Opinion Inflation Should Make Us All Vegetarians

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Inflation Should Make Us All Vegetarians​

The foods that go into Americans’ bag lunches and onto dinner plates cost 10.8 percent more today than they did this time last year. But inflation has not struck every section of the grocery store at the same rate: The price of animal products is surging.

Meat, poultry, fish and eggs now cost 14.3 percent more than they did a year ago. For a country that consumes about 274 pounds of meat per person per year, that has been a particularly bruising economic reality. If the current rate of food inflation holds, and Americans don’t change their meat consumption habits, they will spend roughly $20 billion more on meat, poultry, fish and eggs over the next year than they did in 2020.

Inflation has the potential to drive welcome change for the planet if Americans think differently about the way they eat. While hunger and food insecurity are a very real problem in the United States and globally, middle- and upper-class Americans still have more choices at the grocery store than perhaps any food shoppers in history. Climate change has motivated some to eat less resource-intensive meat and more vegetables, grains and legumes, but this movement has not reached the scale necessary to bring needed change — yet.

The price of fruits and vegetables has increased by 7.8 percent over the last year, roughly half that of meat and poultry and a bit behind dairy, which has increased by 9.1 percent. A 2021 study in Nature found that animal products produce greenhouse gases at twice the rate of foods from plants. We should be paying attention to every ton of carbon dioxide that goes into the atmosphere — the same way shoppers are watching the cost of every addition to their grocery carts.

What we eat is often cast in moral terms, whether that is diet culture erroneously claiming that willpower is the primary factor that influences body size or vegetarians arguing that eating animals is murder. Americans’ actual diets, though, tend to be dictated by financial rather than ethical considerations. One recent survey of 3,500 consumers found that while environmental concerns and animal rights would not persuade many shoppers to purchase meat substitutes more often, lower prices could.

Inflation resulting from the cost of fuel and feed, coupled with supply chain slowdowns, may make meat substitutes more affordable relative to traditional, factory-farmed meats. Locally raised, more sustainably farmed meat could also come closer to price parity with factory-farmed protein. While fresh fruits and vegetables have long been more expensive, calorie for calorie, compared to meat, the prices of peaches, kale and cucumbers are rising more slowly than chicken breasts and hanger steaks. Beans, legumes and grains like rice and farro are comparatively cheap to start with, highly nutritious, and also seeing fewer inflationary effects than meat (although wheat prices are rising astronomically).

But poorer people and those in “food deserts” may not have reliable access to fruit, vegetables and other fresh foods, and so may not be able to change their diets as readily as those with greater access to fresh food options. That means the responsibility for change falls upon those with the widest set of choices.

Historically, cost has been a powerful force that has changed Americans’ diets. Yes, people in most cultures tend to eat more meat as they grow richer. But tighter budgets have also driven reductions in meat consumption.

Wartime cutbacks in the early 20th century and the inflation of the 1970s amounted to money-conscious nudges from government officials and cookbook authors that pushed diets toward plant-based eating. In 2022, it could happen again.

In 1917, months after the country entered World War I, Congress passed the Lever Food and Fuel Control Act, which granted the government sweeping power over the food supply. Helen Zoe Veit, a professor of history at Michigan State University, quotes a contemporary critic who called it the “most radical” bill ever enacted by Congress in her book “Modern Food, Moral Food.” The Lever Act allowed the government to requisition food and prevent hoarding. It also created the Food Administration, headed by Herbert Hoover, more than a decade away from his presidency, who asked Americans to commit to one wheatless and one meatless meal each day, plus a wheatless Monday, a meatless Tuesday and a porkless Saturday (the pleasant alliteration of “Meatless Monday” evidently hadn’t occurred to him).

The Lever Act came at a time when the cost of living, including food prices, had risen significantly, by about a third from 1897 to 1916. Americans might have balked at Hoover’s top-down management — he was sometimes called the “food dictator” — but they were, by and large, swayed to join the cause, not least because they were already well versed in practicing the art of thrift when it came to food. Dr. Veit points to recipe books from the era that promoted egg-free cakes and meatless casseroles as a way to save money. There was “huge cultural buy-in to the idea that collectively, we could make small sacrifices — which is how people saw giving up meat — and we’d make the sacrifices in the name of a greater good, and get something done,” Dr. Veit told me.

Frances Moore Lappé’s 1971 book “Diet for a Small Planet” helped make food a key part of the counterculture. Lappé argued for redirecting food grown to support meat production to directly feed people facing food insecurity and hunger. Her work had long-lasting implications for the American diet, as did vegetarian cookbooks from the 1970s. One such cookbook, “Dick Gregory’s Natural Diet for Folks Who Eat,” helped to inspire a movement of Black vegans and vegetarians seeking better health and a liberation from the standard American diet.

In that decade, Americans responded to rising inflation and stagnant wages by forming food-buying clubs, getting their groceries at wholesale prices. While meat was part of the package for many, it was often an add-on; grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables were usually the focus. What started as a pragmatic way for poor and working-class people to collectively buy food and save money inspired a countercultural opt-out of capitalism which would eventually became a middle-class movement.

Even public figures got involved: In 1977, the new vice president’s wife, Joan Mondale told reporters that she hoped to continue participating in the 16-family food co-op she had organized in her Washington, neighborhood two years earlier.

Newspapers and television stations began to report on the co-ops. While the accounts often treated them as curiosities, the co-ops were often seen as “worth it for the savings,” Jonathan Kauffman, author of “Hippie Food,” said. “The food co-ops then also became this mechanism for politicizing, sort of publicizing the message that the counterculture had been developing around food.”

Until the 1970s, the number of American vegetarians was negligible. With the spread of new attitudes toward food, that figure rose to 6 percent by 1999, but then stayed there, with a 2018 Gallup survey finding that 5 percent of American adults were vegetarian. With the rise of feel-good labels like “organic” and “natural” and farmers markets that promise locally grown, humanely raised meat — as well as a new, more sophisticated generation of meat substitutes — the message now is less about abstaining entirely than reducing our overall intake.

There is an inherent conflict in asking people to change their most personal habits because of climate change when government policy puts few restraints on polluting industries like oil, gas, coal and automobiles. Still, the answer isn’t either-or, it’s both-and. Rising prices for all kinds of consumer goods are exerting pressure on Americans, but our food spending can be modified more easily than what we pay at the gas pump. We do not have to become, overnight, a nation of vegetarians and vegans, but we could adjust what we eat to save both our pocketbooks and our planet.

While poor and food-insecure households are already stretching their grocery budgets as far as they will go, shoppers with more choices have the relative luxury to see inflation as the nudge they need to go meatless at lunch, or twice a week — or to simply break out of the slab-of-meat-with-two-sides mold that has composed the American plate for decades.

The inflation of the period between the Gilded Age and World War I gave Americans a taste for peanut butter, pasta and stews and casseroles graced with but not dependent on meat. The 1970s brought us brown rice, granola, exciting vegetables like eggplant and zucchini, and every conceivable way to prepare a lentil. Freed from having meat in every meal and with a world of recipes at our fingertips, what will the delicious culinary legacy of this inflationary period be?
 
I hate how they act like growing crops has no cost. It most certainly does. It drains water resources and there is a thing called peak phosphorus, which is a key component in fertilizer. Some land is literally left better utilized by livestock or left fallow than raise crops on it.
Farming isn't just like Stardew Valley?
 
Hope you live in a better state, because I can already imagine California locking that shit down on us. I've also seen those guided private hunt group tours, their prices are going up. I just don't know if it's cost of labor and everything else, or more people are seeing the signs and are unsure on how to do it themselves.
If MN found a way to lock things down without triggering a massive revolt (especially when even the bluest of blue governors elected here still go out fishing on the season opener in an official capacity) I have easy access to the Dakotas. I'm used to MN laws, so I have had to double check with the SD DNR to make sure I'm reading the laws right and they always respond, "You must be from Minnesota, they don't let you have any fun there." Stuff like loaded, uncased guns in a moving vehicle (but you can't fire from a moving vehicle unless you're varmint hunting), all section lines are hunting and vehicle right of ways, you just have to close gates behind you if you go through any...

Trust me, if you want Minneapolis burned to the ground completely and not half-assedly like BLM did and a state to turn from blue to darkest red try taking hunting and fishing rights away here. I think that's the only line our government wouldn't be allowed to cross. I'm a few minutes drive from St. Paul and my city still has a public archery range in its main park with lanes set up to simulate shooting down from a tree stand and they keep expanding it.

The state kind of has this odd, dual character.
 
I hear there's a feral hog population in the south that needs decimating and that there are too many deer around.
If you have agricultural land and enough deer damaging crops to quantify damages then your forester/game warden will practically hand you a stack of nuisance deer permits that basically allow for any deer to be taken any time. While violating the letter of the law, most will readily look the other way to people keeping the meat. Even if you're required to donate it to a food bank, you can set up a more than equitable gentleman's agreement. Seasons and regulations are pretty population dependent and personally my ethical line is that the above is only acceptable if you're otherwise going without. Lifetime licenses come on sale semi-frequently because of short-sighted legislators wanting quick cash. Worst case they buy it back at initial purchase price+interest and you've been hunting free in the mean time.

Feral hogs are not worthless but understand this isn't Wilbur from the farm eventually making it to the slaughterhouse. Sows can be good eating at any age. Boars that are intact at any age will have a taste from awful to make-you-vomit. You can make it passable if you immediately castrate them after killing them, then butcher and prepare it correctly. Even then it is average at best. They are notoriously parasite ridden and you need somebody who can basically get the viscera and an intact GI tract from upper esophagus to B-hole out in one piece. It is not a bad idea to have a hose continuously rinsing as you're cutting, in addition to your normal butchering.

There is an "efficient" method but it's still very much going to involve some dirty work. They'll largely travel and scavenge in groups and once you scout where they are you then begin setting up a trap large enough for the whole group with the door propped open. Don't let the bait run out for a couple of weeks and get them nice and comfortable with entering the trap. Then allow the trap to spring one day. The goal is to get the entire group. It is not a bad idea to have a dog team or two to mop up any stragglers. The tweakers running dogs are usually a special kind of exceptional that will be useful later.

Now you have a group of mixed-sex hogs, and the sows can all die to make further steps simpler. Plus you need a reward after what comes next. Now the remaining all-male group needs to be castrated. This is the part the aforementioned tweakers prove handy for. It is at least a two man job, it is dangerous regardless of armor or preparedness, and it's going to be loud and chaotic. You do not want to be the one handling the elastrator. Ideally you're off somewhere else butchering sows. Once banded the boars need a few weeks finishing on something like corn and the meat will be good then.
I think overfishing mainly applies to commercial fisheries instead of the average joe, too.
This is highly dependent on specific location.
 
Eating vegetarian is not necessarily expensive. Basically just google any Indian vegetarian dish. But is it normal or healthy in the long run? I know that they have done studies on humans on the raw plant diet. They found out that humans just shit themselves constantly because they had to spend almost all their time stuffing their faces. The women stopped menstruating and everyone lost weight.

My point is just, find me a vegetarian/vegan diet routine that actually keeps one full and gives them the calories they need on a daily basis. Does it also taste like food and not tasteless mush? Can't meet your personal caloric thresholds if it tastes like shit and doesn't do a good job of making you feel any better.
 
Serious question(s) though. Why don't we just genocide the fucking feral hogs? And do you think in a sustained collapse that would happen naturally?
Look I'm trying as hard as I can, and I'm not alone! Unless every family outside of major cities found equal dedication, the pigs will surely outlive us. Have you seen what a pack of feral hogs will do to a septic tank and drain field just to eat the literal shit inside? I have. It's not pretty. Unless kin that likes dog hunting really wants to make a thing of trapping them, or the pack is foiling our methods: males are tossed in the hole you're dumping the female's guts in anyway. If you spot one and can safely/legally put rounds on target you stop and find the time to shoot the fuckers. Buzzards need to eat too.
 
Feral hogs are the ultimate invasive species. Powerful, fuck like bunnies, surprisingly intelligent, and aggressive.
 
Look I'm trying as hard as I can, and I'm not alone! Unless every family outside of major cities found equal dedication, the pigs will surely outlive us. Have you seen what a pack of feral hogs will do to a septic tank and drain field just to eat the literal shit inside? I have. It's not pretty. Unless kin that likes dog hunting really wants to make a thing of trapping them, or the pack is foiling our methods: males are tossed in the hole you're dumping the female's guts in anyway. If you spot one and can safely/legally put rounds on target you stop and find the time to shoot the fuckers. Buzzards need to eat too.
I had no idea feral hogs could destroy a septic system.
I've heard scary stories from guys that hunted them, and they will tear up gardens and such, but not about the septic tanks.
 
Oh yeah, becoming vegetarian is the solution. I was hungry for fruit salad last week and figured I'd pick up a melon at the discount market. It was going to be $5 for this small sad looking thing. No thanks. Even canned fruit prices are up. I used to buy mandarin orange cans when they were on sale 2/$1 so I wouldn't die from scurvy during the leanest of lean times. This was only a couple years ago. Now it's $1.59 for the same can, so you're lucky if you can get them on sale 5 for 5.

Now eating less meat, different cuts of meat, and using meat frugally- yeah that's necessary when times are tough. Going full veg is expensive though because you have to eat a crap ton of non-meat proteins that add up to more than a can of tuna or spam. And the difference to your metabolism between a bowl of pea soup, versus putting a couple grams of ham on top, is enormous.
 
I hate how they act like growing crops has no cost. It most certainly does. It drains water resources and there is a thing called peak phosphorus, which is a key component in fertilizer. Some land is literally left better utilized by livestock or left fallow than raise crops on it.
They just think that land is magically ever fertile and that growing crops doesn't drain the soil. They also don't get that livestock is vital to keeping soil packed and fertile to prevent desertification.

My ancestors shattered bones to eat marrow, and with it they forged all this. I'll be damned if some cockstain gets me to forsake the elixir of human evolution.
Small sacrifices?

Can't have children, guns, meat, my own stories, my own culture, my own religion, NOTHING. And no matter how many things I have to do without they'll still lecture me and hound me and never leave me alone.

America has more German blood than English blood and starving Germans are known to go fucking crazy and take on the entire world. I would not bet against White Americans.
Just ask the romans about what happens when Germans get antsy and hungry.
 
“Inflation” and the war in Ukraine has been terrible for fertilizer/potash prices in the last quarter. The Laptop Class of society might think “inflation = Meat bad because meat big money now!” but the price of fruit and veg hasn’t been immune to price rises as well. Russia is the second largest exporter/miner of potash (a mineral in the potassium fambly that is a key ingredient in your average commercial/industrial fertilizer), and the price has skyrocketed since the thing in Ukraine, “whatever happened there”. In contrast the US is #13, but Canada is #1. That’s based off a quick google search but the information is still relatively ballpark accurate.

t.: fertilizer jew

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They just think that land is magically ever fertile and that growing crops doesn't drain the soil. They also don't get that livestock is vital to keeping soil packed and fertile to prevent desertification.

My ancestors shattered bones to eat marrow, and with it they forged all this. I'll be damned if some cockstain gets me to forsake the elixir of human evolution.
The fault of modern man is forgetting the lessons and wisdom of his ancestors. The divorce of modern man and woman from nature is probably the worse offence of current society. Women no longer believe in the fact childbirth can kill them, some very good men refuse to believe they will have to defend their family and house with deadly force, and both men and women believe there will be at no point there will ever be famine or starve. Funko Pops for all.
 
I hate how they act like growing crops has no cost. It most certainly does. It drains water resources and there is a thing called peak phosphorus, which is a key component in fertilizer. Some land is literally left better utilized by livestock or left fallow than raise crops on it.
You may not like it, but this is what peak phosphorus looks like

Farming isn't just like Stardew Valley?
It actually is.

If you do it yourself at small scale, like in Stardew Valley.

As long as you're not a renthog or a bugman, you can just dig a hole in your backyard, throw a bunch of seeds in there, and wait. Barring things like pests, you'll have food in no time. Most residential soil is so rich that you basically have to go out of your way not to grow something. This is because it's been doing something called lying fallow - which is agriculture-speak for "not growing crops" - for decades if not centuries. It lets the soil naturally replenish its nutrients. The only reason farmland needs so much attention is because growing the same thing in the same dirt over and over has a tendency to suck all the nutrients out and leave it barren. Regular, un-cornfucked dirt can grow anything with barely any effort at all.
 
You may not like it, but this is what peak phosphorus looks like


It actually is.

If you do it yourself at small scale, like in Stardew Valley.

As long as you're not a renthog or a bugman, you can just dig a hole in your backyard, throw a bunch of seeds in there, and wait. Barring things like pests, you'll have food in no time. Most residential soil is so rich that you basically have to go out of your way not to grow something. This is because it's been doing something called lying fallow - which is agriculture-speak for "not growing crops" - for decades if not centuries. It lets the soil naturally replenish its nutrients. The only reason farmland needs so much attention is because growing the same thing in the same dirt over and over has a tendency to suck all the nutrients out and leave it barren. Regular, un-cornfucked dirt can grow anything with barely any effort at all.
This is such bugmen bullshit, I have no idea where to start.
 
Lmao you expect families to eat veggies which takes actual work to taste good? And before you tell me that's not true give me a good recipe for Brussel Sprouts that a college freshman can cook, and remember college freshmen usually can't be bothered to wash the produce. I'll wait.

What happens in economic hard times is people eat cheap crap. And means Kraft Mac & Cheese with Hot Dogs, Fried Oscar Meyer Balogna Sandwhiches, and lots of microwaved baked potatoes. Triumphing economic difficulty by pretendinf people will eat healthier is some true Bourgeois Communist garbage.
 
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