🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Mogambo said:
Honestly, I feel a lot of the Aquaman hate comes from Family Guy and other pop culture mediums. Especially when many of the people are more or less unfamiliar with the character in the first place. Aquaman has definitely had some moments. Geoff Johns' Aquaman was probably one of the high points of the New 52.

Oh, and I guess I'll call dibs on Animal Man because hell yeah!
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Most of the Aquaman hate comes from the old Super Friends episodes. In those the only power he ever used (and as far as the writers were concerned, had) was the ability to talk to fish. That's it.
 
I call Firestorm.
 
Iconoclast had a CWCki account as mentioned before on ED. Here's one for a start.

http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:DrShoggoth&diff=prev&oldid=131358

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Wow, his introduction is almost like Chris's in his early years.

PS - I'm Ultraman. I don't care if he's not in the Justice League, I'M ULTRAMAN.
 
>tfw probably Aquaman

Seriously though, I'm probably echoing once again what's already been said, but I hope Iconoclast realizes that unless he does embrace at least some change and take some initiative, he's probably going to still be living with his mom while dealing with an abusive (at least from what he's told us) brother, little or no control over his personal finances, while pining away for a place and time that's not coming back, indefinitely. I'd be happy for him if I hear that he took the initiative and all that for the better.
 
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The_Iconoclast said:
I have a strategy for debating: wear down my opponent with every conceivable counter-argument so they tire and lose focus, get them screaming and red-faced, and then record their angry responses for use later. Thus, people get a change to see what gibbering buffoons my enemies are, and they become that much easier to take down. If I do this enough I can get more fellow patriots rallying behind me to turn back this nation I love from the cliff. It's time for retrogress in America, not progress. By getting the wrong people out of power we can start the Herculean task of dialing back twenty years of poison change (like the TV ratings system that caused all my problems to start with).

I have already spent enough money on that worthless DTV box, including a second antenna when the first conked out. I've done everything I can to milk more channels out of it. I'm done. I'm not buying another remote. I'll just save my money and buy a dish, or simply watch my shows online. So, Europe is switching from analog to DTV, huh? Big mistake. Wait until they realize they're going to lose most of their favorite channels. France will be on fire again. Plus ca change? The essence of liberalism. La changement est mauvais.

I don't buy the argument that failure is somehow noble and should be embraced. Every time I've screwed up, my punishments got worse and worse. After my journalism career tanking and two shops folding, I'm afraid to try for another job because I can't imagine how bad the punishment for failing will be this time. Deeper debt? Fewer freedoms? More beatings? Jail? Maybe wind up crippled for life, or even killed? No, I don't think so. If I do move on, it will be on my terms, knowing every rule, learning every angle, eliminating every possibility of loss or failure. That's the only way.

Look, the bar scene may work for some, but it isn't for me. I don't drink, I don't have the money to go to such places even if I did, my voice is very scratchy and broken due to ill health, so I don't want to have to try and yell over a bunch of bar noise, and even without all that I couldn't go out anyway, as my brother only allows us to use the car on Sunday mornings. Besides, for every one successful bar hookup story there must be ten bar pickup horror stories. not worth the odds. (Admittedly, Chris is a worst-case scenario, but Bob could have found a better place to meet women.) That's why I like college relationships. They're perfect. Since they're mostly conducted by phone, you get to stay in, you don't have to take the girl out and spend money on her, or even speak to them if you don't want to. You can go three, four hours and not say a dozen words to one another, if you know what I mean. After six months to a year of phone fun, you agree to meet in person. That's the college system. It's how we men lived, and how we were taught. And it generally works, even if the girl they paired we with was a little off. I think I'm ready to try it again. Now that I know the rules, I believe I can make it work.
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I've never been in a relationship, but isn't the whole point of one spending time WITH them? Not going out with them and not wanting to talk to them for certain amounts of time?

Am I missing something here?

Edit: And yes, I am aware I'm late for the party.
 
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scorptatious said:
I've never been in a relationship, but isn't the whole point of one spending time WITH them? Not going out with them and not wanting to talk to them for certain amounts of time?

Am I missing something here?

Edit: And yes, I am aware I'm late for the party.
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Well he thinks in college you never talk to someone and just fuck in bathroom stalls or whatever. That's how relationships should be. Bit misogynistic but when you consider Al Bundy a positive role model it isn't surprising.

Lefty's Revenge said:
Question for you guys though as Iconoclasts edit made me wonder. As of right now, who would you consider to be more pathetic/ the bigger loser: Chris or Iconoclast?
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Have to be honest, Iconoclast. They're pretty even in patheticness and they are both broken husks of men. Iconoclast has just been at it longer. He's been a brooding retard since the late 90's. He wins with longevity.
 
Lefty's Revenge said:
Question for you guys though as Iconoclasts edit made me wonder. As of right now, who would you consider to be more pathetic/ the bigger loser: Chris or Iconoclast?
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I say @The_Iconoclast is more pathetic. Iconoclast has made the choice to the loser that he is, time and time again. I find him way more petty, condescending and ego centric than Chris. Iconoclast also claims not to be autistic or have any problems, so why the hell is he living a sub-Chris life? Face it, Chris is held back by his austism and Barb; Iconoclast on the other hand is held back by nothing. His mom even offered to get him an apartment, but he doesn't want to move out unless it's next to ASU.
 
Lefty's Revenge said:
Question for you guys though as Iconoclasts edit made me wonder. As of right now, who would you consider to be more pathetic/ the bigger loser: Chris or Iconoclast?
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Chris is a big organically-grown ball of lack of talent. He's a terrible artist, but he honestly believes he's as good as he can get and brilliant in every way.
Iconoclast? Not entirely terrible writer and could go to places if he kept practising. Just a notch better artist than Chris, which isn't saying much obviously. But he's resisting all kinds of advice, and it looks like this is pretty goddamn colossal part of his routine. He's deliberately and consciously terrible and nothing is his fault.
So they're both about as pathetic, but Iconoclast is definitely squandering his opportunities much harder and with bigger malice.
 
Made an incomplete page for Belch Dimension Comics on the BWW. After looking at the first issue, knowing it only gets worse as it goes on, holy fuck is this comic horrendous. Remember when I said that the artwork was only slightly better than Sonichu? So are the writing, plot, and characters. I've actually requested some help on the BWW thread since I just don't think I can do this atrocity justice on my own, especially in my first review on the site.
 
Lefty's Revenge said:
Question for you guys though as Iconoclasts edit made me wonder. As of right now, who would you consider to be more pathetic/ the bigger loser: Chris or Iconoclast?
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Chris has shown that he's willing to try new things and make attempts to get that sweet sweet china. Iconoclast would rather live the same routine in the past following some sort of nonexistent "rules".

RetardBus said:
Made an incomplete page for Belch Dimension Comics on the BWW. After looking at the first issue, knowing it only gets worse as it goes on, holy fuck is this comic horrendous. Remember when I said that the artwork was only slightly better than Sonichu? So are the writing, plot, and characters. I've actually requested some help on the BWW thread since I just don't think I can do this atrocity justice on my own, especially in my first review on the site.
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Best of luck.
 
I'm making a lot of progress on the BWW review of Belch Dimension Comics. Expect to see it up sometime soon.
 
ShittyRecolor said:
You're absolutely right, and Iconoclast's attitude pretty much highlights how a lot of people view conservatism incorrectly. At its core, conservatism isn't meant to be about grinding progression to a halt, but about letting change happen naturally rather than arbitrarily speeding it up.
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The idea of societal change happening "naturally" is dialectical materialism, popularized by a dude who is not remembered as a conservative.

NIA-DOA 2.0 said:
I know he isn't posting anymore, but he is still lurking on the forums? Ya know, to spy against us liberal, commie, islamic, fascist cyber-bullies?
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He hasn't signed into his account since he last posted, but he may be lurking as a guest. I kind of doubt it though.

WWWWolf said:
Chris is a big organically-grown ball of lack of talent. He's a terrible artist, but he honestly believes he's as good as he can get and brilliant in every way.
Iconoclast? Not entirely terrible writer and could go to places if he kept practising. Just a notch better artist than Chris, which isn't saying much obviously. But he's resisting all kinds of advice, and it looks like this is pretty goddamn colossal part of his routine. He's deliberately and consciously terrible and nothing is his fault.
So they're both about as pathetic, but Iconoclast is definitely squandering his opportunities much harder and with bigger malice.
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Yeah, since he has more potential than Chris, his waste of it is more pathetic. Realistically the best life one could expect Chris to have is one where he would still be eligable for a :tugboat:due to his cognitive disabilities that he was born with. If Iconoclast hadn't fallen so far down the crazy hole, I could see him as a journalist of some sort (putting aside how that industry has been hemorrhaging jobs). He was a writer for his university's newspaper, so he was demonstrably capable of producing something valuable to other people at one point in his life.

DrChristianTroy said:
Now that that's out of the way, dibs on Batman.
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I'm Batman.
 
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When Iconoclast said he found the voices on MLP soothing, I wish someone would have responded with "So, they sound like farts?"
 
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