Is Chris "getting better"?

[Marvin]

Of course not. Unless I'm severely under-estimating Chris' level of mental illness, even he has to realize his way of life is totally unsustainable. After all, if he were that level of psychotic, he wouldn't be able to function at all. His flailing attempts at garnering a replacement mommy are proof enough of that. I think it's safe to say that Fatty is aware, albeit through a glass dumbly, that he's far from being truly happy.

It's not really that unsustainable. He can trivially be comfortable on his tugboat with a part time job.

His attempts at getting a replacement mommy are due to loneliness. Not for any practical reason in his life.

And no, Chris is pretty happy.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

He can trivially be comfortable on his tugboat with a part time job.

So what you are saying is that once this market for Chris-made stuff finally dries up, he won't be comfortable?

 

[Marvin]

So what you are saying is that once this market for Chris-made stuff finally dries up, he won't be comfortable?

I mean post-Barb. While Barb's alive, she contributes to the household expenses to some degree.

 

[IV 445]

And no, Chris is pretty happy.

That's what some people don't like

 

[SnergenFlergen]

t's not really that unsustainable. He can trivially be comfortable on his tugboat with a part time job.

So what you're saying is it's unsustainable.

Also I remember a few months ago you saying that Chris having a job would be illogical and unnecessary, why the change of heart?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Once upon a time, Chris was getting into all kinds of really odd shenanigans like yelling at "Freaking Emmanuel God" in the parking lot of a Mexican restaurant, uploading a video of a "male idiot" operating a "shovel mech" while Chris was freaking out about it, overreacting to a fake poster campaign, and of course, all the blarms protest related stuff. Now he's pretty much just quietly making and selling stuff.

I don't really keep up with his antics anymore nowadays.

So to answer OP question: is Chris getting better - maybe? A little?

 

[Sperglord Dante]

Guys, Chris:
- Is over thirthy.
- Has basically nothing to add to a resume.
- His google search results would scare any potential employers.
- Is socially incompetent.
- Has no contacts.
- Being hideous and dressing like a woman can't possibly help.

What kind of real job could he possibly get AND keep for more than a few months?

 

[asperhes]

A month ago when this thread was created, my attitude was wait and see. Now I think there's clear evidence that Chris is as emotionally stable as he's ever been. The therapy and/or medication are working very well. He simply does not respond to events with his characteristic anger and anxiety. Call him a hypocrite on the blarms crusade, but what's really happened here is that his therapist has helped him work through this issue and he's been able to make peace with the situation. "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change."--yep. He responds to trolls with the same equanimity. His fury last December was greater than anything he'd ever felt, and now it's all melted away. He's got 99 other problems, but these will be easier to deal with if he can accept the world on its own terms.

 

[Marvin]

So what you're saying is it's unsustainable.

Also I remember a few months ago you saying that Chris having a job would be illogical and unnecessary, why the change of heart?

There is no change of heart. It is retarded to judge Chris for not having a job when he does not need a job. He lives a very comfortable life, considering his goals and aspirations. Judging Chris for not having a job basically amounts to "he doesn't work! he must be depressed/ruined/on the precipice of failure!" He's not.

As I noted in my response to @Hollywood Hulk Hogan , when I said that his lifestyle is easily sustainable with a part time job, I was talking about post-Barb. Chris has no need for a job while she's alive. It would only serve to make him miserable, in exchange for money he doesn't need. He's fairly content with the income he currently has.

I only suggest a part time job after Barb dies, because I think the best option for Chris would be to ditch 14BC and get an apartment. With an apartment, his tugboat would be stretched pretty thin, so it'd probably be best for him to get a part time job when the time comes.

 

[AnimuGinger]

Guys, Chris:
- Is over thirthy.
- Has basically nothing to add to a resume.
- His google search results would scare any potential employers.
- Is socially incompetent.
- Has no contacts.
- Being hideous and dressing like a woman can't possibly help.

What kind of real job could he possibly get AND keep for more than a few months?

Stockwork at a generic bigbox retailer, or Goodwill. Goodwill hires people who are worse-off than Chris.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

There is no change of heart. It is retarded to judge Chris for not having a job when he does not need a job. He lives a very comfortable life, considering his goals and aspirations. Judging Chris for not having a job basically amounts to "he doesn't work! he must be depressed/ruined/on the precipice of failure!"

I don't judge Chris for not having a job. Never have, never will. With that being said, Chris's goals and aspirations are to live independently with his eventual sweetheart and raise a child, Right? Not having a job or saving money at the age of 33 is not acting in a way that helps him achieve this particular life goal. That is a fact.

How is he living comfortably with these aspirations in mind? Or have I got his aspirations all wrong? Just curious.

As I noted in my response to @Hollywood Hulk Hogan , when I said that his lifestyle is easily sustainable with a part time job, I was talking about post-Barb. Chris has no need for a job while she's alive. It would only serve to make him miserable, in exchange money he doesn't need. He's fairly content with the income he currently has.

I agree with you here, however this raises questions as well;

You've said in the past that whilst living under barb's roof, Chris is subject to having his money unfairly controlled and docked against his will; surely this would be the ideal time to have a job in order to compensate for this, and squirrel away money beyond his mother's control so he has a nest egg for when she dies?

Also having 'money you don't need' is an alien concept to me (on account of me not being Donald Trump) so how, with the future Chris faces once his mother buys it (especially considering his life goals), can he possibly have too much money at this stage, even if he does just move into a shitty apartment?

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Chris has chosen to live as a preschooler. But he is one, so it suits him. He still gets the freedom afforded to adults, but very few of the responsibilities. Chris is constantly mortgaging his future to live in the now. He doesn't see it that way because for his entire life he has almost never had to pay the consequences for his mistakes. He is perfectly fine right now, but he lives with the constant threat of dire consequences. Barb might be the anchor that holds him down and keeps him from being the girl he was born to be, but she is probably also the only person in his life who keeps him from running naked through Fashion Square. When she's gone, he'll have freedom, and will probably pay the price for it. Also, when she's gone he will be utterly alone. This will be much worse than when Bob went to White Heaven.

 

[Marvin]

I don't judge Chris for not having a job. Never have, never will. With that being said, Chris's goals and aspirations are to live independently with his eventual sweetheart and raise a child, Right? Not having a job or saving money at the age of 33 is not acting in a way that helps him achieve this particular life goal. That is a fact.

How is he living comfortably with these aspirations in mind? Or have I got his aspirations all wrong? Just curious.

I don't take those goals seriously as important life goals for Chris. Chris wants to have 2.5 kids and a house with a white picket fence in the same way that your average office worker wants to be a millionaire some day.

Chris is a lot more preoccupied with his day-to-day life, and after that, he's looking into finding a girlfriend for the future. And long-term goals like raising a family are in the far-off, shadowy future. In the same category as getting his duck chopped off.

I agree with you here, however this raises questions as well;

You've said in the past that whilst living under barb's roof, Chris is subject to having his money unfairly controlled and docked against his will; surely this would be the ideal time to have a job in order to compensate for this, and squirrel away money beyond his mother's control so he has a nest egg for when she dies?

Even though it's a subtle distinction, I would phrase it slightly differently: I wouldn't say Barb controls his money or regularly docks his money. I think she arbitrarily takes his money when she wants to. She treats their collective finances as if they're one person. After she takes some money from him, it's not like that the rest is an allowance for Chris.

I think the idea of Chris opening up a outside account to hide money from Barb would be an anathema to him. It'd be like a huge rebellion against her in his mind. And considering how batshit she is, that's probably pretty scary to him.

Also having 'money you don't need' is an alien concept to me (on account of me not being Donald Trump) so how, with the future Chris faces once his mother buys it (especially considering his life goals), can he possibly have too much money at this stage, even if he does just move into a shitty apartment?

I wasn't sure how best to phrase that. When I said "money you don't need," I meant for it to be weighed against the costs of acquiring that money. So yeah, I could become a millionaire by working at the post office for 50 years and saving every penny I earn. But that wouldn't be worth it in the long run.

Chris could earn an extra $500/month by working at a fast food joint. But those hours working would be torture for Chris, and Chris doesn't really need an extra $500/month that badly. I think he'd say pretty much the same thing. Just a lot more retardedly.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

I'm not trying to be cynical, but I would be nothing short of amazed if Chris could hold down a job for a week before getting fired or quitting.

 

[Trilby]

Chris could earn an extra $500/month by working at a fast food joint. But those hours working would be torture for Chris, and Chris doesn't really need an extra $500/month that badly. I think he'd say pretty much the same thing. Just a lot more retardedly.

He'll pull the "opinionated differences" shtick alright.

 

[Holdek]

I mean post-Barb. While Barb's alive, she contributes to the household expenses to some degree.

I would think that once Barb dies, he would have more money. Yes, he would lose whatever she contributes from her pension and Social Security benefits, but it also seems that she scoops into his for Goodwill stuff that Chris has no use for. Plus Chris may get a boost to his if she dies like he did when Bob died.

 

[milkshark]

Stockwork at a generic bigbox retailer, or Goodwill. Goodwill hires people who are worse-off than Chris.

He can't do that job. Manual labor might not require brains, but you have to be able to hustle for your entire shift, walking, lifting, carrying things, staying on task and maintaining a sense of urgency. He'd get fired after 2 days. Honestly, there are Mexican women in his area who probably work 3 of those kind of jobs to provide for their families, and Chris would get left in the dust by them.

I can't see Chris keeping any part time job. Low paying jobs are not easy, and often require a lot of interpersonal skills which Chris will never have due to his autism. When people talk about Chris working part time, they sound like their only knowledge of part time employment is the Burger World scenes from Beavis and Butthead, a cartoon made before the economy tanked.

Goodwill might have the patience for Chris, they have a history of employing disabled people. Still, it's a retail job that will require Chris to stay on task and self motivate, as well as offer a little customer service. They might not fire him but I wouldn't be surprised if Chris no-showed after a week of employment there.

 

[Lipitor]

A month ago when this thread was created, my attitude was wait and see. Now I think there's clear evidence that Chris is as emotionally stable as he's ever been. The therapy and/or medication are working very well. He simply does not respond to events with his characteristic anger and anxiety. Call him a hypocrite on the blarms crusade, but what's really happened here is that his therapist has helped him work through this issue and he's been able to make peace with the situation. "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change."--yep. He responds to trolls with the same equanimity. His fury last December was greater than anything he'd ever felt, and now it's all melted away. He's got 99 other problems, but these will be easier to deal with if he can accept the world on its own terms.

You gotta also remember, Chris is pretty fucking stupid. That goes a long way. He can watch cartoon ponies asspat each other about how they're all friends and that can make him happy for a full week. Chris's experiences emotions through the eyes of a child. It's not too hard to distract a child.

There is no change of heart. It is retarded to judge Chris for not having a job when he does not need a job. He lives a very comfortable life, considering his goals and aspirations. Judging Chris for not having a job basically amounts to "he doesn't work! he must be depressed/ruined/on the precipice of failure!" He's not.

As I noted in my response to @Hollywood Hulk Hogan , when I said that his lifestyle is easily sustainable with a part time job, I was talking about post-Barb. Chris has no need for a job while she's alive. It would only serve to make him miserable, in exchange for money he doesn't need. He's fairly content with the income he currently has.

I only suggest a part time job after Barb dies, because I think the best option for Chris would be to ditch 14BC and get an apartment. With an apartment, his tugboat would be stretched pretty thin, so it'd probably be best for him to get a part time job when the time comes.

HAHAHA i just realized how funny its it to think about the resale value of 14 BLC. It's gonna be so funny when some unsuspecting asshole buys that property.

 

[Trilby]

I can't see Chris keeping any part time job. Low paying jobs are not easy, and often require a lot of interpersonal skills which Chris will never have due to his autism. When people talk about Chris working part time, they sound like their only knowledge of part time employment is the Burger World scenes from Beavis and Butthead, a cartoon made before the economy tanked.

I suppose we all still live in the past thinking that (though they still hire a lot of fresh out of high school tots to work those places).

 

[milkshark]

I suppose we all still live in the past thinking that (though they still hire a lot of fresh out of high school tots to work those places).

Chris isn't as competent as a high schooler. He isn't even as competent as a cartoon idiot high schooler that works at Burger World.

Teenagers are competing for part time work with adults who've been in the workforce for years. Chris would still be at the bottom of the resume pile.