🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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"they've been using the same tired jokes and pranks for nearly twenty stinking years."

Holy shit, guys, we've been Kiwi Farming since 1995?! News to me!

Unless he's lumping "Ashleigh" in with us.

Oh. Oh dear. That's what he's doing, isn't it?

Except he thinks "Ashleigh" is real.

Sweet, your complete inability to be logical has bamboozled me again.
 
Harry S. Plinkett said:
"they've been using the same tired jokes and pranks for nearly twenty stinking years."
We're the clingy and obsessive ones, guys.
 
Looks like more of a veiled insinuation than an outright threat, but he's certainly implying that the "trolls" are at risk of violence or death.

He has made more explicit threats before. My favourite was him saying how easily he could shock one of us with a taser, put us in a van, drive to an abandoned warehouse and set us on fire - which is hilarious because he doesn't know where any of us live, and he can't drive
Of course he's too much of a nancy to actually come here so his threats, like him as a person, are fairly wack.

The Fuck? Does he think he's the Joker or some shit? When most people make death threats they just threaten to shoot you or something, they don't come up with overly complicated and elaborate scenario's like some cackling super villain .
Joker has green hair. Probably makes him too much of a minority for him to be cool with him.
 
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Yeah, that's a good analogy to a supervillain. Sweet basically expects us to be thankful he isn't one.

Jonathan M. Sweet said:
. I helped Mom into the house, examined her injuries, and then called the police and the ambulance. I'm confident I did the right thing. I could have made things "worse" by acting out and attacking those punks--did the CWIcki Koalas ever think of that? Imagine how "that "would have haunted me, morons. And suppose any injuries I took in a fight made me "ten times" the bitter, angry loner I am now, hm? Your heads could be on pikes in my backyard right now...or they could be finding your charred corpses in a burned-out warehouse downtown. A cattle prod, an unmarked panel van, some kerosene, and a couple of strong, dumb accomplices who don't ask a lot of questions-- yes, it could be "very" easily done. I'm only sorry these punks were never identified or caught. Maybe that's why I now keep "very "thorough enemies lists, with home and workplace addresses, phone numbers, and photos-- because I want everyone to "know "who hurt me so that "they can never do such a thing to "

Read more: http://usaspatriot.proboards.com/thread/1393?page=55#ixzz3Pf9nDqVE
I also noticed something about the description of the gang attack on his mother. I thought Sweet called 911 during the attack. The way he tells it in the post I quoted, he only called after he'd helped his mother into the house.

This suggests that while the assault was underway, Sweet actually did nothing. He didn't call for help, he didn't run to his mother's aid...he did nothing.
 
I also noticed something about the description of the gang attack on his mother. I thought Sweet called 911 during the attack. The way he tells it in the post I quoted, he only called after he'd helped his mother into the house.

This suggests that while the assault was underway, Sweet actually did nothing. He didn't call for help, he didn't run to his mother's aid...he did nothing.
Seriously? No jokes or nothing but that's absolutely fucked. All he had to do is call 911 and go out and try to help her from this (from the way it reads) gangland beatdown. But apparently he just waited it out? He can fuck himself for this coward ass bullshit.
 
Are we even sure this alleged assault happened and isn't just some story Sweets made up to justify hating black people?
 
Are we even sure this alleged assault happened and isn't just some story Sweets made up to justify hating black people?
At this point, I'm not even sure if Arkansas is real. All of Sweetiekins's stories read like a fever dream. Or a five-year-old's alibi.
 
He has made more explicit threats before. My favourite was him saying how easily he could shock one of us with a taser, put us in a van, drive to an abandoned warehouse and set us on fire - which is hilarious because he doesn't know where any of us live, and he can't drive
Well, he did mention having a couple of "strong, dumb thugs" to help him out with his theoretical project. So I'm guessing the thugs would not only be the ones manhandling the victims into the unmarked van, as it's been established that Sweetums is a ninety-pound weakling, they would also be driving the van to the abandoned warehouse. So what exactly would Sweetie be doing, pouring the kerosene and lighting the match? I have severe doubts he could even do that much without fucking it up and then blaming his failure on someone else.
 
Are we even sure this alleged assault happened and isn't just some story Sweets made up to justify hating black people?
Personally I believe it. Sweet has a Chris-like tendency to be HONEST about things that make him look bad. When he does try to hide the truth it's usually by omission or exaggeration.
 
How would Sweetums even convince any strong, dumb thugs (suddenly everyone sounds like Marijan) to do anything he said? He's not exactly an inspiring leader, let alone someone with offline friends, and it's not like he could possibly make enough off his can-collecting empire to put even one thug on the payroll in amounts that would also guarantee the thug's silence. Because if there's one thing I've learned reading true-crime books as my trash reading, it's that even people who make money from being involved in someone else's crime suddenly throw the mastermind (and here I use that term very loosely) right under the bus the minute they themselves wind up in legal trouble. If Sweets himself were writing the dialogue, it would go, "Nuh nuh nuh! Me not first one think of set Kiwis on fire! Hims is has plans!"
 
Well, he did mention having a couple of "strong, dumb thugs" to help him out with his theoretical project. So I'm guessing the thugs would not only be the ones manhandling the victims into the unmarked van, as it's been established that Sweetums is a ninety-pound weakling, they would also be driving the van to the abandoned warehouse. So what exactly would Sweetie be doing, pouring the kerosene and lighting the match? I have severe doubts he could even do that much without fucking it up and then blaming his failure on someone else.
"Strong dumb thugs." Nothing racist behind that statement.
 
Honestly, I don't think there is, shockingly enough. If only because it would otherwise imply Sweets being willing to employ/work with a minority.
 
Honestly, I don't think there is, shockingly enough. If only because it would otherwise imply Sweets being willing to employ/work with a minority.

Yeah, in murder. Try getting him to hire a huge, solidly built Black guy to do his taxes... that he doesn't pay because he collects cans, leeches off Mom, and otherwise finds ways not to have a job... to, uh, do his mom's taxes.
 
I also noticed something about the description of the gang attack on his mother. I thought Sweet called 911 during the attack. The way he tells it in the post I quoted, he only called after he'd helped his mother into the house.

This suggests that while the assault was underway, Sweet actually did nothing. He didn't call for help, he didn't run to his mother's aid...he did nothing.

Damn. You're right. In addition, though this is a relatively minor point, his stipulation that "I helped Mom into the house" implies that his mom's injuries were so bad that she couldn't make it into the house on her own. Therefore, Sweet would have come out only when he thought it was safe to do so, while his mother either stumbled up to the house or laid injured outside. I mean, I know that sounds obvious, and I don't mean to pile on, but when you think about it ... damn.

As for his safely-ensconced-behind-the-internet bravado:

" I'm confident I did the right thing."

Mm-hm. You protected the most important person in the world: Jon Sweet.

"I could have made things "worse" by acting out and attacking those punks--did the CWIcki Koalas ever think of that?"

Or you could have tried to help your mother.

"Imagine how "that "would have haunted me, morons. And suppose any injuries I took in a fight made me "ten times" the bitter, angry loner I am now, hm?"

Ah, no, Jon, you're forgetting one of the trademark aspects that makes The Iconoclast what he is: A brazen, quivering coward. Any injuries you would take in a fight would make you so utterly terrified of getting beaten again, you'd go into cold sweats whenever you went on the internet.

"Your heads could be on pikes in my backyard right now...or they could be finding your charred corpses in a burned-out warehouse downtown. A cattle prod, an unmarked panel van, some kerosene,"

No, no, Jon, buddy - You are utterly ineffective. You are the very picture of incompetence. Broken things - busted out CRTs, torn clothing, condoms with the tips cut off - are more capable of success than you.

"and a couple of strong, dumb accomplices who don't ask a lot of questions--"

Hm-mm. No one likes you. And you couldn't pay them anyway. See "ineffective" above.

"yes, it could be "very" easily done."

Hey, Jon - what's my address?

"I'm only sorry these punks were never identified or caught."

Perhaps if there were someone out there to identify them, other than your mother...

"Maybe that's why I now keep "very "thorough enemies lists, with home and workplace addresses, phone numbers, and photos-- because I want everyone to "know "who hurt me so that "

That's good. Say, how's Ashleigh doing? You've gotten in contact with her, yes? And what about those evil slobs at the Herald? Certainly, they can't do anything to hurt you further? Like, I dunno, keeping you off campus? Living a far more successful life than you?
Ooh, ooh, about that list - Do you have your little brother written down there? I mean, just in case you forget where he lives - which would be your house. Y'know, the place where he typically beats you up? The place where he leaves you "starving like a dog for days" (heeheeheeheehee oh that tickles me!)
Don't feed the Jon.jpeg
If you want some violent revenge, maybe you should start with him and see what happens?
 
Y'know, Sweet is one of the few Cows that writes ramblings I can read without my eyes glazing over, or becoming unreasonably angry, so I'd like to take the time to dissect this a bit:

In which Sweet thinks the Kiwi Farms are some sort of collective hive mind:
  1. Well, I promised with my last entry I'd discuss more in-depth the bully culture. It took me a while, though, and several false starts and aborted drafts to find the right words. Those words, of course, being their own-- so here goes. From a member of the CWCki forums, with appropriate comments and piping to highlight the hypocrisy of the bully mentality:

  2. I don't pick on Chris; I've never had any contact with him whatsoever. I've never trolled him, just like I haven't trolled you....You're an LOLcow that matches the thinking and behavior of Chris and I found that mildly interesting. Honestly, I had forgotten about you completely until you started posting here.
  3. Am I personally happy? If I wasn't, you would use that as a cudgel, instead of an opportunity to help me out, the exact opposite of what I and othershave tried to do with you over the last 29 pages.


  4. (BLOGGER'S NOTE: If that's what you consider "helping", then stay as far away from me as possible. There's something dangerously, stupidly wrong with people who look at abuse and identity theft as funny.)
  1. Has anyone on these forums actually committed identity theft? I seriously doubt it. If he actually read these forums he could find numerous examples of people offering helpful advice to lolcows. It's just that the lolcows never accept the advice and, understandably, the Kiwis give up and just enjoy the ride.

  2. [*]

    [*] ...The vast majority of us would rather see Chris get his life turned around than fail. Even Marvin is worried about Chris's situation with his mother.
    [*]

    [*](BLOGGER'S NOTE: Oh, yes, the man who ruined Chris' maybe one moment of normalcy for the sake of a cheap gag worries about him now. Again, with friends like you, who needs enemies? The thing about bullies is they always tell you they have your best interests in mind. When they scream at you, beat you, and steal your money, or play their constant mind games and emotional blackmail, complete with the huge crocodile tears, it's always out of love. They want to help you. Why, they're doing you afavor with their abuse, and you're just too stupid and ungrateful to see it. I don't need that kind of "favor". I've long stopped listening to people who come along with some shiny new idea to make my life better (while conveniently ignoring what I want) for that reason-- it invariably ends in tears. I follow my own heart now.)
Sweet, some introspection would help you here; if you seriously took into account peoples' advice, and thoughtfully examined what you really want, and (and this is probably the most important part) the steps a person must take to achieve those goals (and do some real research, not your typical Sweetian mental gymnastics and leaps of logic), you might get somewhere. Also, no one on the Kiwi Farms ruined Chris' life. He handled that himself quite impressively.
  1. [*]You're trying to help Chris, you say, but his life has progressively gotten worse. Admit it-- nothing you'd done has made Chris' life any better by design. You'd be perfectly happy to see Chris give up on everything, never make another Sonichu comic, spend the rest of his life complacently playing with Legos in his room, utterly divorced from reality, aimlessly drifting further into the void, because five or six grand is a small expense to just keep an overgrown manbaby quiet and out of your hair, right? You're not only bullies, but classic enablers.

  2. "Enablers"? Us? LOL. His comic wasn't ever going to get him anywhere. There's nothing wrong with having a pet project, even one that will never be more than scribblings on paper in a drawer in your desk, but the key here is to be realistic. Also, I daresay Chris has made more money off of Sonichu than Sweet ever will from his "Belch Dimension" or whatever the fuck he calls it. Like, what the fuck are you even talking about? He was always going to be a manbaby playing with Legos in his room, you fucking retard! If anything, it was trolls who tried desperately to get him to do something with his life; VivianG, Jackie, numerous others have tried to convince him to get a job, to get serious about Sonichu and look into publishing venues, to do SOMETHING other than sit around and play vidya and build legos.


  1. I myself have benefited from reading the posts in the Mental Illness Thread because I struggle with clinical depression and my self-consciousness about it.

  2. (BLOGGER'S NOTE: Bully for you--er, no pun intended. I have great respect for the mental health profession; however, I despise people like this who abuse its benefits and turn it into a cheap ploy to silence and get rid of detractors.)
So why don't you get some professional mental help!?

  1. I don't spend my life screaming, "Get a job!"... Sometimes I get annoyed with my boss, or anxious about my future prospects or getting laid off or fired or losing benefits and all the s--- that everyone who works deals with from time to time.


  2. (BLOGGER'S NOTE: Really? You've had a coworker who plotted against you and got you kicked out of school, , a boss who was not only a drooling incompetent but pretty much skipped town to get away from you, then on top of that, as a huge slap in your face, reopened the store 2000 miles away; or two bosses who got into a dispute with one another that ended up costing you not only a good job, but a prime apartment right behind the shop? I think my experience is a li-iiii-iiii-ii-ittle more involved than yours, pal.)
Bro that was like fifteen years ago. Stop being such a fucking victim and man the fuck up. I'm gonna go ahead and say there's one common thread between all of your misadventures at work, and that's you, Sweet. Introspection. You should look into it.
  1. .
  2. [*] But on balance, being employed is worth the sense of accomplishment, self-respect, independence, self-sufficiency, and purpose. Being able to pay my bills with the money I've earned pays dividends (pun unintended) in multiple areas of my life.
    [*]

    [*](BLOGGER'S NOTE: Sure, I can see that. I was happiest when I was employed... but I have to ask myself, are these nominal rewards worth the constant browbeating, resentment, and abuse I face daily from employers, fellow coworkers, and customers? Besides, you guys pretty much told me I'm not good enough to have any job where I get treated with any respect, have to deal with customers on a daily basis, or can actually use the skills I was taught in school. So why bother? I make more collecting cans than I ever did on all three of those jobs anyhow, and out on the road I have a lot more freedom and happiness than an easily-replaceable cookie-cutter cubicle drone like you could ever dream of.
I'd like to know Sweet's definition of "browbeating" and "abuse". I assume it includes things like "We're paying you to do [x]. Stop sitting around and get to work." And as for "using the skills you learned in school", well, life's not fair. At the risk of revealing my power level: I have TWO Bachelor's degrees. Know what I'm doing with them? I'm about to start working in a supermarket. But I'm not going to sit here and bitch about my lot in life. Instead, I'm going to figure out ways to improve it, like, say, getting a Master's in TESOL so I can become a teacher in a couple years.

  1. Then a lot of blah-blah about sticking with it, hanging in there despite all odds, self-improvement, being alive, yadda-yadda-yadda....)

  2. TL; DR: don't confuse us with ED....

  3. (BLOGGER'S NOTE: No, not a guy named Ed-- the former Encyclopedia Dramatica. You know, these morons. And why not? You're pretty much the same people. I can tell by the grammar, syntax, style, and recycling of certain pet phrases in your posts.)
False.
  1. In closing, the CWCki Koalas stretch logic every which way to compare me to Chris-Chan, but what they're really doing is telling everyone that they've been using the same tired jokes and pranks for nearly twenty stinking years. I think if the victims of their cruelty got together and compared notes, figured out the playbook, and made the information available to other perspective victims (oh wait, the morons doing this stupid crap already did--smooth move, Ex-Lax!), they'd be in serious trouble. At best no one would listen to them or fall for their tricks; at worse, they'd finally pull a dumb gag on the absolute wrong person and end up in jail, in a hospital, or on a slab in the morgue. Call it "Kick the Troll", if you like.
  1. Come at us, bro.
I do not know how to get rid of these numbers. I am not good with computer.

EDIT: Oh fuck me these quotes are all kinds of fucked up

EDIT EDIT: I also recognize that addressing Sweet is utterly pointless but it's kind of fun to go through this and comment on these "points" of his.
 
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"and a couple of strong, dumb accomplices who don't ask a lot of questions--"

Hm-mm. No one likes you. And you couldn't pay them anyway. See "ineffective" above.

In other news, HSMOF and I are becoming the same person, whom Sweets will thus have to murder twice. :tomgirl:

Oh yes! Also, burning a body is a lot harder than people think from Hollywood and TV. Like, crematoria have the ability to get many times hotter than the burning temperature of most commonly available accelerants. Sweets doesn't just aspire to be a spree killer. He aspires to be that bumbling spree killer who gets caught half an hour later.
 
I also recognize that addressing Sweet is utterly pointless but it's kind of fun to go through this and comment on these "points" of his.

Totally understand where you're coming from, man.

In other news, HSMOF and I are becoming the same person, whom Sweets will thus have to murder twice. :tomgirl:

Well, I mean, we're the Kiwi Hydra. Cut off one head, the other grows back!
 
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