Is America Too Divided?

[Aquilus]

Ever since the 2000 election, I have been seeing a Pattern of America from an English Person from Acrose The Pond? Example: The attempted 2016 election riot over Trump winning due to white middle-class white collar workers in blue states Coping over an orange man winning. And in 2021 as well, but inverse. Is this going to happen to every election from the rest of time? Or are there ways to mediate the election and prevent what happened in 2021 and keep the first democratic nation free? coping And even what is the cause of the retarding? Is it Legacy Media, "Jews," "culture," or some other reason why?

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

It's not divided, it's 50 United States.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Nah, the US has always been divided, you simply don't see it because leftist media has tried to paint the past as this perpetually proggressive period. The LA riots of 1991, for example, the multiple attempted assassinations on Reagan, the actual assassinations of the multiple Kennedys, etc, etc.

It's not divided, it's 50 United States.

Look again, bucko

 

[Not Really Here]

Nothing is new, you just hear about it more due to the speed of communications.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

OP, when has the nation ever been united in peacetime? We’ve had civil wars, actual insurrections, drove natives from their homes, have had horrible presidents in the past, but yet, we are still here.

Division isn’t a big deal, really

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Unification is not inherently a desirable thing. It is useful for things like common currencies, because it makes interregional bookkeeping and accounting easier. But for politics, unity or unification usually means bigger more powerful states. And those being in place means that evil corrupt remorseless sociopaths have a relatively safe, orderly, and easy way of coming into positions where they are parasites on the rest of the population, compared to being a normal "illegal" criminal, compared to smaller political areas in which the political system itself is smaller and you are a more tight-knit society, as opposed to being ruled from thousands of miles away.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

I think a Velvet Divorce is possible but unlikely. All of the leftists in red states have probably been there less then ten years, they can fuck off back to where they came from.

 

[Absolutego]

I think a Velvet Divorce is possible but unlikely. All of the leftists in red states have probably been there less then ten years, they can fuck off back to where they came from.

It's not the 1850's. The division isn't really regional, it's urban vs. rural populations, with the suburbs as purple swing territory.
The best we could get in terms of some kind of national divorce is to take all the megalopolises and turn them into city states so most places aren't ruled by diktats from one overly crowded bug hive.

 

[Neodanthril]

America as a nation is definitely over, there is no reviving the specific cultural attitudes and demographics that once comprised it. There is no fixing this because there is nothing to fix. Continue to expect the major and minor cities in the US to brazilify.
The actual politics of red zionosts and blue zionosts are irrelevant since both sides are identical on policy outside of the few social issues they are allowed to discuss.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

I am about to contradict myself above slightly. But there’s a difference between division and disfunction. People still get along pretty well in this country.

I often see neighbors with Harris and Trump signs next to each other, and they’re civil about it. I’ve worked polling before with an even number of each party present, and we got along swell. Same with those people that hand out those voter cheat sheets in front of polling places. They just chat. I have never seen animosity.

What I would rather see is their anger pointed at people above, but Americans are so peaceful it’s almost pacifistic to a fault.

 

[Coldgrip]

Blame the media. It does everything in it's power to divide people and present an image that the nation is broken beyond repair.

 

[666NASTYFUCKINGFREAK666]

If you get off the internet and go outside people don't actually sperg out about politics and get along; I am a moderate/right side individual and talk politics with my democrat coworkers every week.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

America has had its two party system since forever and knows how to deal with it.
The rest of the world isn't mentally equipped to deal with such bipolar division however. You would be shocked to find out how many true & honest europoors have legitimate TDS and are extremely emotionally invested in American politics just because they read about it on twitter a lot. Sad!

 

[redcent]

As someone living in a country where the politics are more centrist on either side and there isn't a riot after every election, yes. You americans are very, very divided.


Doesn't help the politicians go for the more extremist takes to sell themselves. It would help if there wasn't such a massive loathing each side has for the other and doubling down their opinions based on the other groups extremists.

 

[redcent]

Can't seem to edit but I guess I rescind my earlier remark. No riot this time. Colour me impressed.

 

[gobbos]

It's easy to say, yes, America is irreconcilably divided, but part of me thinks otherwise if we're looking at the current state of politics like its a game of handegg. There's tons of theatrics and general hooliganism on both sides, but very rarely has it come to a consistent pattern of direct blows like in Germany, or even America in the mid 19th century. The closest was 2016-2017, I'd say, since Antifa was formed to terrorize right wingers, and the Proud Boys was formed in response to that, and the results of which mirrored the ideological street fighters in Weimar.

I very well could be wrong here and that the conflict is emerging in an alternative way. But I don't really see boomer qanon people or zoomers mobilizing to save their vision of America, the status quo is too comfortable and people feel like they have both nothing and a lot to lose simultaneously. On the other hand I think Trump's turned White American issues into American issues in the span of a decade, and thus has somewhat united America on a smaller scale. It sucks for White identity politics, but it's a silver lining in terms of unity.