🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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HSMOF said: ... like enjoying a migraine.
Funny, that's exactly how I feel when talking to you.

...You insist you have talent... You should use it instead of ripping off other well-known characters and gags.
My talent lies in reading trends. The eighties are a hot commodity now-- TMNT, Pac-Man, new characters rendered in the Ruby-Spears and Filmation house style (since a lot of current people in the industry were kids growing up on the same shows I did back in the day). Why not give the people what they want? Draw a familiar character just off-model enough to avoid legal problems, and change the name. Voila. Instant franchise.

Harley isn't a jester, she's a punk rock biker babe, complete with rainbow hair. You can see it better in this musical number (in which she isn't wearing that dopey sweater and long johns under her skirt).

okay, an example of you people blatantly getting things wrong, as usual:
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What is all that? Something about a guy dropping papers in something, then getting hit by a dog or deer or some other creature, and then winding up in a library or bookstore or something? What the hell is even going on?

The poo-head stick figure guy ... seems to be getting slapped by a dog.


  • Panel 1 -- Timmy ransacks the bureau drawer, throwing papers everywhere, looking for the strongbox beneath.
  • Panel 2-- Buddy (inexplicably inside the drawer, having been tricked outside the room a few panels earlier) clamps his jaws shut on his hand. Timmy starts to yell but quickly claps his hand over his mouth.
  • Panel 3-- Timmy fumbles for the doorknob with his good hand, still trying to stifle his yell. There's a shelf of books in the background of the bedroom.

It's all an homage to one of my favorite old Droopy cartoons.

If you have to explain what's going on in the panels of your comic, Sweets, then you're not very good at drawing comics.
So... all those letters-to-the-editor in the back of comic books where people ask what's going on means those artists aren't very good? It seems I only have to explain my art to you people. My friends here get me juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust fine. Maybe something is wrong with your cognition. Maybe you should go see a mental health professional. Blah-blah-blah.
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Yes, Kiwis, it is your fault that my comic is unreadable!
 
Jon Thumb on Nutrition said:
When I criticized the First Lady's school lunch plan, some folks were all, "Why you is hates chirrens? Why you is want chirrens to get fat and die?" And I said, "I don't hate children. I just love freedom more."

I'm pretty sure that Burnside's Folly wouldn't have bitched if it was Laura Bush doing this push. On top of that, the main reason why this is being pushed is primarily to try prevent the kids from picking up bad nutrition habits early.

To be fair, that whole school lunch thing is kind of stupid and a little bit like 'meddling'. It's not your job to make sure everyone gets five a day etc... just educate the people, including the kids (crazy idea right?) and let them decide for themselves.
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The kids would decide 9/10 for the sweet and unhealthy shit if you had them decide for themselves in my personal opinion. I know I did when I was a kid, particularly towards the sodas.

I do generally agree that education on nutrition, as well as cooking are pretty important things that should be taught to children though, since it really helps cut down on such myths as eating out being cheaper, and that unhealthier foods being cheaper than healthy foods. It also shows how foods can fill a person up.
 
Sweets said:
My talent lies in reading trends. The eighties are a hot commodity now-- TMNT, Pac-Man, new characters rendered in the Ruby-Spears and Filmation house style (since a lot of current people in the industry were kids growing up on the same shows I did back in the day). Why not give the people what they want?

Wow, Sweetums, even when it comes to nostalgia, you're a decade behind.

The 2000's were the biggest decade for 80's nostalgia, since most people who grew up in the 80's were in their 20's then. I quite vividly remember Thundercats, TMNT, Transformers, Rainbow Brite, Strawberry Shortcake and even fucking Popples merchandise being sold to nostalgic 20-somethings last decade. There's still 80's nostalgia now, but 90's nostalgia is in.

Remember, nostalgia is always 20 years back since at least the 60's.

You suck at this, Sweets.
 
Jon Sweet said:
So... all those letters-to-the-editor in the back of comic books where people ask what's going on means those artists aren't very good? It seems I only have to explain my art to you people. My friends here get me juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust fine. Maybe something is wrong with your cognition. Maybe you should go see a mental health professional. Blah-blah-blah

Rob Liefeld would laugh at you.
 
he only disliked it because talking heads told him to
That reminds me - reading an article he posted on the site he runs reminded me of the way the conservative American radio host Rush Limbaugh talks for some reason. I think it was in that "liberalism: the road to hell" article. In it, Sweet also says he grew up in a "black neighborhood" in the context of the neighborhood being a high crime area. Also, I believe that Sweet claims in that article that the amount of mercury found in CFLs is enough to cause an agonizing death.

edit: Here we go:
Liberalism--The Road to Hell by Sweet said:
You throw that baby [a used incandescent bulb] on a slab of pavement, it shatters and makes a noise like a gunshot. (Of course, it was a black neighborhood, so there was often plenty of the real thing.) [...] If you are exposed to even a fairly small amount of mercury--say, about what's in a smart bulb--your skin turns red and falls off, your lungs rot from the inside, and you drop dead with a frigging pantload.
 
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How racist are Jonathan M. Sweet's comics?

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So racist that a black character calls his boss "Massa". That's how racist Jonathan M. Sweet's comics are.
 
How racist are Jonathan M. Sweet's comics?


So racist that a black character calls his boss "Massa". That's how racist Jonathan M. Sweet's comics are.
Okay, so I get he's not a very good artist and all, but dear lord what is wrong with the hand at the top above the speech bubble? Is the small finger backwards? I'm so confused. It's making my hands hurt just looking at it.
 
How racist are Jonathan M. Sweet's comics?


So racist that a black character calls his boss "Massa". That's how racist Jonathan M. Sweet's comics are.

Why is his pinky finger longer than all the other fingers? It's called the "little finger" for a reason, Jon. Furthermore, why is it connected directly to his wrist? There's this thing called a metacarpal, I want you to look at this image and memorize it.

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The best I can say is that at least he's somewhat honest about his appearance. Most artists wouldn't draw themselves to look like a wanted poster for a sex offender.
 
If the really ugly one is supposed to be the main antagonist, I have to give him credit for so accurately portraying himself.

Now that I'm looking at his hands, Great Director Sweet seems to be wearing a couple of rings on each hand. I wonder if that's a part of his trademark real-world attire?
You looked at that trashpile for long enough to notice such details?
Oh boy, I bet one of 'em is amnyfest.
 
Let me know if this reveals too much of my power level.

I wrote for my campus paper when I was in college. Like Sweet, I left the paper on bad terms after a dispute with a copy editor. However, this had no lasting effect on my life-- I was not "blacklisted," nor was I subjected to any other conspiracy. I just moved on to write for another paper.

I'd like to know how he would account for this-- I butted up against "the system" in a way similar to how he defines what occurred to him, and yet didn't suffer any consequences-- no smear campaign, no trash can assassinations, etc.
 
Let me know if this reveals too much of my power level.

I wrote for my campus paper when I was in college. Like Sweet, I left the paper on bad terms after a dispute with a copy editor. However, this had no lasting effect on my life-- I was not "blacklisted," nor was I subjected to any other conspiracy. I just moved on to write for another paper.

I'd like to know how he would account for this-- I butted up against "the system" in a way similar to how he defines what occurred to him, and yet didn't suffer any consequences-- no smear campaign, no trash can assassinations, etc.
Obviously because you were progressive or something the rules worked for you...? Really he's never been very clear when things like this happen (lol as clear as he ever is), and there's always some overriding principle you supposedly possess that prevents you from falling prey to "The System". You know, the exact same System we all had to deal with at schools everywhere?

See the thing of it is, I don't necessarily disagree with him calling the way that colleges and most organizations are run a "System". Because that's the technical term for it: a collection of rules and protocols everyone mutually agrees to adhere to so that things can get done and everyone remains focused and organized. We all agree on that definition, right? Here, I'll redo it a little better:

System: in this context, a collection of rules and methods of operation (protocols) that all parties mutually agree to follow so as to prevent dysfunction and allow the business or organization to remain focused upon its key goals. This also (ideally) allows for efficient conflict resolution and effective management of logistics (resources) and personnel, again, with the overall goal of accomplishing whatever the mission statement or mandate is.

Sound good? I like it (and not just because I wrote it haha) because it's not only the sort of System I would want to work under, its based in logic and is very close to the System I use at work, where I administer employees and handle business accordingly. We got all the bells and whistles: that efficient management, little to no waste of resources or manpower, little to no dysfunction, and effective conflict resolution.

This might all seem like a bunch of rambling, so how about I get to the point? It has two parts: first ( Part A), Sweetness, it only works if everyone fucking follows it. You, by your own admission, chose to stop following it when it became inconvenient for you! And then you get mad when you get hit in the ass by the door on the way out! Everyone else on Earth, except for you and a handful of people just like you, who all insist that they're above the rules and that life is unfair for reasons that don't hold up to scrutiny and don't make ANY GODDAMN SENSE, handles their business within the System juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust fine. :) See what I did there? God you're fucking annoying with that shit.

Part B is this: You were inside of this System and when you had a problem (or several, from the sounds of it) rather than just throw you out on your ass, they fucking tried to help you! That's what conflict resolution is for! There are people in place whose jobs are solely to ensure that the conflict resolution system works, again, because of situations just like this, where 9 times out of 10 it's just a misunderstanding and not a chronic problem employee who has his head up his ass. That's what really boggles me, what really 100% truth-and-honestly gets me about your constant bleating about the System: not only is there effective methods of conflict resolution in place for people JUST LIKE YOU AND EVEN ME(!!!!!), it's much more lenient than the treatment you'd get at a private business or even a private school. And you still fucked it up because you refused to acknowledge that anything is ever your fault. As you said yourself, you refuse to take responsibility for your actions, and you wonder why everyone treats you like a little kid.

Well, whenever you're ready to live in the real world and do real world grownup big boy things, then you can have your welfare checks back. How's that sound? :)
 
How racist are Jonathan M. Sweet's comics?


So racist that a black character calls his boss "Massa". That's how racist Jonathan M. Sweet's comics are.

Cripes. Sikko the Clown in that bottom panel there. Jiminy Christmas ...

Edit: Sweet really suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks at drawing hands.
 
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3-2 vote by FCC; The great 'Net neutrality law passes

First, ObamaCable. Now, welcome to the brave new world of ... ObamaNet!

Everything that Obama passes is bad!

In short: it's a ploy.

Mod, please close what is officially the worst News Thread ever.
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When asked to explain Net Neutrality, all he can do is fall back on "it's a ploy" and "damn progressives".

I talked about them here to show my brother AJM'es what it is we're fighting against-- the encroachment of the progressive ideology on our joys and freedoms. I figured I'd see the last of them when I left their boards. I didn't realize the enemy would follow me to this little oasis. Maybe if they would explain why 1997 progresseivism* is so different from 2015 progresseivism, I might understand their point better.

* "The New Gilded Age", as I've dubbed it.

More political strawmanning.
 
You know that if the net neutrality stuff didn't pass and if (and I'm saying 'if', not that it absolutely would happen), as a result, Jon's ISP fucked with his internet in the way that supporters of net neutrality feared, he would immediately blame Obama and those goddamn liberals for trying to control the internet. ("Nuh uh uh! You is not goes to dat website!")
 
"I talked about them here to show my brother AJM'es what it is we're fighting against-- the encroachment of the progressive ideology on our joys and freedoms."

Hey, guys, remember how we ran around stomping on everyone's joys and freedoms? Man, we could've gone with waterboarding and burning down all libraries and theaters showing decadent, anti-party movies, but no - we wanted to do something REALLY devastating! We talked about them on a forum!

Dag!

Marty McFly said:
I wasn't going to say anything because I didn't want to involve this board with the crossfire but after that horrid thing you said to Treenbeen, I don't care anymore: Nobody liked your comic. They were just telling you "good job" because they were being polite. You are not a good artist by any stretch of the imagination, otherwise you would have acknowledged my challenge:

"Oh yeah? How about showing your work on www.conceptart.org? That's where a lot of comic book artists gather around. If they like what they see, I will not only eat my words but a cardboard box as well on video."

Prove me wrong.

Nice hit, Marty!

Btw, folks, is anyone still archiving this?
 
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I'm not.

They embody the progressive ideology we've come to fear. I've spoken to the mods about our new guests, and how they're affecting morale here, and I think they'll come to a fair decision.

Net neutrality is a bad idea. They're putting the government in charge of our Internet, just like the old Ma Bell network. Who's to say they won't start fining owners or outright banning sites they consider objectionable (as in, critical of the regime President Obama)? As a site owner and a person who likes to watch the shows I can't have on TV online, this concerns me deeply. I worry I'm going to find myself getting severely cut back under the new rules.

CliffNotes version: Jonny-boy's run out of strawmen arguments and now wants the mods to clean up his mess for him, worried he can't watch shitty 80s TV online anymore

Edit: And HSMOF absolutely wrecks him in the next post. Beautiful.
 
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