make it useful, defining those words and concepts is the act of cutting, and question like OP are sawdust.
 
This is less a quirk of DNA and more a quirk of how we define things. You could as easily ask if proteins are alive, or the carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen that comprise you. We have a linguistic understanding of reality which demands that we draw these boundaries somewhere to give each word a constrained meaning, but forget that we're the ones drawing the boundaries. We cut reality up into smaller pieces so we can more easily interface with it, then puzzle and marvel at how it all fits back together. But any carpenter can tell you that every time you make a cut, something is lost. If you cut an eight foot board in two, the pieces won't add up to eight feet anymore, they'll add up to eight feet minus the width of the blade. The material in between is turned to dust. The more divisions you make, the more of the whole you lose in the process. This is necessary, of course; you can't do much with a tree while leaving it a tree. But you also can't put every grain of sawdust back in place.

For the retards in the audience: reality is the tree, words and concepts like "alive" are boards we cut from the tree to make it useful, defining those words and concepts is the act of cutting, and question like OP are sawdust.
Explains why telomeres shorten after each division.
 
I would do anything to get some sleep. I have not slept at all in over two days. Currently experiencing bad Insomnias. Last night I drew cats for a time.

Anyway. my DNA is alive.
 
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