US Inside Kamala Harris’ post-debate dilemma - The vice president is caught between loyalty and ambition, and some allies are chafing.

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Inside Kamala Harris’ post-debate dilemma
Politico (archive.ph)
By Eugene Daniels, Jennifer Haberkorn, and Myah Ward
2024-06-29 11:00:00GMT

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Vice President Kamala Harris, seen at a Las Vegas rally Friday, had to occupy the role of good soldier immediately after the debate. | Ronda Churchill/AP

Amid all of the Democratic panic-texting prompted by President Joe Biden’s shaky debate performance Thursday, one name was curiously absent from many of those conversations: Vice President Kamala Harris.

Names including California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer trended online as potential replacements for Biden on the Democratic ticket, while Harris — by several measures the most obvious and best-positioned candidate — was left to publicly defend Biden at the single worst moment of their four-year-old political partnership.

That was to the chagrin of some Harris allies, who are privately expressing frustration that her name is not being mentioned in the same company as other ambitious Democrats. But they can do little about it: Harris is laboring under a de facto mandate to defend him.

“There’s nothing that she could do externally that would be wise,” Democratic strategist Michael Trujillo said. “Her best strategy is to internally just be an amazing VP.”

She had to perform the role of good soldier almost immediately after the debate, with postmortem interviews having been pre-scheduled with CNN and MSNBC.

As Harris watched Biden’s face-plant, she and her team realized her response would be even more closely scrutinized, according to three aides granted anonymity to describe private discussions — and she quickly made clear to her staff that they shouldn’t try to sugarcoat how badly her running mate had performed.

Harris told her advisers her role was simple, the aides said: project confidence as quickly and clearly as possible as a leader of the party, while preserving credibility by recognizing how weak the debate had been.

“She wanted to have an acknowledgment of what everybody was seeing,” one senior Harris aide said.

Harris’ other two objectives were to zero in on attacking Trump, the aide said, and, perhaps more importantly, move the conversation away from the debate and toward Biden’s record.

“The president said himself that it was not his best performance,” Harris said at a campaign rally on Friday afternoon, before ripping former President Donald Trump for lies he told during the debate.

Harris went on to offer a familiar defense of Biden, one heard from many Democrats who have interacted with him closely.

“I see Joe Biden when the cameras are on and the cameras are off, in the Oval Office negotiating bipartisan deals,” Harris said. “I see him in the Situation Room keeping our country safe, [and] on the world stage meeting with world leaders who often ask for his advice.”

Some allies of the first Black and South Asian woman to be vice president fumed Friday about the lack of attention Harris drew as a possible replacement — not a surrogate — for Biden, passed over in the Beltway chatter for the likes of Newsom, Whitmer and even Govs. JB Pritzker of Illinois and Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania.

“The fact that people keep coming back to this is so offensive to so many of us,” one veteran Democrat and Harris ally said. “They still don’t get that the message you’re saying to people, to this Democratic Party, is, we prefer a white person.”

Another added, “If they think they are going to get through South Carolina bashing an effective and qualified Black woman vice president — their instincts are as bad as I thought they were.”

Their frustration is unlikely to translate into an aggressive push for a change atop the ticket, as they are painfully aware that even acknowledging the possibility Biden might step away would spark a potential feeding frenzy. In other words, amid all the wishcasting surrounding other ambitious Democrats, Harris world can’t make her case without making things worse for Biden.

“Her doing anything externally is going to just hand reporters stories,” Trujillo said. “If she gets any text messages saying something critical, my best advice would be to not reply.”

Her biggest asset, in any case, isn’t a marketing machine — it’s political reality. Were Biden to leave the presidential race, hopping over Harris to any other potential candidate would present significant practical challenges. Only Harris, for instance, would have access to the coffers of the campaign she’s already a part of. Any other candidate would be faced with the tall task of building an infrastructure in a matter of months.

“It’s very hard to go from the minors to the Super Bowl, and compared to running for president, everything else is semi-pro,” said Jamal Simmons, a veteran Democratic operative and former Harris communications director.

There’s also the fact that Harris, despite a rocky couple of years in the polls, still has the highest name ID of any plausible Biden replacement. A recent POLITICO poll found that 41 percent of Democratic voters chose Harris as a hypothetical 2028 nominee. The next closest was Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, with 15 percent, and Newsom, with 14 percent.

Harris’ allies and aides believe that the VP has strengthened her profile in recent months, becoming more adept and confident after months of official and campaign travel. They’re also not shy about pointing out the optics of substituting any other candidate (likely White, possibly male) for Harris — a move that they suggest would upset not only Black delegates at the convention but also Black voters with whom the Biden campaign is already on shaky ground.

Still, she faces skepticism from the Democratic rank-and-file, who have been repelled by Harris’ weak polling numbers and see any of the more-popular-if-lesser-known governors as preferable.

“We actually have to win this election,” said one House Democrat who was granted anonymity to speak candidly about a party leader. “We should put someone up who would not only be a good president, but be a good candidate.”

There are no plans for Harris to go on a Biden defense tour, aides said. She is instead focused on fundraising in the coming days, where she will be in contact with now-jittery donors who are expected to bankroll Biden’s reelection. It will be an opportunity for her to both defend Biden and also make an impression, if only implicit, about her suitability as a replacement.

That is a delicate balancing act she might need to perform for weeks — perhaps until the late-August convention — as the ramifications of Thursday’s debate play out in the polls and on the hustings.

“If she didn’t, imagine what people would say: ‘Well, hold up, even the VP is not defending him.’ But it’s also important that people see and hear from a number of different voices and faces and the people who are in the conversation,” one Democrat close to the White House and campaign said.

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i find it funny that after Joe's debacle of a debate everyone is all of a sudden asking "What about kamala?"

As if the bitch doesn't have her own fucking blunders that are well documented and might be just as bad if not worse than Bidens
 
i find it funny that after Joe's debacle of a debate everyone is all of a sudden asking "What about kamala?"

As if the bitch doesn't have her own fucking blunders that are well documented and might be just as bad if not worse than Bidens
What about "Less competent Black Hillary Clinton"?

There is only one reason she is even near the top seat of power, and she's too old for that to work anymore. At least Hilary got there through her own evil merits.

I don't respect pretty women in positions of authority simply because of the distinct possibility they didn't earn it through merit, but on their knees.

Hilary Clinton is evil, but I respect her. Kamala Harris is also evil, but an incompetent whore, and the funny part is that everyone knows it, but doesn't want to come out and say it.
 
At least Hilary got there through her own evil merits.
The woman whose entire political career stems from being the only bimbo dumb enough to actually marry a philanderer like Bill is still a whore, just a slightly more competent one. Her entire career post-First Lady is being handed political positions by threatening to nuke the party over the Lewinsky incident and tell her bizarre cult of personality to stay home on election day.
It Was Her Turn wasn't just people mocking how she took it for granted, that promise (and her Senate seat, and her Secretary of State job) was given to her.
 
Yes, what about the VP who ,when they were running solo for President, had polling numbers so low they were within margin of error of the poll?

Whose time in the office has been a complete blank to the point she doesn't even have amusing gaffes to her name, like a Quayle or Pence?

Who can't even be arsed to pretend her no-show job as Border Czar is a no-show job and wasn't even at the office on the one day the media said they'd be by to visit?

You think she can do anything good for you at all?

I want what you're smoking, please.
 
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Kamala might actually be so unlikeable that they wouldn't even be able to convincingly fraud her in, and I could see her being retarded enough to not see she'd be jobbing. But Jill is a vapid, power hungry cunt who is "the dumbest bitch I've ever met" to a literal crackhead - I can 100% see Jill pushing against any potential challenge to the throne until TPTB have her shipped off to the farm.
 
I enjoy these assholes getting their just desserts. Should have picked the actually likeable brown girl as veep, but I guess Surf Mommy wasn't lockstep with the MIC.
 
i find it funny that after Joe's debacle of a debate everyone is all of a sudden asking "What about kamala?"

Amid all of the Democratic panic-texting prompted by President Joe Biden’s shaky debate performance Thursday, one name was curiously absent from many of those conversations: Vice President Kamala Harris.

I don't know, according to this, it appears no one is asking about her. Which is sensible.
 
I do not think Kamala can be elected so she needs to just be happy wherever she lands.

Any opponent of her just needs to run endless ads about how she ruthlessly prosecuted black men for nonviolent marijuana crimes and her other abuses of power and she is cooked.

There is a reason she got what .01% of the vote when she ran for POTUS?

Also not great that she sounds like this:
 
Kamala's shits all retarded and fucked up. And she talks like a 3rd grader. I'm surprised they didn't give her some pointers on how to talk in front of a crowd after being selected. But that would be racist and sexist to assume she talks like a fag & needs fixing.

I'm pretty sure she's a day drunk or is stoned 24/7. She probably wants to go back to California and hide under a rock. I'd love to see he be put in to the POTUS position. she'd be terrible at it and Trump would win like 350+ electoral votes.
 
Harris has just wanted to be the Vice-President, but forget about actually doing the job. That's simply too much for to deal with.

A VP worth two shits would be sticking close to Biden, demanding everything official for the President to sign go through them first, and be present with all 'one-on-one' meetings. In short, an 'Assistant/Associate President'. Harris has done none of that, far as I know. Cannot think of one single thing of substance she has accomplished successfully so far, and can't think of anything much she has done at all.
 
“They still don’t get that the message you’re saying to people, to this Democratic Party, is, we prefer a white person.”
Uh, I think people would want a competent person? I don't think people really care that much about whatever race/sex the VP is as long as they're actually good at doing their job and don't get into controversy. Too bad Kamala has had a lot of controversy, she sucks, and nobody actually knows what she's done, she's like an anti-VP.
 
Harris has just wanted to be the Vice-President, but forget about actually doing the job. That's simply too much for to deal with.

A VP worth two shits would be sticking close to Biden, demanding everything official for the President to sign go through them first, and be present with all 'one-on-one' meetings. In short, an 'Assistant/Associate President'. Harris has done none of that, far as I know. Cannot think of one single thing of substance she has accomplished successfully so far, and can't think of anything much she has done at all.
To be fair I doubt that was much of her choice. More likely than not she was intentionally iced out whenever she would try to play a bigger role. DOCTOR Jill doesn’t want any competition in the White House.
 
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