🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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He probably got by with a C average. Not hard to get one of those. Of course, maybe he did passable work in college and just doesn't give two shits now, so he pumps out complete crap. I don't think he cares much about anything anymore so quality control isn't on his mind. Demotivation is a symptom of depression, and I'd lay money on Sweet having a moderate case of it.
 
This is just a minor pet peeve to me, but I can't stand the inconsistencies with Sweet's artwork in how some of his characters are just plain stick figures and the others have fully drawn arms and legs. I remember he gave an excuse for it - a very poor one, but an excuse nonetheless - but it still irritates me. One thing that's important in any type of visually-driven narrative (such as a comic) is consistency, and just seeing two jarringly different character designs just makes his work seem even more haphazard than it already is.

Either make them all stick figures or don't, Sweets. At least Chris is consistently terrible with his Sonichus.
 
Either make them all stick figures or don't, Sweets.
On the cover of the "summer camp" issue, the stick legs of Jonichu disappear against the background almost completely, and it makes him look like a piss-yellow, hovering ghost that has inexplicably decided to haunt a pair of red shoes, even though his stick feet could never put them on and dance the blues.
 
Maybe Sweet is using it like it's used for some foreign languages to denote a pause?

[stick figures]
I remember a comic with some guy running down a hallway or something. The black stick figure body blended in with the dark background, making it almost look like a disembodied head (or wad of something) was floating down the hallway. Also, I think it was an aping of homage to some old cartoon with a similar gag.
 
Theory on the steak issue:

There's a "Steak and Cheese" Hot Pocket variety. Sweet eats Hot Pockets all the time. At ASU they probably served sliced steak as something you could put on a sandwich, like a Philly Cheesesteak, and this may be what he's talking about. Doesn't mean he was served filet minion in the "caf" though.

(I have no idea where he got the quail idea, though, unless it's just something he misidentified. Several species are domesticated and raised as livestock, and it's usually not a delicacy, yet it's uncommon to serve in the US because chickens and turkeys yield a lot more meat.)
Just an update....in his latest post his comic references chicken-fried steak, and it being much inferior to porter house. Yet he categorizes porter house as the same quality as quail. So...yeah, I'm not sure. I'm going to stick with my Hot Pockets theory for now, though, since they seem to be a grazing staple of lolcows.
 
Part of me feels so fucking sad for this loser. I don't understand why some people treasure their past so much that they want to crystallize it to a degree that they are completely paralyzed. I mean, I understand the mental mechanics as to how this comes about, but I don't get the rationale. Especially when you're an adult. Especially when you know that dorm you dreamed of moving back into has been demolished.

Shitty childhoods are double-edged swords: they can either make you into someone who wants to constantly progress, or they can cripple you mentally and create...this.
 
Sorry if this was pointed out but I forget details as the thread goes on.
Does Sweet actually have an English degree or was he just going to ASU for an English degree but never finished it?

I know a couple people who have dropped out for various reasons. When asked about what they took in college they just answer that they were studying X subject and leave it at that so they don't have to get out their soapbox and explain their reasons for dropping out.

Their reasons range from being unable to afford it to not being able to justify the cost for the level of education they received, etc. Sweet got kicked out. Though I guess if he didn't get his degree he'd be spouting on about it...

I don't remember Sweet saying he finished his degree at ASU, and I don't remember him speaking about finishing it at another college.

Can anyone refresh my memory?
 
Part of me feels so fucking sad for this loser. I don't understand why some people treasure their past so much that they want to crystallize it to a degree that they are completely paralyzed. I mean, I understand the mental mechanics as to how this comes about, but I don't get the rationale. Especially when you're an adult. Especially when you know that dorm you dreamed of moving back into has been demolished.

Shitty childhoods are double-edged swords: they can either make you into someone who wants to constantly progress, or they can cripple you mentally and create...this.
Sweet thinks, or used to think at least, that his college days were the last time he understood the rules. He thought he was loved (but recent posts have shown he realizes he wasn't), he thought he was a threat to "the system". We've managed to poke holes in his beliefs enough to make him question that time. He's stopped addressing us directly. At first I thought it was because his family finally intervened and forced him into therapy, but he just made a post on his DA account, and Belch Dimension is central to his delusions, so any intervention would have stopped him from drawing more comics. Now, on further analysis, I think he just stopped addressing us because we challenged his fantasy. It's sad, because we're the only people who pay attention to him now since AJM studios shut down (because of him, I might add). So I suspect, sooner or later, he's going to engage with us again, because without us, he literally has no one to talk to.
 
Sorry if this was pointed out but I forget details as the thread goes on.
Does Sweet actually have an English degree or was he just going to ASU for an English degree but never finished it?

I know a couple people who have dropped out for various reasons. When asked about what they took in college they just answer that they were studying X subject and leave it at that so they don't have to get out their soapbox and explain their reasons for dropping out.

Their reasons range from being unable to afford it to not being able to justify the cost for the level of education they received, etc. Sweet got kicked out. Though I guess if he didn't get his degree he'd be spouting on about it...

I don't remember Sweet saying he finished his degree at ASU, and I don't remember him speaking about finishing it at another college.

Can anyone refresh my memory?
We found out he has a legit bach degree for an English major. I seem to recall he dropped out/transferred from a Psych degree prior to it (or lied about that). He was going for a Masters in English when his psychotic behavior got him forced to take a screening, which he refused to do and walked away from college over it. Yes. Jonathan Mack Sweet walked away from college. He wasn't kicked or removed due to conspiracy. The delusional senile manchild conflated his getting kicked from a newspaper over a genuine issue with an event that actually happened a year later.

As for why Jonny is so attached to the place, even though it was actually not that good by college standards, it's because he was that destitute. He was so poor that the college felt like an absolute luxury to him. A TV with no rabbit ears and a big ass screen, a shit ton of channels, real people food rather than Hungry Man, and his own bed in a slightly nicer situation (his house is a fucking wreck). He also thought he had a girlfriend on call even though that was genuinely a troll fucking with him. On top of that, he had people he could force his way into the midst of and chat their heads off. He's an utter hermit now, which helped contribute to his psychosis.
 
We found out he has a legit bach degree for an English major. I seem to recall he dropped out/transferred from a Psych degree prior to it (or lied about that). He was going for a Masters in English when his psychotic behavior got him forced to take a screening, which he refused to do and walked away from college over it. Yes. Jonathan Mack Sweet walked away from college. He wasn't kicked or removed due to conspiracy. The delusional senile manchild conflated his getting kicked from a newspaper over a genuine issue with an event that actually happened a year later.

As for why Jonny is so attached to the place, even though it was actually not that good by college standards, it's because he was that destitute. He was so poor that the college felt like an absolute luxury to him. A TV with no rabbit ears and a big ass screen, a shit ton of channels, real people food rather than Hungry Man, and his own bed in a slightly nicer situation (his house is a fucking wreck). He also thought he had a girlfriend on call even though that was genuinely a troll fucking with him. On top of that, he had people he could force his way into the midst of and chat their heads off. He's an utter hermit now, which helped contribute to his psychosis.
Don't forget the state-of-art computer lab!

To summarize, for those of you just joining us on the Chronic Failure Channel, Sweet was removed from a non-paying position on the ASU Herald (a twice-weekly campus paper, to which he only contributed a few columns, I don't recall how many) for plagiarism. He wrote a very racist column satirizing the then new TV ratings system, the idea of which was blatantly ripped off from Saturday Night Live. When confronted over this, he confessed, and his confession is on file at ASU.

Apparently, he did not realize that confessing would have real and serious consequences, because he was summarily dismissed from the staff of the paper upon confessing, much to his surprise and dismay. He now insists he hasn't seen the sketch, and therefore it doesn't exist. Linking him to clips of it does nothing to convince him, as he thinks he was such a threat to "the System" that he rails against, that he entertains the possibility that NBC colluded with ASU to produce a fake sketch after the fact solely to discredit him.

Upon his dismissal, Sweet embarked on a four-semester campaign of threats and harassment against those whom he felt had wronged him. During this time, Sweet took a creative class, and the instructor quickly realized that all his stories were thinly-disguised revenge fantasies against the Herald staff. Somehow, despite this campaign of sociopathic behavior, Sweet managed to both graduate with a bachelor's degree in English, and get into graduate school, which was part of his plan to be a career student. However, his dream of eternal college life was cut short when the college finally grew tired of his campaign of terror against people for doing their jobs, and ordered him to get a psychological evaluation. He claims it would have cost him $500, however this is in dispute. Regardless, he did not get the evaluation, and he was expelled.

This was not the end of the story. Cast out of the promised land, Sweet began his decent into madness that molded him into the dysfunctional cave-dwelling manchild we know and mock today. He began harassing everyone at ASU he felt was involved in the nebulous conspiracy to kick him out for having conservative views. He began contacting the parents of people he thought had wronged him, and also contacted the employers of people who had pissed him off. His war against ASU resulted in ASU campus police visiting his house at least once, and he has outstanding warrants in the county where ASU is located, however, we haven't been able to find out what they're for. So Sweet now sits and rails at the world on Deviant Art since AJM studios was shut down due to him, and we laugh at him.
 
Especially when you're an adult. Especially when you know that dorm you dreamed of moving back into has been demolished.

I can understand this kind of sentimentality to some degree. Fairly recently, I returned to where I went to college and found a place I lived had been demolished. It was a genuine shithole, full of druggies, degenerates, outright crazy people, and me. It had been replaced with a trendy Thai place where I had lunch, and the feeling was weird.

Years previously, I would have been on the front porch doing bong hits with a couple outrageous drag queens and hurling abuse at passing fratboys for no particular reason. It was hard to imagine that ever happened on the street in its current state. There was even a fucking Starbucks.

But I wouldn't go back to that time if I could.

Somehow, despite this campaign of sociopathic behavior, Sweet managed to both graduate with a bachelor's degree in English, and get into graduate school, which was part of his plan to be a career student.

Do you think he actually earned the degree or did they just give it to him in the vain hope that he'd go away?

Of course it isn't exactly hard to get a degree in English. Seriously, getting a degree in being able to speak your own fucking native tongue is not exactly ambitious. Especially when you look at how pathetically badly Thumbskull writes English.
 
He probably skated by with a C average at best. He's not particularly bright.
 
Part of me feels so fucking sad for this loser. I don't understand why some people treasure their past so much that they want to crystallize it to a degree that they are completely paralyzed. I mean, I understand the mental mechanics as to how this comes about, but I don't get the rationale. Especially when you're an adult. Especially when you know that dorm you dreamed of moving back into has been demolished.

Shitty childhoods are double-edged swords: they can either make you into someone who wants to constantly progress, or they can cripple you mentally and create...this.

His childhood couldn't have been that bad. Both brothers seem like reasonably stable country folk.
 
His childhood couldn't have been that bad. Both brothers seem like reasonably stable country folk.
One did slip into drug use, but he's better now. And that's the best part; Jonny is the eldest brother and the only one who wants to linger in that festering shitpile. He might not want to, but he refuses to do anything that can get him out of it.
 
And of course there's Sweet's recent threats to come after Kiwis with hired goons or an "eight inch bone knife," while still insisting he's a "lovable rascal."

Anyway, that post, along with that "things Sweet really believes" post you made awhile back, should have links to them in the OP.

Also, like you, I had hoped that Sweet was beginning to move beyond his old grudges and delusion of going back to ASU. It may not be that way.
 
At this point, he's destroyed his life beyond repair unless someone wants to make fixing him their full-time occupation. He would need therapy, legal counsel (to deal with those outstanding warrants) and a life skills coach, not to mention a job coach. Unless there's a socialist revolution in the US in the next few years, I don't see such services becoming available to Sweet to the degree he needs.
 
At this point, he's destroyed his life beyond repair unless someone wants to make fixing him their full-time occupation. He would need therapy, legal counsel (to deal with those outstanding warrants) and a life skills coach, not to mention a job coach. Unless there's a socialist revolution in the US in the next few years, I don't see such services becoming available to Sweet to the degree he needs.

Sweet has, by himself, turned me from an ardent feeler of the Bern to a :trump:
 
Of course it isn't exactly hard to get a degree in English. Seriously, getting a degree in being able to speak your own fucking native tongue is not exactly ambitious.
As they say: Oh, my sweet summer child.

There are droves of college girls, of the kind Sweet thinks go home at night and randomly ring up men's dorms, who literally think this way: that getting a degree in how to read things, understand them, and then write coherent sentences about them (and thus paragraphs, and thus essays, which have to be sourced, and no, Amber/Nicole/Ashley, you cannot just change a few words in that paragraph and call it "your own work" -- it still has to have proper citations) will be easy-peasy because they speak and text something akin to English. This would be the equivalent of my thinking the LSAT is easy because I know how to fill in bubbles on a sheet of paper, and that actual law school would be no thang because I've seen many of Sam Waterston's impassioned closing arguments on Law & Order. (Alternatively, I've seen Mariska Hargitay act crushed when the interchangeable pretty blonde ADAs can't make a rape charge stick on SVU.)

It may be that Sweet was allowed to skate because either ASU's undergrad program isn't all that rigorous, or he was essentially socially promoted like Chris-Chan. But grad school, even at a dump like ASU, would have killed him. It may have been a better thing all around that he walked out over his refusal to have his many dysfunctions diagnosed.
 
(Alternatively, I've seen Mariska Hargitay act crushed when the interchangeable pretty blonde ADAs can't make a rape charge stick on SVU.)

Alexandra Cabot, as portrayed by Stephanie March.


Not that I watch SVU religiously or anything *nervous laughter and sweating*

But yeah, English degrees are a lot more than knowing how to speak English, and even if they were, most native speakers of English know very little about the technical aspects of English grammar or etymology. To be fair, I think most native speakers of a language don't know a lot about the technical aspects of their language, since merely by growing up speaking a language you instinctively understand it.

And that's just from a language standpoint, since a lot English programs, as far as I am aware, are extremely heavily weighted toward literature as opposed to linguistics and thus involve shitloads of reading and an even bigger shitload of analytical and critical writing and you theoretically can't just wing it.

On topic: Jonathan Mack Sweet is a delusional hypocritical welfare-leech manbaby and and AHSLAAAAAAAAY would not have sex with him.
 
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