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[too long; good read]
There's nothing wrong about being lascivious per se, as long as one keeps their lewdness to appropriate situations. Sweet, on the other hand, probably doesn't have sufficient social awareness to know when or where it's appropriate to be lewd or not, a lot.

Also, as it has been said, there's nothing inherently wrong with aging, but thinking one can look younger than one is to fool "stupid" young women is wrong. Sweet thinking he can pass himself off as half his age is also another example of Sweet pridefully thinking he's smarter than others - just like when he accuses critics on Kiwi Farms of being stupid.
Also also, I suggest something like #DDBB00 as a pee-yellow color, because #FFFF00 can be hard to read on a white BG.
 
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There's nothing wrong about being lascivious per se, as long as one keeps their lewdness to appropriate situations. Sweet, on the other hand, probably doesn't have sufficient social awareness to know when or where it's appropriate to be lewd or not, a lot.

Also, as it has been said, there's nothing inherently wrong with aging, but thinking one can look younger than one is to fool "stupid" young women is wrong. Sweet thinking he can pass himself off as half his age is also another example of Sweet pridefully thinking he's smarter than others - just like when he accuses critics on Kiwi Farms of being stupid.
Also also, I suggest something like #DDBB00 as a pee-yellow color, because #FFFF00 can be hard to read on a white BG.

Very much agreed, and thanks for the suggestion. You're right, it does look better.
 
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I believe I've mentioned it before, but you know how the adults in those old Peanuts cartoons talk like "wah wahwahwah wah?" I wonder if Sweet sees us as talking in "Whitewash Jones" speak because he sees us as dang dirty progressives?

For example, here's what a Kiwi posted:
Lets ignore the fact that you don't make enough money to get a wig let alone all the other shit.

... and here's how that part of said post probably looks in Sweet-o-Vision:
Nuh nuh nuh! You is not has nuh hairpiece' cuz we is not let you has the money!
 
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So did Sweets ever follow up on his insane idea to return to ASU after he distastefully mocked some woman's death, or was he smart enough to realize that he was still banned AND he probably pissed off the entire staff with his remarks?

I mean, how else is he going to find impressionable young girls that he can have phone sex with?

... Slightly serious afterthought here, but has Sweets ever actually spoken to a girl for an extended period of time face to face? I don't count Ashleigh because it was a troll, and as awesome as Treebreen is I also don't count her as she and Sweets's relationship is online and people tend to treat others differently through the veil of anonmity, I feel. The way Sweets seems to expect women to act, he's literally one rejection away from going loveshy.
 
has Sweets ever actually spoken to a girl
As far as we know, only once. With "Ashleigh." While wearing purple pants, a cap full of novelty pins and buttons. And he brought up that the cap was apparently from his deceased father. AND he tried to use his father's death to score some pity sex.

The girl quickly left the scene.

Sweet has been trying to stalk her since. Sweet's excuse for said stalking?
Sweet on the 1st page of this thread said:
It wasn't stalking; it was using my journalism training to gather information about someone I was with. I think I am well within my rights to know the truth about my ex, esp. since my life would have been so much better if I hadn't messed things up so badly with her.
 
As far as we know, only once. With "Ashleigh." While wearing purple pants, a cap full of novelty pins and buttons. And he brought up that the cap was apparently from his deceased father. AND he tried to use his father's death to score some pity sex.

The girl quickly left the scene.

Sweet has been trying to stalk her since. Sweet's excuse for said stalking?
Ah, right, that incident. Yeah, Sweets has all the subtlety and tact of Len's photographed speeding locomotive.

Has it ever been discussed where he got the idea to dress like... that? It sounds like a homeless rodeo clown.
 
Does he still wear the Cub Scout bandana?
I assume he wears whatever he finds at Good Will, Salvation Army or the side of the road while picking up cans.
 
It sounds like a homeless rodeo clown.

Despite Sweet claiming he has a "vast difference" of fashion sense compared to CWC, it seems he too liked to dress just as loudly in half-past 1997. Sweet hints (via projecting) at how he was dressed during the "Ashleigh incident" in a list of "dating tips" for college (more info on page 13 of this thread):
Sweet said:
Dress for success. This means no loud shirts, no pants in bright or unusual colors (like purple), no flipover shades, no baseball caps with humorous slogans, nonovelty pins, buttons, and no itemin your wardrobe or immediate person which once belonged to a now-deceased relative. No clothing item of yours should have a story atttached to it, and if it does, for the luvvagod, don't tell it.

Also, he wore a Cub Scout bandanna to at least the college yearbook photo. It really stands out compared to the other photos. If you read earlier in this thread, you'll see posts by the Doctor where he retells accounts of Sweet by people who went to college with him. I forget which pages they were on though.
 
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If I may, I believe that Sweet's military jacket was supposedly his father's. The hat had a slogan on it that read, "How do I spell relief? W-E-E-K-E-N-D-S."
The slogan is based on an old ad campaign for Rolaids that dated as far back as the 70s. Sweet was wearing the cap in the late 90s.
 
Some of the college fashion stuff is very interesting to me. Well, one of the specific pieces--the Cub Scout bandana--is interesting. While the rest of his ensemble is clearly inappropriate outside of a too-long-postponed laundry day, the bandana wouldn't have seemed totally out of place to me at that time.

I must acknowledge that the bandana was clearly out of place at ASU in the late 90s. We have both visual evidence from the other students' yearbook photos and testimony from a poster who was there at that time. However, in a larger cultural sense, in 1997-98, among college-aged people, there was still a good bit of hangover from the burst of retro/futurist/weird-positive energy in the mid-90s, which itself had been influenced heavily by the slacker culture of the early 90s. Basically, think of how the people in Richard Linklater's Slacker dressed: that was subaltern hipster gear in 1991, and by the mid-90s elements of that style had become...not mainstream, but also not exactly strange. It would be an odd or try-hard look for an engineering, business, or education student, but it was a valid option for English or philosophy students.

Wasn't he wearing the bandana with an Army surplus jacket? I'm too lazy to go look right now. If he was, that's exactly the sort of combo that would have seemed appropriate at that time (but not, apparently, in that place). With an Army jacket you'd be going for a sort of ironic/detached look; you could also wear a Webelos bandana with, say, a t-shirt with a cartoon cereal mascot for a more whimsical look.

The problem is, even if he got two pieces that would go together within the parameters of a particular faddish style, he clearly missed the attitude that the style represents. Sweet is all about sincerity--brash, obnoxious sincerity that attempts but fails to use verbal irony, but still ultimately sincere instead of the bemused ironic detachment that the look requires. And then, of course, he ruins it all anyway with purple fucking pants and a grandpa-worthy novelty cap. (Although the cap itself could have been a failed attempt at capturing the ironic-or-playful appropriation of advertising ephemera into personal style.)

What I'm saying is, I think the bandana might have been an attempt to mimic the style of some people he considered cool in magazines and other media of the time. It was not a locally acceptable style, though, and he failed to realize that you can't successfully take just a piece without adopting an entire look unless you're both hot and charismatic, but the biggest problem is that he failed to understand what made the style work for some people and why it wouldn't work for himself. Which, really, is no surprise at all. Clothing is a form of language, and we have ample evidence that using language effectively and well is not his strong suit. (If pressed, I'd guess his strong suit is "picking up cans by the side of the road." He's probably not especially awful at that.)

(I...I think I've just revealed how I dressed in the late 90s. I swear, though, at least a quarter of my local peers dressed the same way!)
 
Sweet Bro met his Friday deadline, which is nice to see. This edition of Stuff Not Good Enough for The Belch Dimension is lighter on Belch Dimension mundania, and heavier on Jon reminiscing on the past.

Here's a sample:
As the show becomes edgier and Jon turns more confrontational with callers, his look receives an upgrade-- long unkempt hair, flipover shades, button-up shirt worn over grubby tees. Back when working for the college paper, I would actually dress like this. I was consciously trying to emulate shock jock Howard Stern. I adopted a whole "bad boy" persona, grew my hair out shaggy, always kept a tin of sunflower seeds in my back pocket to chew on while I wrote my columns (later I switched to "smoking" toothpicks because they were less messy), and turning in progressively wilder, more outrageous columns. I even took to calling myself "The New King of All Media". It was clear I was not handling success well.
He signs off by quoting a school spirit reworking of Vanilla Ice, circa 1992. Needless to say it's an entertaining read.
 
This entry is noteworthy because Jon Thumb actually says something that I can relate to:
I remember the hours obsessively spent keeping a finger pressed on the record button till the nail turned white, hoping like hell for that coveted goodie to play.
But of course then it devolves into a lot of ego-stroking and sperging about his comic that no one will ever give a shit about.

a god among mortals said:
Sure, I have that sort of freedom with my comic, saying what I want, when I want, and never having to mince words, but back then I had a much wider audience of fans. I said what they were thinking but were afraid to say. Then I'd sit back while my followers lavished me with praise, gifts, and money. I really miss those days.
The delusion is strong in this one.

He also throws in another reference to his insane theory that colleges all over the country are smuggling in young teenage girls to entrap young men, or whatever. Someone nudge Knuckleneck, he's skipping.

Totally not racist u gaiz! said:
Tin Boo Tee [...] a spunky Japanese exchange student
wow

the Winsor McKay of our generation said:
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Note on the window is plastered a humorous bumper sticker
Needless to say, I couldn't tell that that was supposed to be something stuck to a window at all. It just looks like yet another haphazardly-placed speech balloon/text box crammed into the panel. I'm betting it doesn't look any more convincing in color, either.

the Bad Boy of Conservative College Journalism said:
I adopted a whole "bad boy" persona, grew my hair out shaggy, always kept a tin of sunflower seeds in my back pocket to chew on while I wrote my columns (later I switched to "smoking" toothpicks because they were less messy), and turning in progressively wilder, more outrageous columns. I even took to calling myself "The New King of All Media".
I can't imagine why his bosses at the Herald couldn't stand being around him.

Spergs McAutism said:
our old high-school spirit chant--a little blast from way back around half-past 1992:

He's really attached to that "half-past 199x" schtick, isn't he?
 
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Sweetly Delusional said:
It was also a chance to do the same in-your-face style of humor I was known for back in my newspaperman days, which I relished. Sure, I have that sort of freedom with my comic, saying what I want, when I want, and never having to mince words, but back then I had a much wider audience of fans. I said what they were thinking but were afraid to say. Then I'd sit back while my followers lavished me with praise, gifts, and money.

To this day he still thinks that all of that shit from ASU was "praise" from "followers?"

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but holy fuck. I think even Chris knows now that his Sonichu fanbase was mostly trolls.
 
"praise" from "followers?"
Sweet won't accept that it wasn't. If Sweet were to finally learn how he was really perceived at ASU, it would probably shatter him, like the gal-pal reveal did to Chris, so I guess the mind of Sweet sets up a kind of filter on information he's exposed to so that doesn't happen. Us trying to tell him that his perception of life at ASU wasn't accurate really offends him, apparently. Nobody told him that he was acting really annoying and was hard to get along with.
I may be a little slow at the moment, but I don't get the "tin boo tee" thing. Tin Booty? Even IF not racist, it shows a gigantic amount of ignorance.
 
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Sweet won't accept that it wasn't. If Sweet were to finally learn how he was really perceived at ASU, it would probably shatter him, like the gal-pal reveal did to Chris, so I guess the mind of Sweet sets up a kind of filter on information he's exposed to so that doesn't happen. Us trying to tell him that his perception of life at ASU wasn't accurate really offends him, apparently. Nobody told him that he was acting really annoying and was hard to get along with.
I may be a little slow at the moment, but I don't get the "tin boo tee" thing. Tin Booty? Even IF not racist, it shows a gigantic amount of ignorance.
Yeah, if Sweets were to realize that his college days weren't the great time he thought they were, I think it would drive him to a deep depression.
 
I may be a little slow at the moment, but I don't get the "tin boo tee" thing. Tin Booty? Even IF not racist, it shows a gigantic amount of ignorance.
I presume it's supposed to be some kind of booty joke, though the "tin" part doesn't mean anything to me. What really got me was that "Tin Boo Tee" doesn't remotely mesh with Japanese naming conventions, despite the fact that the character is supposed to be a Japanese exchange student. Looks like our highly-skilled newspapermanbaby couldn't be arsed to do a little research in this matter - who would have thought??? But clearly, the only thing that mattered here was that Fuckknuckle got to cram in some kind of racist caricature, complete with wacky name. I shudder to think what her dialogue would have looked like.
 
I don't doubt there were people who liked Sweet's columns - there's such a thing as College Republicans, after all. But a handful of people who agree with your milquetoast middle of the road conservativism is a far cry from hordes of crypto-fans secretly heaping adulation and offerings on the Bad Boy of College Journalism (can you tell I really like that nickname?)
 
He mentioned before he used to hang out with a Japanese exchange student but did not provide any details of the encounter.
 
He mentioned before he used to hang out with a Japanese exchange student but did not provide any details of the encounter.
I want to believe that on some Japanese-language site, there's a bunch of pictures of him with commentary...almost like a Japanese Kiwi Farms. What would that even be called? Regardless, I choose to believe that she/he was hanging out with him out of the same sense of "wtf" that we get from observing our wonderful specimens.
 
Yeah, if Sweets were to realize that his college days weren't the great time he thought they were, I think it would drive him to a deep depression.

So we all know that Sweet Bro ultimately dreams of going back to school. It'll never happen, but what if it did? Would reality finally sink in for dude? If he was allowed back on campus, we all know what a HUGE disaster it would be for him. Not to mention, he expects to score china when he returns there. How would he go about that? Calling random phone numbers from the magical sex-phone?

He mentioned before he used to hang out with a Japanese exchange student but did not provide any details of the encounter.

I wager Sweetness is making that up. He seems to have a habit of bullshitting certain details about his life to make himself seem more badass. According to Sweet, he been with like four other girls besides Ashleigh and the friend his mother hooked him up with.
 
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