Iago, Igor & Renfield Speculation - A Shakespearean Mystery

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The Bright Lord said:
-He's not a voice actor nor directly affiliated with the companies involved despite his aforementioned clout and his hands have never been dirty
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Where did anyone say either of these? Ty specifically referred to him as a vice principal of a corporation.
 
There is one thing that is confusing me after last night's stream.

Points from the Beard either explicitly or implicitly on the stream about Iagor and Igor:
- They are the key villains of the piece
- Iago is "the man behind the curtain" and Igor is his primary messenger implementing his plans.
- Ron Toye is not either of these people.

The issue from Nick's stream last night:
Its implied that Ron orchestrated the funimation investigation - or at least was a key figure in it happening (what with all 4 complainants being close friends of his) and him having the detail before it happened.

This has to be a massive component of the overall scheme.
Was Ron working with Igor or Iago? Or was this a whole separate angle? If it was separate what on earth were Iago and Igor doing to be even worse than this?
 
The Bright Lord said:
If I remember correctly, Ty said that Iago wasn't a voice actor or anything. Lemme rewatch the clip brb
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He said he wasn't an EMPLOYEE of Funimation or RT. None of Funi's VAs are employees, that I know of. They're contractors.
 
AnOminous said:
He said he wasn't an EMPLOYEE of Funimation or RT. None of Funi's VAs are employees, that I know of. They're contractors.
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colloquially they've been referring to them as employees. So I don't think he'll change his wording as a clue on a livestream
 
AnOminous said:
He said he wasn't an EMPLOYEE of Funimation or RT. None of Funi's VAs are employees, that I know of. They're contractors.
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But nobody relevant to the case is actually an employee if contractors don't count though, so that would basically be a non-clue. But if you interpret it to mean that they're not in any way directly affiliated with the companies in question that narrows it down a lot but eliminates all likely suspects. So I've always been thinking Iago would turn out to be someone who isn't a VA

Geekdom is in a great position to pressure kamehacon, and so is Sabat. However since Sabat was outed by Nick a while ago, that could exclude him from Iago's whole acting behind the scenes and not getting his hands dirty thing.
 
The Bright Lord said:
Geekdom is in a great position to pressure kamehacon, and so is Sabat. However since Sabat was outed by Nick a while ago, that could exclude him from Iago's whole acting behind the scenes and not getting his hands dirty thing.
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What relevant corporation is he a vice principal of?
 
AnOminous said:
What relevant corporation is he a vice principal of?
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Kamehacon since he's the host?

Is he one of those youtubers that has enough revenue and stuff going on to have his own company? Big youtubers have employees and Merch. I know geekdom has merch but I don't know about employees.

Nothing relevant is coming up in my searches so lets call that a big fat maybe
 
AnOminous said:
What relevant corporation is he a vice principal of?
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I know Sabat owns Okatron 5000 and uses his company to keep a firm grip of FUNI's balls when it comes to recording Dragonball stuff. As for Geekdom I don't think he's Iago at all, he's more likely to be a Renfield/Igor tier shitter, he loves sucking up to the VAs (Sabat in particular) and loves to gatekeep the fuck out of the youtube dragonball community. He has been a host for both 2018 and 2019 kamehacon and did seem to have some sway there due to being able to get his useless friends panel space (which they promptly dropped after they reinvited Vic) but I don't think they gave him any hiring or firing duties.
 
The Bright Lord said:
Geekdom is in a great position to pressure kamehacon, and so is Sabat. However since Sabat was outed by Nick a while ago, that could exclude him from Iago's whole acting behind the scenes and not getting his hands dirty thing.
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Nick's brushed off geekdom speculation when somebody asked about geekdom = Iago in a chat, so i don't think he's very important. Two names keep coming up when Nick's talking about potential lawsuits. Sabat who he furiously called out in that KC stream and lately Schemmel's name keeps popping up.

Also lol at geekdom being in any position to pressure KC. He could be very easily replaced as host of VA panels by literally anybody and his gay little follower crew do 20-30 person talks in side rooms at best. They pulled out and nobody was missed.
 
OldAmishRenegade said:
I've been sticking with Sabat = Iago, Schemmel = Igor, and either Douglas or Daman Mills = Renfield, but after seeing the Kamehacon texts it's possible Ian Sinclair is in this mix.
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Which would be pretty damning. He would be the first conspirator that directly benefitted from Vic's defamation.
 
I believe on Tuesday's stream Nick said round 2 could possibly involve both Schemmel and Sabat. I don't think I've heard Nick explicitly mention his name as one of the litigants. For a while I thought Sabat was Iago but I'm leaning on Schemmel because of his supposed "high pitched" voice.
 
curious gentoo said:
I believe on Tuesday's stream Nick said round 2 could possibly involve both Schemmel and Sabat. I don't think I've heard Nick explicitly mention his name as one of the litigants. For a while I thought Sabat was Iago but I'm leaning on Schemmel because of his supposed "high pitched" voice.
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That's the thing that makes me doubt that Sabat is Iago. With Beard suggesting he has kind of a whiny, nasally voice, say what you will about Sabat, but his voice is deep and resonant:
Contrast this with Schemmel, who's voice is higher and sounds more like Beard's impression:
It's not perfect because there may be other people who fit the vocal bill, maybe Beard isn't great at impressions, maybe it was even a red herring by Beard or he got their voices mixed up, etc. But so long as their's some evidence to doubt Sabat is Iago, we can't say he is Iago until it's confirmed.
 
Bogey Fairy said:
That's the thing that makes me doubt that Sabat is Iago. With Beard suggesting he has kind of a whiny, nasally voice, say what you will about Sabat, but his voice is deep and resonant:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sj9LqacxpIQContrast this with Schemmel, who's voice is higher and sounds more like Beard's impression:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X-398M5WP64It's not perfect because there may be other people who fit the vocal bill, maybe Beard isn't great at impressions, maybe it was even a red herring by Beard or he got their voices mixed up, etc. But so long as their's some evidence to doubt Sabat is Iago, we can't say he is Iago until it's confirmed.
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I didn't see the vid beard actually said this. Could he have been referring to a voice they perform as opposed to their normal speaking voice? Its been a long time since I watched any Dragon ball shit, but isnt Goku's voice kind of high pitched, nasally, and whiny?
 
Schemmel being Iago and Sabat being Igor would be a major twist. Voices aside, I still doubt this is the case.
Watching those two interact, Schemmel definitely defers to Sabat.

If we go by the references, given that Othello trused Iago, I'm gonna still have to say it's probably Sabat. Schemmel has hated Vic forever and I doubt that Vic missed that. Sabat seems to be more of a snake - using everybody around him to achieve whatever stupid gay ops he's got planned.
 
I think what's interesting to note, is that during the Kamehacon TI shitshow Ty mentioned not having enough evidence to tag Iago, and would need to acquire them through discovery. As time went on before the lawsuits were filed, evidence was handed, voluntarily, by persons who hated Iago. So much so that Ty had enough evidence to name him in round 1 of the lawsuit but decided not to for strategic reasons. We already know Sabat was one of those involved in tortious interference, but not Schemmel. Sabat comes across as a kind of lapdog willing to please everybody. Schemmel on the other hand is an self important asshole who nobody likes. It's easy to see how his co-workers would come out if it was him. But maybe I'm reading too much into it.
 
DeadFry said:
Sabat seems to be more of a snake - using everybody around him to achieve whatever stupid gay ops he's got planned.
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He seems exactly like the kind of person who would hold a venomous grudge against someone, but pretend to be their trusted friend to their face, while slithering around trying to stick a knife in their back.
 
I'm a bit out of the loop here. Has it ever been confirmed that Iago is male? Because if Iago is in the first round of lawsuits, and likes to keep his hands clean, the only one in all of this, that is an individual, and had someone acting on their behalf, is Monica Rial. She had Toye do her dirty work. If Rennfield is a known figure, already named here, I'm guessing it's Toye.
 
twistedpuppet said:
I'm a bit out of the loop here. Has it ever been confirmed that Iago is male? Because if Iago is in the first round of lawsuits, and likes to keep his hands clean, the only one in all of this, that is an individual, and had someone acting on their behalf, is Monica Rial. She had Toye do her dirty work. If Rennfield is a known figure, already named here, I'm guessing it's Toye.
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Ron is too exceptional to be any of the trio. Also the conspiracy main villains are round two targets alongside MarzGurl, so this theory does not work.
 
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