🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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melty said:
I haven't been to this thread in a few months. Any new happenings? Did he ever take the "diamond" to get appraised? Or just more of the same shit?
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We figured it was a piece of glass from a headlight, and since he reads us obsessively, that was the last we heard of it. He did claim he'd be back at ASU by this fall, but that of course did not happen. Other than that, it's the same. He hates change after all. The only way something new will happen is if someone else acts upon him.
 
DrJonesHat said:
We figured it was a piece of glass from a headlight, and since he reads us obsessively, that was the last we heard of it. He did claim he'd be back at ASU by this fall, but that of course did not happen. Other than that, it's the same. He hates change after all. The only way something new will happen is if someone else acts upon him.
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I figured as much, but every once in awhile he comes up with something. The last stories I read were the diamond and his explanation about why he has so many cobwebs in his house, those were both pretty hilarious.
 
DrJonesHat said:
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Don't forget lolcows!
 
I like that he had to slap a different picture over your avatar before he could post that screengrab in his journal. Poor baby must be sensitive about his misshapen head. And what exactly prompted him to bring up Tin Boo Tee again? Swear to god, what passes for the guy's brain is powered by nonsensium.
 
Shadow Fox said:
I like that he had to slap a different picture over your avatar before he could post that screengrab in his journal. Poor baby must be sensitive about his misshapen head. And what exactly prompted him to bring up Tin Boo Tee again? Swear to god, what passes for the guy's brain is powered by nonsensium.
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Yeah, I saw that too. He knows he's unappealing, he just doesn't want to admit it. As for Tin Boo Tee, I think that it's something that he's latched onto (autism), and is simply too stubborn to admit that 1. it's a stupid name, and 2. he looks foolish for advancing it. He just doesn't want to lose a fight he lost quite some time ago.
 
Shadow Fox said:
like that he had to slap a different picture over your avatar before he could post that screengrab in his journal. Poor baby must be sensitive about his misshapen head.
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I guess I didn't pay much attention to it the first time, but I think the photo is of the Final Boss, his former editor at The Herald.
 
Sweets said:
Anyway, it is similar to a television production code, because I saw how they do it, and liked it... but comic companies also use production numbers -- just look at that little string of digits in the margin the next time you pick up a comic book
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Way to bring up an extreme niche occurrence to support your case. I've never read any "Loony Tunes" comics before, but usually comics are sorted by title, volume number, issue number, year and month, in that order. The production numbers he refers to are in use pretty much by that book as far as I can tell. He probably has more examples of these, but I have a shelves and long boxes full of proof that it is a tiny minority.

Sweets said:
No, there's no real industry standard for comic scripts
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Sweets isn't wrong, but it's not for the reasons he thinks. There's actually several different way to produce and write comics. Many writers use whatever they need to to convey to the artist what needs to be drawn. Some or overly detailed telling the artist exactly what to draw, some are sparse leaving the artist to come up with the direction, neither of these would be anything like a script for television. Also there's the famous "Marvel Way" where the writer gives artist an outline and upon receiving the page art writes the dialogue.

Sweets said:
and as a lot of professional comic writers also work in film and TV, they probably use those terms or similar ones.
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This simply isn't true. There are cross-over writers to film and TV, but there's many more comic writers that just write comics, and some that are professional comedians. Hell, I just listened to a podcast where I found out the current writer of "Daredevil" and several other books on the shelves is an immigration lawyer. All will see to write fit for their artist, I'd guess hardly any to zero write scripts in the same way for comics that they do for television/film.
 
atomik fyre said:
This simply isn't true. There are cross-over writers to film and TV, but there's many more comic writers that just write comics, and some that are professional comedians. Hell, I just listened to a podcast where I found out the current writer of "Daredevil" and several other books on the shelves is an immigration lawyer. All will see to write fit for their artist, I'd guess hardly any to zero write scripts in the same way for comics that they do for television/film.
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Yeah, he's just using his ignorance (note the word "probably") to cover for the fact that he doesn't know what industry standards are (flexible as they may be in the case of comics).
 
He Sets Me On Fire said:
A bit of back-and-forth between me and the Albino Ape:

http://archive.is/vhnOC
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Sweet's defense for using screenplay terminology when writing a comic is -- let's be frank -- really, really stupid. The kind of stupid that indicates an IQ in the 80s.

"Some people work in both comics and film. Therefor, when they work in comics, they use screenplay terminology." This is how truly special people think.

You know who does even more work in film than comics artists? Novelists. But I've never seen a novelist use "cut to" or "match dissolve" or "L cut" or "jump cut" to transition between scenes or chapters. But using Sweet's brand of logic, they must do it all the time, because, after all, they work in both fields.

The best aspect of Sweet's use of film terminology when writing comics is that he's using the film terminology incorrectly. In a spec script or a first draft of a commissioned script, the writer does not include any transition instructions. Those decisions are made by the director when a production script is prepared. And even then, "cut to" is not used; "cut to" is the default transition and doesn't need to be stated, unlike, say, "J cut" or "L cut" or "match cut" and so on.

And, finally, here's what a comic script actually looks like. (And here's another.) They look nothing like a script for a movie or TV show.

Holdek said:
I guess I didn't pay much attention to it the first time, but I think the photo is of the Final Boss, his former editor at The Herald.
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The I-know-who-you-are delusion is another characteristic symptom that Sweet shares with his cousin Shaner. Their tormentors must be people they know who hold some kind of grudge; it's simply impossible that Shaner and Sweet -- both self-proclaimed geniuses -- are so exceptional that random people on the internet are making fun of them.
 
He Sets Me On Fire said:
A bit of back-and-forth between me and the Albino Ape:

http://archive.is/vhnOC
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I salute you.

Especially commendable was the following apt description: "No, the truth is that that guy has a jawline, defined chin, a good head of hair, and doesn't look like someone tried to make a Mr. Potato Head out of a giant tumor. In short, he looks nothing like you."

This also amused me quite a bit:
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HaggisMcCrablice 5 hours ago Hobbyist Writer

>>"Gifted class" sounds like just the kind of thing a parent tells a special ed student when they have to take a special ed class.... Again, you're borderline retarded.
Again, writing [sic] and stupid. There's nothing wrong with me. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about; do yourself a favor and stop trying. It was an enriched class for helping students to learn to think out [sic] the box. We designed adn [sic] solved puzzles, riddles and word games, built little balsa wood pyramids for experiments . . .
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So, in his gifted and talented class, Sweet and his fellow geniuses built "little balsa wood pyramids."

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Wow! That's impressive . . . for a kindergartner. In middle school, it screams "I'm a special ed seventh-grader!" And performing "experiments" to test the magical properties of pyramids is an exercise obviously designed to keep the slow kids occupied.

Meanwhile, here's what the seventh-grade boys with even slightly better-than-average intellects and average motor skills -- i.e., not in Sweet's "enriched class" of super geniuses -- were making out of balsa wood:

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Further, I think is was exceedingly cruel of the special ed teacher to force Jon and the other slow kids to put on plays so the normal children could laugh at them. That's got to be some kind of abuse, even in Arkansas.

As for Sweet's reply about the letters he claims to be sending out:
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HaggisMcCrablice Edited 3 hours ago Hobbyist Writer

I never said about....

Never assume anything, H.S.

Edit: Link fixed-a-rooskie.
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I interpret that to mean that he is sending a letter to the person he stupidly believes you to be. The fact that there is more than one letter -- or so he threatens -- should lead to some interesting results. I wonder if Sweet will have internet access in prison.

EDIT: A few additional comments and images added to increase the level of mockery.
 
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Dr. Merkwurdichliebe said:
I salute you.

Especially commendable was the following apt description: "No, the truth is that that guy has a jawline, defined chin, a good head of hair, and doesn't look like someone tried to make a Mr. Potato Head out of a giant tumor. In short, he looks nothing like you."

As for Sweet's reply about the letters he claims to be sending out:
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HaggisMcCrablice Edited 3 hours ago Hobbyist Writer

I never said about....

Never assume anything, H.S.

Edit: Link fixed-a-rooskie.
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I interpret that to mean that he is sending a letter to the person he stupidly believes you to be. The fact that there is more than one letter -- or so he threatens -- should lead to some interesting results. I wonder if Sweet will have internet access in prison.
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Thank you, sir! About the letters, in all honesty, I think he's just bluffing. Jon gets his dander up, but words are all he has. This is a 41 year-old man utterly devoid of agency. Even if he intended to carry out his "threat" (which would be downright hilarious!), I'm sure at some point he'd run into Ma Sweet, who'd tell him to calm down and stop whining about writing letters. Even if he's so hopelessly stupid as to not comprehend how much trouble he could get in, his mom likely isn't. It's fun to watch him squeal, though. He's so powerless, it's funny.
 
You know, had Sweet just said "I've never been to special ed classes" and left it at that, we wouldn't have learned some new details about him.

But instead, Sweet said "I've never been to special ed classes. I went to an enrichment class where I made balsa pyramids." Truly we're dealing with a conservative genius here.
 
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