🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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OK, my new pals, let's set the Wayback Machine for half-past 1997.

What was Mr. Sweet's behavior like outside the confines of The Herald, where he has freely admitted to acting like a revolting creep of the first water?

Not surprisingly, according to those who were there, it was bizarre in the extreme.

He performed for his adoring public three times a day in the cafeteria. If he didn't jump up and launch into one of his impromptu "homages," he would nonetheless command attention with his grotesque table manners and other dining rituals, all of which essentially shouted, "I'm mentally ill!" As his fellow students averted their eyes in embarrassed silence, Mr. Sweet carried on as if he were receiving a standing ovation.

If there was a free event on campus, Mr. Sweet was in attendance. Your only hope of avoiding him was if there were two or more free events at the same time and you made a lucky choice. At these events, as everywhere else, Mr. Sweet ensured that all eyes and all ears were aware of his presence. If an academic department or a student group brought in a speaker, Mr. Sweet was there, first in line to ask questions that were either off-topic, weird or downright inappropriate. If the event was social in nature, Mr. Sweet, looking like a young Fidel Castro recently emerged from the jungles, would show up and behave as if he was some kind of off-brand superhero whose sole power was to guarantee that no one present had a good time. He almost always succeeded. It got to the point where some people would leave the instant he made his presence loudly and unmistakably known.
This fits in line with his story of doing his Andrew Dice Clay routine at the top of his lungs outside the dorms before someone threw a trash can at him to get him to shut up. This new info leads me to believe that there was building resentment to Sweet and his public performances (although of course Sweet thinks it was actually an attempt by the Herald editor to assassinate him rather than consider the fact that people in general were fed up with his shit).

I guess he did this stuff for attention? An attempt at acceptance? He thought he was being funny?
 
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My web of informants grows. Those who encountered Mr. Sweet do not forget him. He will be very happy to learn this disturbing fact.

If you can find a student who attended ASU during Mr. Sweet's time there, show him or her a photo of our hero. If the student lived off-campus, didn't major in liberal arts and wasn't into attending every free event on campus, you might get a startled look and "What's he wanted for?" in response. But those who had classes with him, watched him eat, worked at The Herald while he was there or encountered him through some other unfortunate set of circumstances, well, they remember.

He used to sperg about how students would set up a big tv in the dorms and watch porn right out in the open. Any thoughts on that?
 
He used to sperg about how students would set up a big tv in the dorms and watch porn right out in the open. Any thoughts on that?

Not @Dr. Merkwurdichliebe, but I can answer from my experiences when living on campus:

I can't say that anyone was watching it in the common areas, but I do remember as a freshmen hearing that some other freshmen on our floor having a "bad porn" night in the same way one would have a bad movie night. It was usually one of those softcore parodies of the latest blockbuster movie or something like sci-fi lesbian midget porn but, either way, nobody watched them for sexual fulfillment. It was all for laughs and it was a lot of people's first time really away from home so stupid stuff is to be expected. I could see Sweet hearing about something similar (or maybe even wandering into one) and, through the power of autism, exaggerating it into his current version of events.
 
This fits in line with his story of doing his Andrew Dice Clay routine at the top of his lungs outside the dorms before someone threw a trash can at him to get him to shut up. This new info leads me to believe that there was building resentment to Sweet and his public performances (although of course Sweet thinks it was actually an attempt by the Herald editor to assassinate him rather than consider the fact that people in general were fed up with his shit).

I guess he did this stuff for attention? An attempt at acceptance? He thought he was being funny?

Andy Kaufman, Sweets ain't.
 
He thought he was being funny?
Here's A-Stump's view from page 21:
A-Stump said:
'Impromptu performances' sounds like [Sweet was] the guy everyone hates in a lunch room or indeed any setting
This was in response to Sweet bringing it up on page 19:
Sweet said:
Back in the day I often performed impromptu stand-up in the cafeteria during mealtime. They loved me. Another reason I miss college....
(that post also discussed the incident where Sweet's brother stole money from Sweet)
 
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I kind of imagine Sweetums curled up in a ball on the floor after reading all of the accounts of people who have not only been to ASU but were aware of him during his time there. Eventually, I'm sure that he'll come around to the view that everyone there was and is currently part of The System (he'll get the gold in mental gymnastics for sure!) but, for now, I assume his ego must have been taken down a notch or two.
 
I kind of imagine Sweetums curled up in a ball on the floor after reading all of the accounts of people who have not only been to ASU but were aware of him during his time there. Eventually, I'm sure that he'll come around to the view that everyone there was and is currently part of The System (he'll get the gold in mental gymnastics for sure!) but, for now, I assume his ego must have been taken down a notch or two.

Has he been lurking here? I haven't seen new activity from him in quite some time.
 
I kind of imagine Sweetums curled up in a ball on the floor after reading all of the accounts of people who have not only been to ASU but were aware of him during his time there. Eventually, I'm sure that he'll come around to the view that everyone there was and is currently part of The System (he'll get the gold in mental gymnastics for sure!) but, for now, I assume his ego must have been taken down a notch or two.
This is Sweetie's version of learning that his gal-pals were being paid to hang out with him. (:_(
 
It appears thanks to the good doctor's detective work that my suspicious was correct. Sweet was universally loathed on campus, and the powers-that-be were just aching for some reason to get rid of him. His ripping off of the SNL sketch gave them just the ammo they needed. The truly sad part is that he could have avoided the whole debacle by simply stating he was inspired by the sketch, since while the idea was not original, the content was. Of course, his article was very racist so he still might have gotten in trouble, but they probably would have just kicked him off the paper, not out of school. I wonder what his grades were like. Since he's very much a "twist facts to suit theories" kind of guy, I can't imagine he did well in any class where objectivity was required.

Had Sweet attended my university, he would have been dragged in for psych eval long before he could plagiarize anything and probably forced to live off campus if not expelled entirely. He would have gotten his ass handed to him by his dormmates repeatedly for disrupting meal time and special events.
 
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I'm sure that he'll come around to the view that everyone there was and is currently part of The System[...]
I was recently thinking something like that also. "Progressives," "liberals," "The System," and "ploys" are obviously labels Sweet likes to use for people and stuff he doesn't like. Oh yeah, and "fartknockers."
 
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Kudos to the good Herr Doktor for pointing me toward snopes.com!

Sweet appears to have started posting as Nostradamus, and later switched to The Iconoclast. He carried out the change with his usual subtlety, meaning that other posters picked him up on it and used is as basis for mockery.

Below is as much as I could find of his Snopes posting (not in chronological order, apologies):

 
How many girlfriends is Sweet claiming to have had? I thought Ashleigh was his one and only. In fact, I thought it was suspected he was still a virgin. Given his bizarre and obnoxious behavior, I find it hard to believe any woman would willingly associate with him, let alone actually allow him to touch her. Or did he find someone with really low standards?
 
How many girlfriends is Sweet claiming to have had? I thought Ashleigh was his one and only. In fact, I thought it was suspected he was still a virgin. Given his bizarre and obnoxious behavior, I find it hard to believe any woman would willingly associate with him, let alone actually allow him to touch her. Or did he find someone with really low standards?
I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest he is not a virgin (with rage). One of his Snopes posts contains a tacit admittal to not having any hands-on knowledge of the female form.

As far as I can deduce, the three "girlfriends" were all long-distance or chinaphone affairs - with the possible exception of the Japanese exchange student who Sweet apparently ate lunch or dinner with at college (given Dr M's revelations, this lady has my deepest sympathy). Sweet acknowledges in some posts on AJM that he was nothing more than a dining companion to this lady, contradicting his boasts made elsewhere of having had a real Japanese girlfriend.

The other two long-distance ladies appear to be someone he met on a Daria messageboard in the late 90s, and a penpal who Sweet "promoted to lover status" after Ashlaay didn't buy the 'sex plox my Dad died' angle. This latter relationship Sweet appears to have screwed up because he was disappointed that new girl didn't share Ashlaay's love of recounting sexually explicit tales for his salivation.
 
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How many girlfriends is Sweet claiming to have had? I thought Ashleigh was his one and only. In fact, I thought it was suspected he was still a virgin. Given his bizarre and obnoxious behavior, I find it hard to believe any woman would willingly associate with him, let alone actually allow him to touch her. Or did he find someone with really low standards?
I'm pretty sure he is a confirmed virgin.
 
I found some more of Sweet's internet history. I am newspaperman, hear me roar.

Here's his profile at the Daria wiki: https://archive.is/5xxuH

Some of it was clearly written by our Sweetian hero, with some interesting NPOV additions.

For instance, here is Sweet's self-description circa half-past 1997:

"'Dr. Belch' is the messageboard pseudonym of one of our most bizarre authors, Jonathan M. Sweet. Sweet is a senior at Arkansas State University, soon to be a grad student, who majors in English and plans one day to be a teacher and author. His biggest dream is to start a comic book company and do voiceover work for cartoons produced by his own studio. Originally born in the Windy City, Sweet came down South at the tender age of five and was held prisoner of war for twelve years in his own sick, sad world of Blytheville, AR...the dismal, mostly black little toilet bowl of a town that provided him with the inspiration for the town his characters live, love, and die in...Jigaboo Junction, USA. It is a horrible, surreal little world that mirrors own own like a shard of broken glass. The hero of his stories is J.M. Sweet, an uberteen who has devoted his life to saving the city and a constant search for his true purpose in life.
Sweet the author is a tall, bespectacled man with a fierce beard and long sideburns with the build of a pro wrestler; his 6 foot tall 210-lb. frame throws fear into the hearts of the weak. He is a big fan of the music of Bob Dylan and a harmonica player who believes that the cheeseburger is nature's perfect food and who loves to listen to music and AM talk radio, read Stephen King, utter belches of great volume and length (hence the pseudonym), write, draw, and watch TV--especially classic sitcoms, stand-up comedy, "Daria" (natch), "South Park", "Beavis and ButtHead", and "Pinky and the Brain". His idols are Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern, Lewis Grizzard, Andrew Dice Clay, and of course, the great one himself, Mr. Bob Dylan!
Sweet is currently carrying on a long-distance love affair with a certain other darling of the message boards."

Some misting, because I must:

plans one day to be a teacher and author
Partial life goal achievement! I think we've all learned something from Sweet's example.

Blytheville, AR...the dismal, mostly black little toilet bowl of a town
"I'm totally not a racist! My work is a parody of racism! Liberals are the racist ones!"

Sweet the author is a tall, bespectacled man with a fierce beard and long sideburns with the build of a pro wrestler; his 6 foot tall 210-lb. frame throws fear into the hearts of the weak.

The English teacher in me would be content with a wry observation that Sweet's description implies that his beard and sideburns are built like a pro wrestler. However, the low road is often the straightest, so I'll do this:
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"Hard times, Ashlaay"

Note the obvious non-Sweet comment at the top of the wiki page:

Not much is known about Dr. Belch, but he can certainly be considered a controversial figure in Daria fandom due to the blatant and extreme amount of racism found in his fanfic, Spring Break In Hell.

The fic in question can be found here: https://archive.is/qyjTA

Infinitely more readable is a critical review found here: https://archive.is/fdwzA

The review was pretty interesting to me. It seems to date from 1997-98, and it shows that some of the traits that make Belch Dimension so Sonichu-tier were present almost 20 years ago (and thus before the Liberal plot had stolen Sweet's talent and redistributed it to Blaxican gays).

The review said:
Daria and Jane encounter a rowdy group of teenagers who protect the town from anyone of African decent. Jon, the male personification of Daria minus the IQ, has gained superpowers through a freak accident and his gang of friends hang out in a treehouse.
I never really watched Daria, and so can't confirm, but it seems that Jonichu - at least half-past-1997-vintage Jonichu - is basically a genderswapped Daria recolour.

The review said:
You would think Daria would take ample time to cut down everyone in the story, but instead she becomes a sort of sex object that contorts to the twisted style of writing.

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The review said:
It's quite funny how all the swear words are blanked out but not horrible garbage like "nigger".
Jonathan M. Sweet's work has been criticised for its racism for almost two decades.

The review said:
The only trueness to the show is the many times all the gags are used from it as well as Beavis and Butthead.
For someone who probably thinks the "green agenda" is the work of homosexual communists, Mr Sweet sure does love to recycle. His work is confirmed as always being predominently "borrowed" from existing media.
 
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If he really is a virgin at 40, no wonder he's so pissed off. Maybe we should start a Kickstarter to hire him a hooker, so he knows a woman's touch at least once before he dies.
 
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