🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Iconoclast said:
Would you tell a rape victim to "move on" knowing that the person who did it is out there waiting for another chance to do it again to them or to another victim?

Wat. No, but lots of people do find lots of ways to tell us that somehow it was our own fault, or just, you know, trivialize what happened to us by comparing it to personal slights. I don't ever hope any human being learns firsthand what it's like... but people who do tend not to pull a Chris and liken the crime to anything unrelated.
 
As someone who was raped by someone who did not face criminal charges, yeah, I've moved on with my life. Do I wish the guy had gone to jail? Hell, yes. Have I devoted the decades since to seeking vengeance? Of course not.

Iconoclast could not have picked a worse example.
 
Not sure if you guys noticed this highschool picture of our hero:

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Also him equating his situation to rape is sickening. What a piece of shit.
 
Not sure if you guys noticed this highschool picture of our hero:

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Also him equating his situation to rape is sickening. What a piece of shit.
Wait wait wait. Is that a Cub Scouts badge on his head? Like the Webelos ear of corn thing? That's wonderful.
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Yes, that seriously looks like a Cub Scout badge on his head. He had to, like, make a safety notebook and explain how to be a good citizen in order to get that.
 
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Checked out his DeviantArt profile and got mad creeped out.
Looks like Iconoclast replied to you in the same journal entry linked to above (the 11/17/2014 one - scroll down to his reply to the journal that's an 11/18/2014 update).

There's a "Deviant" rating, but I have no idea how to get that.
The "deviant" ranking is a negative one though. I'm not sure what it's supposed to be. A disembodied liver? The "horrified" rating is a "positive" one though.

Back on topic, Iconoclast is expecting to get a lot of money? Somehow, I don't see this as ending well for him. Iconoclast may then accuse the system in that case.

Also, how much is he trying to contact certain people involved in his past?
 
Wait wait wait. Is that a Cub Scouts badge on his head? Like the Webelos ear of corn thing? That's wonderful.
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Yes, that seriously looks like a Cub Scout badge on his head. He had to, like, make a safety notebook and explain how to be a good citizen in order to get that.
He says so right here:
The bandanna Jon wears is actually an old Cub scout neckerchief I own, that I like to wear sometimes as a headband-- check it out in this old yearbook photo of me.

Another thing from the past he won't let go of.
 
Back on topic, Iconoclast is expecting to get a lot of money?
Since the Ice Cream Man No Essay Rule was implemented I haven't had a lot of cause to talk about this turd, but here's something I can jam into a paragraph real fast: there are two separate planes of existence at work here. They are Reality and Sweetie's Reality. In Sweetie's Reality, all he needs to do is find the right combination of words or phrases to somehow convince everyone that he was horribly maligned and deserves compensation for all the opportunities he was denied. Once this occurs, he'll make good on past commitments and prove to all the haters and everyone who ever doubted him that he's the capital m Man and that we should all be privileged to know him. He'll be the talk of the town! You'll see!

In Reality, where we all live, even if he had a case no one would care because its a right to work state and no one cares about a newspaper at a University. There's just no chance that past glories mean anything in this day and age, even in the best of circumstances it's never about what you've done, it's about what you can do and what you've done for me, you, us, lately.

There's a point, which is fast approaching, when it will be too late to turn his life around. It won't be a big change, like so many things in life it will be gradual and it will occur in stages. Life will become even less fun than it already is for our hero. Quite depressing, really, because he actually has some of the intellectual wherewithal to unfuck his situation if he so chose.

edit: fuck it it's essay time
 
That's why I like college relationships. They're perfect. Since they're mostly conducted by phone, you get to stay in, you don't have to take the girl out and spend money on her, or even speak to them if you don't want to. You can go three, four hours and not say a dozen words to one another, if you know what I mean. After six months to a year of phone fun, you agree to meet in person. That's the college system. It's how we men lived, and how we were taught. And it generally works, even if the girl they paired we with was a little off. I think I'm ready to try it again. Now that I know the rules, I believe I can make it work.

This is weird and creepy and super fucked up. I'm 30 and I lived on campus for five years; if anything, it was the OPPOSITE of that. People didn't text, not even socially. They just hung out together, told stories, and interacted like human beings.

You're a loony toon mate, pining for a world that never existed and a life full of people whom--from all accounts--hated you.
 
This is weird and creepy and super fucked up. I'm 30 and I lived on campus for five years; if anything, it was the OPPOSITE of that. People didn't text, not even socially. They just hung out together, told stories, and interacted like human beings.

You're a loony toon mate, pining for a world that never existed and a life full of people whom--from all accounts--hated you.
It's amazing just how little self-awareness he has of his own creepiness, and how bizarre the delusions are that he buys into. It's like he grew up in some far-right extremist cult or something, being fed crazy bullshit for years so that it's all he can accept as the truth. He doesn't even have that excuse to fall back on, though. Like, Jace believes he's a Marine Spec Ops parkour battle-stoner in a neverending struggle against al-Gamerfood, but he's also probably schizophrenic. @The_Iconoclast is just a paranoid manchild who can't take responsibility for his actions.

And lol, I just looked back at the post you were quoting to revisit some of the gems of crazy in it. He seriously believes he's a skilled enough debater to make his opponents look bad, that France will riot over their cable channels changing, and that the TV rating system is responsible for all his troubles. :story:
 
It's amazing just how little self-awareness he has of his own creepiness, and how bizarre the delusions are that he buys into. It's like he grew up in some far-right extremist cult or something, being fed crazy bullshit for years so that it's all he can accept as the truth. He doesn't even have that excuse to fall back on, though. Like, Jace believes he's a Marine Spec Ops parkour battle-stoner in a neverending struggle against al-Gamerfood, but he's also probably schizophrenic. @The_Iconoclast is just a paranoid manchild who can't take responsibility for his actions.

And lol, I just looked back at the post you were quoting to revisit some of the gems of crazy in it. He seriously believes he's a skilled enough debater to make his opponents look bad, that France will riot over their cable channels changing, and that the TV rating system is responsible for all his troubles. :story:

Dude's loonier than his avatar.
 
This is weird and creepy and super fucked up. I'm 30 and I lived on campus for five years; if anything, it was the OPPOSITE of that. People didn't text, not even socially. They just hung out together, told stories, and interacted like human beings.

You're a loony toon mate, pining for a world that never existed and a life full of people whom--from all accounts--hated you.

He seems to not understand that he was being trolled on the phone, and assumes all college guys had the same experience of college romance as he did.
 
This is weird and creepy and super fucked up. I'm 30 and I lived on campus for five years; if anything, it was the OPPOSITE of that. People didn't text, not even socially. They just hung out together, told stories, and interacted like human beings.

You're a loony toon mate, pining for a world that never existed and a life full of people whom--from all accounts--hated you.

I would reference how his icon is, in fact, Bugs Bunny...... but I'm too good for that.
 
Hi Sweetness! I see you've been busy following this thread because your inflated, bloated ego can't let you accept criticism and you are desperate to respond to us. Anyway, in regards to your comments on your thing there:

Sweetness said:
"Blah blah blah yibbeddy yibbeddy yibbeddy hims is bad hims is not think like we do mangled, laughable definition of "reality" yibbeddy yibbeddy yibbedy blah."
Or, you know, the people will hear my words, embrace me as a god, and I will finally rebuild my life the way it used to be. You know, whichever.

I only got one question for you: why do you think that other people will hear what you have to say and not respond like we have? We represent the populace, not you. You have no idea how society works or how to function in it, as has been proven. We do, so using us as a barometer for how "the people" will react wouldn't be the worst idea in the world. We really do represent a large cross section of society, and we're sitting here telling you that you're an abject failure and you will remain miserable and deluded until you get with the goddamn program, man.

I've got a great job, I've got a great family, and I've got great friends. On this forum, there are published authors and scholars, scientists and technicians, and many other occupations represented. I learn all sorts of cool shit from the people here, and I greatly admire and respect this place and the awful wonderful trolling stupids who inhabit it.

What do you have? Do you even have friends? You don't have a job, you're a leech on society...I mean honestly guy, how hard is it to go "those other monkeys have more bananas than me, maybe I should do what they do?" Please evolve, and quit festering in your own waste.
 
Published author here, teaching at a state university, and I can honestly say I have never, ever heard of, much less been involved with, any cracked-out scheme for pairing students off with each other. They manage to do that quite handily themselves. I care about how they use commas and whether they've plagiarized parts of their essays... oopsie, that miiiight be a sore subject around these parts, except I now have to fill out a form to submit to the associate provost because some poor bastard copied such a mangled assortment of sources in his effort to sound learned that it now reads that Sir Thomas More was president of the US. Which, you know, totally existed in his lifetime. Or maybe not.

We do not even remotely try to impose our politics on the students. Actually, a lot of people would probably be surprised to hear how far to the right some of my older colleagues hang. But no part of the political spectrum does that because, to use a quaint phrase from the past, no1curr. They don't want to know about our politics, personal lives, or much of anything besides their grades, which is as it should be -- I'd find it mortally creepifying if some kid did take an interest in either whom I love or how I vote. They manage to pair themselves up quite handily. And it takes far less than six months before they get into one another's physical proximity. Six minutes, sometimes, according to conversations I hear on campus. Not all of the relationships, of course, will last, but as bizarre as it is to expect a student to have a career all mapped out at the age of 18, it is equally bizarre to expect them to be good judges of character at that age. However, more than one of my students did meet a spouse or permanent partner here at State U. after being in my class, which is intended for first-year students, ideally in their first semester.

But since this isn't an environment where we chat about their social lives -- I would actually prefer we chat about the course material -- and I see them for about three hours a week total, it would be literally insane on my part to say, "Hey, Studentboy, I notice you have Star Wars slip-on sneakers on your little footsies. So does Other Student over yonder.* Maybe you should ask that person out." Breach of privacy, breach of etiquette, would require psychic/psychiatric genius far above my pay grade... just no.

What is, of course, far stupider than the Sir Thomas More statement above is a pontification I heard from one male student to another one year as I was boarding a bus. "What you have to realize about women," one young man said earnestly to the other, "is that they're a totally separate species." No... what the advice-seeker needs to realize is pretty well the opposite. We too eat Cheetos, Mr. Iconoclast. We just don't have beards to get the orange dust in.

* Footnote (shoe note?): This is literally true. I have an unusually nerdy 3 pm section this semester.
 
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