Is Chris "getting better"?

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Detahramet said:
You seem to be under the entirely wrong impression that Chris even remembers the conflict involving those people. He does not. That, combined with Barb's blatant lies that Chris is too fucking stupid to see past, Chris won't be apologizing any time soon. This is about as good as we'll get, until Barb dies and Chris starts thinking critically.
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I hope he will.
 
Detahramet said:
You seem to be under the entirely wrong impression that Chris even remembers the conflict involving those people. He does not. That, combined with Barb's blatant lies that Chris is too fucking stupid to see past, Chris won't be apologizing any time soon. This is about as good as we'll get, until Barb dies and Chris starts thinking critically.
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Oh, he remembers them alright. Hell, he's even drawn commissions of them, I believe.
 
Pinball Lizard said:
The homophobia apology was a tremendous step in the right direction, but for me there's one thing Chris has yet to do to convince me he's genuinely turned over a new leaf: forgive Megan, Walsh, and Snyder. Because last we saw he still hated them, and was torturing their Lego figurines.
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Does this count as an apology?

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Lysistrata said:
Oh, he remembers them alright. Hell, he's even drawn commissions of them, I believe.
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Hell, he refused to believe he wronged them even as it was happening. When Megan ended their friendship, all he cared about was how hurt he was.
 
Chris in 2015 has seemed like he has tried to avoid causing as many issues as he used too because of legal repercussions catching up with him. Then again he still did the Game Stop incident after what happened with the Game Place and he is lucky is he is not in jail right now. Atleast he is less homophobic and trying to find himself.
 
It totally depends on ones understanding of the word "better". I'm sure some would argue that he has in fact improved, due to how he routinely socializes with people other than his parent(s) and what not. I would say that this new-found "socialization" is basically all bullshit, since he still lacks the most basic foundations of what one would call "social skills". Any time Chris interacts with another person, his mannerisms are based 100% on rote memorization. In other words, over time he has learned that saying certain things will either get him a positive or a negative consequence (completely lacking any sort of real understanding of the relevant whys and whats). It is through this trial-and-error type of learning (I hate to even call it "learning" in his case) that Chris has gotten to where he is now socially.
 
yawning sneasel said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hICl_2RNnBg
What do you think?
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Perhaps thankfully, I was only able to view the first frame of your video due to the video itself having been removed from YouTube. I did see Chris in a towel (also another towel on his hair/head, much like a woman would do - at least I think that's what I saw). I'm sure, had the video *not* been removed, I would have been horrified and shaken to the very foundations of my soul, so I'm going to go ahead and count myself lucky. Thanks for (at least attempting) to further damage my already-scarred mind with more Lovecraftian horrors à la Chris-Chan.
 
ephewe said:
It totally depends on ones understanding of the word "better". I'm sure some would argue that he has in fact improved, due to how he routinely socializes with people other than his parent(s) and what not. I would say that this new-found "socialization" is basically all bullshit, since he still lacks the most basic foundations of what one would call "social skills". Any time Chris interacts with another person, his mannerisms are based 100% on rote memorization. In other words, over time he has learned that saying certain things will either get him a positive or a negative consequence (completely lacking any sort of real understanding of the relevant whys and whats). It is through this trial-and-error type of learning (I hate to even call it "learning" in his case) that Chris has gotten to where he is now socially.
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It is the same way a dog learns to obey commands given to them.
 
ephewe said:
It totally depends on ones understanding of the word "better". I'm sure some would argue that he has in fact improved, due to how he routinely socializes with people other than his parent(s) and what not. I would say that this new-found "socialization" is basically all bullshit, since he still lacks the most basic foundations of what one would call "social skills". Any time Chris interacts with another person, his mannerisms are based 100% on rote memorization. In other words, over time he has learned that saying certain things will either get him a positive or a negative consequence (completely lacking any sort of real understanding of the relevant whys and whats). It is through this trial-and-error type of learning (I hate to even call it "learning" in his case) that Chris has gotten to where he is now socially.
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That is the very definition of socialization (in the sociological context), which is the most common and continuous form. It is the most basic form of learning that most every human being who isn't in continuous social isolation experiences every day.

Perhaps Chris lacks a developed theory of mind, one of the most basic traits of any socially capable human being, but that doesn't mean he isn't learning. Trial and error may be the only way for Chris to even be socialized, recieving sanctions for unwanted behavior and possitive attention for wanted behavior. Chris, under the assumption that he can't fully understand that other people operate differently than himself, is wholey religated to this trial and error method. If he had a functioning theory of mind, he'd be along much further socially.

The funny thing is, the way Chris is developing his social capabilities is exactly the same way most human beings, yourself and myself included, develop theirs. The big difference is that we developed a functioning theory of mind and have the capability to make inferences, and Chris didn't.

The way Chris is learning socially is only different from our own in the degree of inference.


All of that aside, isn't an increase in social competence, regardless of the cause, an improvement? If He became more social by using Meth, it'd still be an improvement.
 
Considering this year events, I feel Chris actually did gain some respect.
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