🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

[Pine Tar]

Ugh, keeping track is a pain.

Who said anything about running blindly? I don't like my current situation either but living in the past is not a viable solution until mental time travel becomes a thing.

One of the most baffling things I ever heard you say is college is for dating. I mean, what? College is for advancing your knowledge; if you scored a date, then that's just a neat bonus.

While we're on about your comic and site, I'll just be frank here: You have no sense of aesthetics. You really have no idea how to design a comic, let alone draw. Buying an expensive webhost isn't going to make your site look better either.

Hell, what IS your day job? I have a hard time believing you have a decent internet connection but not making enough money to buy better things or you know, move out.

I think he collects cans off the highway for scrap metal.

 

[Saney]

Look, the bar scene may work for some, but it isn't for me. I don't drink

Skip to 3:55.

 

[The_Iconoclast]

Ahem, if I may.
The Iconoclast admits he debates like a child.

Well, how else am I supposed to debate equally with people who think like children? Case in point:

You have no sense of aesthetics. You really have no idea how to design a comic, let alone draw.

What I hear is, "Nuh nuh nuh! You is not good enough to has that! You is not has nuh bid'ness trying to is get what we is say you not can is has! You is should quit now and die!" Which is a fairly typical liberal socialist progressive world view. Unless I'm misinterpreting you severely, in which case I apologize.

All right, since you won't give a specific example, let's look at a couple of pages, shall we?

The layout looks fine... nice juxtaposition of hand-drawn and photorealistic backgrounds, funny puns, and unlike Chris, I can actually draw a shopping mall.

Are you saying I should stick with scripts and hire someone else to do the pencil/colors? I'd love to, but my old artist friends no longer talk to me after the scandal.

To answer John Titor's question, writing is my day job. I supplement my meager royalties with the money I get from picking up cans on the road and what I have from liquidating old shop stock.

I learned early on I was too socially awkward for office work. I was actually encouraged to spend less time around the newspaper office because apparently I made my co-workers nervous. For example, one of the staffers--the girlfriend of the guy who filed the phony charge, in fact--had a complaint about me always staring at this terrible scar across her throat. She was a pretty girl--it was like someone had taken a butcher knife to the Mona Lisa, and her disfigurement held an odd fascination for me. If not for this infantile behavior and pettiness behind the scenes I might not have been let go.

My next job turned out to be an even bigger disaster when my partner abandoned me, leaving behind a small store that was floundering. Then my idiot brother decided because of that screw-up I was no longer good enough to control my own money. So he pretty much took over my life, demanding a share of every dollar that came into the house. As his life got further out of control, his cut grew bigger and bigger. I tried shop work again--that time the store folded before it even opened. The two old grandmothers I was working for had a falling-out and dissolved the partnership. That gig came with a rent-free apartment in back, so I was obviously sad to lose it. Next time I decide to go into business, the answer is clear: no partners.

You... suffer from ill health. Your life is miserable. Until you start accepting... the fact that there is something wrong with your thinking process, this will not change. It will only become worse. Why not go for a mental health assessment, at least? What's the worst that could happen?

Physical, not mental. And that's from living with my idiot brother for so long. The strain he puts me under has taken its toll on my body after many years, but my "thinking process" is juuuuuuust fine. If anything, it's sharper than it ever was. I see the truth now. The worst that could happen? Well, about ten years ago I had to have a checkup for some dumb insurance thing. My brother as asked to drive me to my appointment. It was at 3:30 PM. The doctor was maybe five minutes late. His Imperial Stupidness got impatient, walked out, and drove off while I was in the office getting looked over. I was left stranded. I stood in the parking lot waiting for him, searching for the car. I wandered the hospital for eight hours. Eight...freaking...hours. I couldn't find a phone or anyone there to help me. What was His Stupidness doing? The following morning, after getting high somewhere, forgetting about me, and passing out with his pants full of ,, he comes dragging his worthless carcass home, acting innocent, no apologies even offered for his callous actions. So yeah, that's the worst that can happen. I knew then he was becoming a monster. I should have smashed the boy's skull open with a baseball bat that day.

I totally remember... [when I was in college] that I wanted to actually, you know, study. Because that's what college is for.

Oh, don't be [cwc]naive[/cwc], Darkie darling. Most of the real life lessons I've picked up were learned outside of the classroom--.in the newsroom and the bedroom.

So are you implying that all college relationships are long distance?

Actually, no, the System girls generally live within a 15-20 mile radius of the school. However, they usu. aren't University students, and a number of them are wealthy girls from good families who don't want a scandal. They have to sneak around, opting for the phone to arrange meetings, and don't like to be seen socializing directly with the men of campus.

I did enjoy a long-distance relationship after my ex dropped out of my life, and as I said earlier, that caused trouble for us. I had to learn the hard way there's a difference between "broken up" and "on break", and to never look for women outside The System.

DTV simply doesn't work. A storm in my area knocked the feed out during Get Smart and the screen has been black for better than an hour. There's too many bugs in the system to be practical. I think I'd at least like the option of keeping one TV on analog just in case. Or maybe I'll just hook the TV to the Internet and watch one of my YouTube playlists. Now let's see, Honey West, or the manic puppetry of Sid and Marty Krofft?

 

[Fishkill]

tl;dr

 

[wheat pasta]

Oh no, wait, I get it!
This guy is a dumbass. It all makes sense now

 

[WWWWolf]

So, Europe is switching from analog to DTV, huh? Big mistake. Wait until they realize they're going to lose most of their favorite channels. France will be on fire again. Plus ca change? The essence of liberalism. La changement est mauvais.

I have big news for you: before digital switchover, Europe didn't bloody have many terrestrial TV channels. We got channels from national broadcasters and maybe a few commercial ones operating in the country. Availability of the commercial channels varied wildly depending on where you lived. The only way to get a lot of channels was cable or satellite. After the digital switchover, we suddenly had the opportunity to have boatloads of channels on terrestrial TV too. Instead of rioting, the reaction was pretty much "oh wow, now we can get TV that doesn't suck".

 

[RetardBus]

I'm really surprised this guy's crappy webcomic isn't on the Bad Webcomics Wiki by now. It fits all of the criteria: Extremely crude, unpleasant to view artwork, completely incomprehensible as a whole, endless walls of text, loony political rants, and of course, lousy writing that's barely even writing to begin with. Like Chris and many lolcows with franchises we've seen in the past, the Iconoclast seems to use his comic as an outlet to rant about politics and other silly shit, rather than to be a genuinely entertaining work to anyone except himself.

 

[The_Iconoclast]

Well, just for that....

Now see what you've done? I am sincerely questioning my purpose in life... [long thoughtful pause]

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You guys ... all change ever is bad, and the static dreamland in the head of @The_Iconoclast is the perfect world.

No, just all change I didn't sign off on. The perfect world would be one in which I had more control over my life...what I was fooled into believing I had back in college. Not stale, not stagnant, not static, just... stable. Is that too much to ask?

 

[EI 903]

Yes. You have control over your life. Sitting around wishing for shit to go your way is pathetic.

 

[WWWWolf]

I'm really surprised this guy's crappy webcomic isn't on the Bad Webcomics Wiki by now. It fits all of the criteria...

Well, yes, all criteria... except the fact that majority of it isn't in the web, last I checked, so it isn't much of a webcomic.

Which reminds me, @The_Iconoclast, I've been meaning to ask: Last I checked (which was years ago), you were selling the comics on your website. How's business? As a collector of various weird and wonderful Interwebs creations, I would have loved to buy your comic, but needless to say it was hideously complicated. Have you considered using better, more streamlined and consumer-friendly self-publication avenues, such as Lulu? Apologies in advance if I'm operating on outdated information.

 

[The_Iconoclast]

I actually did put together a trade paperback a couple of years ago. Here it is. I'm planning a second for later this year or early next.

 

[HG 400]

So, your brother's bullying you or something? Do you want to vent about it? Talking can help.

 

[Ariel]

I actually did put together a trade paperback a couple of years ago. Here it is. I'm planning a second for later this year or early next.

How much is shipping to Australia?

 

[WWWWolf]

I actually did put together a trade paperback a couple of years ago. Here it is. I'm planning a second for later this year or early next.

Thank you. You and your publisher really need to beef up the web design, marketing and web sales skills, though. The publisher page doesn't have any bibliographical information. The sparse information in general makes finding more information about the books and their availability difficult. The page doesn't even mention little things like the fact that the book is available through Amazon CreateSpace, which I only found out after a bit of digging - people tend to be easier to trust big, reliable companies like Amazon with their money.

 

[The_Iconoclast]

You'd have to ask Mr. Tucker, Chimpy. He handles the business end.

And really, RetardBus, very little of the comic is political. In fact, most of the stories are homages to the cartoons I grew up watching, like Tom and Jerry and the old Looney Tunes.

Helblazer, if I controlled my life, do you think it'd be such a mess?

 

[BT 075]

if I controlled my life, do you think it'd be such a mess?

It all depends on your own actions. You can continue to dwell on the past and justify that by pointing towards others who do the same, or you can snap out of it, grow a pair and accept you live in 2014, not 2004 or 1994.

You can choose to do nothing and waste your time, or you can start doing shit. Get busy living, or get busy dying, the choice is yours. The future is right now. Don't waste your time, time wasted is time you will never get back. Work towards achieving your goals one day at a time.

 

[Major Josef Ecker]

if I controlled my life, do you think it'd be such a mess?

Ja, I think it would. It seems like the only way you can respond to something is to go LALALALALALALA NOT LISTENING LALALALALALA, which is really not something well-adjusted people do. Though we can all plainly see you're not well-adjusted, "old sport."

 

[John Titor]

Well, how else am I supposed to debate equally with people who think like children? Case in point:

What I hear is, "Nuh nuh nuh! You is not good enough to has that! You is not has nuh bid'ness trying to is get what we is say you not can is has! You is should quit now and die!" Which is a fairly typical liberal socialist progressive world view. Unless I'm misinterpreting you severely, in which case I apologize.

Yes, you are. All I said was you have no design aesthetics and it's coming from someone who studied art and design, not from a "liberal socialist"; I don't even know how you came to that conclusion, would it have been different if a conservative said it?

 

[Pikonic]

Yes, you are. All I said was you have no design aesthetics and it's coming from someone who studied art and design, not from a "liberal socialist"; I don't even know how you came to that conclusion, would it have been different if a conservative said it?

I voted for Mittens and I say it still looks bad. I couldn't tell you why it looks bad, since I have almost no former art training, but something about it hits the eye wrong, I think it has to do with the colors.

@The_Iconoclast
You seem to skip over valid questions so I'll ask it in a slightly less insulting way.
Did you necro a dead thread because you need people to talk to that badly?

 

[Stuff and Things]

Well, how else am I supposed to debate equally with people who think like children?

If (key word: If) you're dealing with somebody that only behaves like a child, don't you think it would be a better idea to not deal with them in the first place? instead of lower yourself to their level? Even worse, nobody here has been behaving like a child but you, you're the only one who tries to lower people to your level just so you can "win" (because we all know that the main point of a discussion is to win, nothing else) i just hope you realize that, everything that you say only makes you look like an idiot, attention whore, and a dickhead. Sorry.