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Sweets Sez said:
"There's my j--no, wait, had to give that up in 1997.
"There's my fabulous girlf--no, wait, she walked out on me in 1998.
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So the Herald firing went down sometime in '97. The SNL sketch in question aired in January of that year, so sometime after that, he got fired. If I recall correctly he started talking to Ashleigh, and then she stopped, and I think he said they reconnected in either January or February for the ill fated meet up. I'd always had these events happening at the same time based on his stories, but it seems like they were about a whole year apart.

We know he was on campus for the Ashleigh "relationship" so sometime in later in '98 he did something to not only get kicked off of campus but also banned from ASU. What did he do to get the ban hammer in '98? Or did he do something in the last several years that he finally got banned? I know we've seen some of the harassing e-mails he's sent, but the responses always mention that he was banned previous to those messages being sent. As much as we know what happened, he's still leaving out a lot details to his potential audience about a lot of things. If I was impartial, how the hell could I begin to side with someone who doesn't give me the full story?
 
DrChristianTroy said:
I'd love to know what imaginary business he thinks he has.
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This was back when he was working at Dale's shop. For no pay. You know, because he totally wasn't being babysat.

It's kind of amazing how that morphed in his mind into his shop where he could make hiring decisions.

atomik fyre said:
So the Herald firing went down sometime in '97. The SNL sketch in question aired in January of that year, so sometime after that, he got fired. If I recall correctly he started talking to Ashleigh, and then she stopped, and I think he said they reconnected in either January or February for the ill fated meet up. I'd always had these events happening at the same time based on his stories, but it seems like they were about a whole year apart.

We know he was on campus for the Ashleigh "relationship" so sometime in later in '98 he did something to not only get kicked off of campus but also banned from ASU. What did he do to get the ban hammer in '98? Or did he do something in the last several years that he finally got banned? I know we've seen some of the harassing e-mails he's sent, but the responses always mention that he was banned previous to those messages being sent. As much as we know what happened, he's still leaving out a lot details to his potential audience about a lot of things. If I was impartial, how the hell could I begin to side with someone who doesn't give me the full story?
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I had always understood it as he sent the e-mails, and as a result the student judicial affairs person Dr. Leo Greer said he had to get psychological help or else he would be banned. Jon refused and then was banned. (It's kind of like how Mary Lee Walsh said Chris had to get psychological help or he couldn't come back to PVCC.) But Jon has a tendency to compress the timing of all this in his mind and it wrap it up into one big operation by Da System against him.

Still, you're right, he has a history of leaving out key details about a lot of things (like all the stuff about why he's not allowed to have his own money). He's either hedging because it's embarrassing (like when he let slip he gets a :tugboat: on another message board under a different handle after years of raging against welfare and welfare recipients) or he genuinely is ignorant/confused and misremembers key things (like how he now claims the :tugboat: is for the shop going out of business, not his laryngitis).

It would be great if we had more info from sources other than Jon.
 
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One thing I've noticed - at least CWC keeps the stories he tells fairly consistent, even if the point of view isn't all correct. For example, every time CWC tells the story about God and the Bear giving him his hew name at the mall, he never adds any new critical details, as far as I know.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Anti-discrimination laws have been in place long before Obama took office in the USA. Since 1964 for race, in fact:

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/
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Fake Jon Thumb said:
Lyndon Baines Johnsohn is the worst president since Abraham Lincoln. His progressive agenda did more harm to the economy than Lincoln's war did to the southern industry and agriculture. Heck, that ugly strawman faker probably is the reason why I couldn't keep that job at ASS-U, since the ninny made us poorer with his antislavery nonsense.
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I know, I'm probably writing him as too knowledgeable; I can't help it.:c

By the way, I'm certain that Jonny Can't Do is not very aware of this country's legacy or laws. Hell, as a dabbler and history poseur, I'm real curious to see what he can remember about our presidents and their legacies.
 
Adamska said:
I know, I'm probably writing him as too knowledgeable; I can't help it.:c

By the way, I'm certain that Jonny Can't Do is not very aware of this country's legacy or laws. Hell, as a dabbler and history poseur, I'm real curious to see what he can remember about our presidents and their legacies.
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AJM STUDIOS News January 2015
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Treenbeen on Jan 21, 2015 at 5:40am
[referring to the state of racial equality in the US] I'm with Trollis. A little research goes a long way into showing we haven't come nearly as far as we thought.


Dr. Belch on Jan 21, 2015 at 1:02pm
We've made some progress, but there will always be some foot-draggers who will take us three steps back for every one forward. And, dirty little secret-- many of them are on the Democrat side of the aisle. Lyndon Johnson, anyone? Hm? Robert Byrd? Bobby and Teddy Kennedy? J. William Fulbright, known segregationist and mentor to their god and savior Bill Clinton? Even Obama isn't exempt from this. And of course, Memphis has the Ford family, "King" Willie Herenton, and the Mo' Money boys.

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Racism is defined as a belief that one group is inherently superior to the other despite lack of any empirical evidence as proof. Now very few people, I hope, actually subscribe to this theory today, but there is an inherent schism between the races built into the system-- and it's deliberate. Whites are KFC, blacks are Jack Pirtle's*. Sad, but true. Remember, progress only goes as far as those in charge of it will allow to maintain their power base.

*a chicken restaurant located in the Memphis area, whose TV spots show not one white face in the crowd
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Source

He also stated that the "dirty little secret" of Vietnam was that the US had won, but the liberals cost us a victory somehow. Guy's dumb.

Unrelated, but quite intriguing:

I still maintain that having that kid in our store was a legal liability. He was an unattended minor. If he had gotten hurt on the property I, my business partner, and the building's owner would be held legally responsible. That is the law. Junior also violated my personal space on numerous occasions, which worried me. In police jargon it is called "the kill zone". We had a display of knives on sale in the shop window. A dagger, hunting knife, or pumpkin-cutting blade could have very easily ended up in my neck, my arm, or one of my kidneys, doing severe damage. A boy of twelve or 13 is more than capable of stabbing someone from behind. My partner and I had some very nasty disputes regarding the kid, and I think this was the beginning of the end for our business. My only crime there was having my own hidden agenda-- save up enough to return to school, and try to get back with my ex. For this arrogance I was punished.

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Two weeks previous [to Sweet's mother getting assaulted] I had been assaulted by a group of blacks at a bus stop. One of them claimed my dog had chased him down the street...so they knocked me down, kicked me around a bit, and left. Thankfully I was just slightly shaken by the ordeal. Across the street, a whole schoolyard of students watched, and no one even did so much as summon a teacher to assist me while I was lying there, curled up defensively in a ball, scared for my life...I was furious at them because they just stood there and looked on like a pack of slack -jawed imbeciles. Those selfsame blacks who gleefully kicked me around could have been involved in my mom's attack, for all I know. At least I had the presence of mind to phone 911, which proper protocol dictates.

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Of course, 911 was called only after the attack, according to another of his accounts.
 
It's been 14 days since he posted on AJM. Anyone have any news on Sweets?
 
My guess is that technical difficulties (read: probably easy to avoid issues) are preventing Sweet from going online. That Sweet is stewing in grudges, both old (the Herald, ASU, the shopkeeper who "skipped town") and new (Kiwi Farms), is probably a given.

Also, I visited Blytheville, Arkansas out of curiosity in Google Earth. From what I saw in the center of town (at least around the part where "THAT BOOKSTORE" is), it seems to be a pretty run-down place. There are plenty of sidewalks, at least downtown.
 
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autism420 said:
It's been 14 days since he posted on AJM. Anyone have any news on Sweets?
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It's interesting. Sweet logs in a lot, but he doesn't post. He may be sharing private messages with someone. I wonder if he hasn't been stung by his actions. The AJMers may not like us Kiwis being there, but no one's done anything about it. Sweet ran back to the site, thinking it'd be his "oasis" of peace where he could get away from us. He indignantly railed against us coming after him, and said he would talk to the mods about it. The result? A thread devoted entirely to confronting him. A battlefield (or 'Thumbderdome') wherein we would go in and kick Jon's twisted behind every post.

There is virtually no defense of Sweet offered by the AJM members that he's known for ten years now (I'm excluding Treenbeen and Trollis, of course, who are both awesome). They're upset that the peace has been disturbed, but again, will do nothing about it but complain. What this means is that when Sweet steps in with a melodramatic call-to-arms, he'll be summarily ignored by everyone but us. They're too nice/self-absorbed to tell Sweet to go pound sand, but they won't do anything to actively defend him. I imagine that he was counting on a swell of overwhelming support, and it just ain't coming.

Being the dopey coward that he is, I figure that Sweet checks in when he does in order to defend himself (poorly) from another of our posts, or possibly in the hope that someone has taken up his flag and will defend him. Again, that's just conjecture, though.



TheIceCreamMan said:
We have top men on the case.
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Who?
 
Once again, people exceeded the hurtful truth level so he's laying low and nursing his bruised ego. It doesn't look like he's been banned over at AJM, but nobody's leaping to his defense, either, and he didn't get the enthusiastic response to his moving inspirational monlogue that he was no doubt waiting for.
 
Adamska said:
Dial-Up and modems are where it's really at.
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That reminds me of a time where someone wanted to download official trailers and clips of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (this was just before the movie came out). It literally took all evening to download a clip, and the phone line was tied up the whole time. Now, thanks to progress and change, I could probably download those clips in minutes, without using a landline telephone connection (which I don't even use in the first place).

I recall from earlier in the thread that Sweet blames his technological backwardness not on himself, but on location and being kicked off the paper in half-past 1997.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I recall from earlier in the thread that Sweet blames his technological backwardness not on himself, but on location and being kicked off the paper in half-past 1997.
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He does, but then he remarks how even during his time there he still had no clue how to use copiers, faxes, and other basic office equipment. He used the excuse that no one told him how, but the thing is... he never asked how to use any of them either. Even when he was a young man, he was too lazy to piece it out himself and would not bother to learn unless others told him directly before hand how it'd work.
 
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He does, but then he remarks how even during his time there he still had no clue how to use copiers, faxes, and other basic office equipment. He used the excuse that no one told him how, but the thing is... he never asked how to use any of them either. Even when he was a young man, he was too lazy to piece it out himself and would not bother to learn unless others told him directly before hand how it'd work.
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Or he's too timid. Whatever the case, he doesn't seem to want to show initiative. He's referenced social phobia before, and now I figure his laryngitis adds to his self-consciousness.
 
Greetings, Kiwis.

And congratulations on an utterly fascinating thread. I feel that I should not enjoy something so much without giving something in return, so here are a couple of tidbits that have not, IIRC, been adduced so far:

At the end of his short story, "The Second Mrs. Pecker," Mr. Sweet provides the following biographical information (written in the third person, as usual): "Sweet graduated in 1998 with a BA in English. In addition, he holds a BS in psychology from Mississippi County Commmunity [sic] College (now Arkansas Northeastern College). His extensive knowledge of psychology can be seen in many of his stories."

For those not conversant with the the system of higher education in the United States, community colleges do not award bachelor's degrees. Mississippi County Community College was no exception. Why would someone who is falsifying his CV claim to have a degree from an institution that doesn't award that degree? (Here is a link to the school's online course catalog. The college from which Sweetpea claims to have a BS in psychology offers only two freshman-level introductory classes -- Introduction to Psychology and Developmental Psychology -- in that field. Not even enough coursework for an associate's degree.) And why would someone attempting to inflate his CV claim a bogus degree from a fifth-tier community college in rural Arkansas in the first place? Very odd.

And then there's this: Me Goin' Hollywood, in which Mr. Sweet is described as being "currently in talks with Hollywood producers to adapt one of the six stories in his new collection Almasheol for a major motion picture." Read it and weep.

More research is needed on Mr. Sweet. I will do my part.

Edit: Added link to online course catalog of Arkansas Northeastern College.
 
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