I Tried to Filter Him Out - As a Pakistani Muslim, I knew that falling for a Hindu Indian would break me. And it did.

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I Tried to Filter Him Out​

As a Pakistani Muslim, I knew that falling for a Hindu Indian would break me. And it did.



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Credit...Brian Rea
By Myra Farooqi
April 16, 2021Updated 12:16 a.m. ET

We started texting during the early months of the pandemic, going back and forth every day for hours. The stay-at-home order created a space for us to get to know each other because neither of us had any other plans.
We built a friendship founded on our love of music. I introduced him to the hopelessly romantic soundtrack of my life: Durand Jones & The Indications, Toro y Moi and the band Whitney. He introduced me to classic Bollywood soundtracks, Tinariwen and the bass-filled tracks of Khruangbin.
He was eccentrically passionate in a way that barely annoyed me and often inspired me. Our banter was only curtailed by bedtimes we grudgingly enforced at 3 a.m., after eight straight hours of texting.
We had met on a dating app for South Asians called Dil Mil. My filters went beyond age and height to exclude all non-Muslim and non-Pakistani men. As a 25-year-old woman who grew up in the Pakistani-Muslim community, I was all too aware of the prohibition on marrying outside of my faith and culture, but my filters were more safeguards against heartbreak than indications of my religious and ethnic preferences. I simply did not want to fall for someone I couldn’t marry (not again, anyway — I had already learned that lesson the hard way).

How a passionate, quirky, ambitious, 30-year-old, Hindu Indian American made it through my filters — whether by technical glitch or an act of God — I’ll never know. All I know is that once he did, I fell deeply in love with him.


He lived in San Francisco while I was quarantining seven hours south. I had already planned to move up north, but Covid and the forest fires delayed those plans. By August, I finally made the move — both to my new home and on him.
He drove two hours to pick me up bearing gag gifts that represented inside jokes we had shared during our two-month texting phase. I already knew everything about this man except his touch, his essence and his voice.
After two months of effortless communication, we approached this meeting desperate to be as perfect in person. The pressure to be nothing less overwhelmed us until he turned some music on. Dre’es’s “Warm” played and everything else fell into place — soon we were laughing like old friends.
We went to the beach and shopped for plants. At his apartment, he made me drinks and dinner. The stove was still on when my favorite Toro y Moi song, “Omaha,” came on. He stopped cooking to deliver a cheesy line that was quickly overshadowed by a passionate kiss. In this pandemic, it was just us, with our favorite music accompanying every moment.

On our fourth date, he transformed his apartment into The Fillmore venue to create a concert at home. He scanned my fake ticket, took my coat, made a gaudy cocktail and ushered me to the dimly lit dance floor where we danced terribly, but always in each other’s arms.
He ended the set with Leon Bridges’s song, “Beyond,” one I had heard many times. He held me tight and whispered, “I was afraid to show you this song, but here it

We swayed slowly as I listened to the lyrics: “I’m scared to death that she might be it … That the love is real, that the shoe might fit …”
I avoided eye contact with him, but I gripped the back of his flannel shirt tighter because I knew what line was coming: “Will she be my wife?”
He wasn’t crazy, and it was not too soon, because I felt the same. After having endured several dead-end relationships with non-Muslims and Muslims alike, here he was at last, the man I was supposed to be with. I knew it was time to have the big conversation with him — the one in which I remind him that I am Muslim.
On our fifth date, we drank white wine on a semi-quiet San Francisco street corner. I asked if he was ready to hear more about my family and religion.
“Yes,” he said.
I said, “Do you understand what it means to be with a Muslim girl?”
He began to ramble about his academic curiosity for the Quran and spirituality, and his eagerness to raise children in an interfaith household.
“If we decide to be together,” I said, “you need to understand that the only way forward is for you to convert. It won’t make things easy, but it will make things possible.”
His answer came too fast for comfort: “I’m game.”
How could he be so certain?

“Sometimes,” he said, “you are willing to change your whole future for one person.”
He and I continued to date for the rest of the year, fleeing from the societal expectations of our families and communities — fleeing, really, from any expectations at all. In our Covid bubble, we said “I love you” too soon, didn’t listen to our friends when they urged us to take it slow and ignored the harsh familial realities ahead of us.

I hadn’t told my mother anything about him, not a word, despite being months into the most consequential romantic relationship of my life. But Thanksgiving was fast approaching, when we each would return to our families.
This love story may have been his and mine, but without my mother’s approval, there would be no path forward. She was born and raised in Karachi, Pakistan. To expect her to understand how I fell in love with a Hindu would require her to unlearn all the traditions and customs with which she had been raised. I promised myself to be patient with her.
I was scared to raise the subject, but I wanted to share my happiness. With just the two of us in my bedroom, she began complaining about Covid spoiling my marriage prospects, at which point I blurted the truth: I already had met the man of my dreams.
“Who?” she said. “Is he Muslim?”
When I said no, she shrieked.
“Is he Pakistani?”
When I said no, she gasped.
“Can he speak Urdu or Hindi?”
When I said no, she started to cry.

But as I spoke about my relationship with him, and the fact that he had pledged to convert for me, she softened.
“I have never seen you talk about anyone like this,” she said. “I know you’re in love.” With these words of understanding, I saw that her strict framework was ultimately less important than my happiness.

When I told him that my mother knew the truth, he celebrated the momentum this development promised. However, in the coming weeks, he grew anxious that her approval was entirely predicated on him converting.

We each returned home once more for the December holidays, and that’s when I felt the foundation of my relationship with him begin to crack. With every delayed response to my texts, I knew something had changed. And indeed, everything had.
When he told his parents that he was thinking of converting for me, they broke down, crying, begging, pleading with him not to abandon his identity. We were two people who were able to defy our families and lean on serendipitous moments, lucky numbers and astrology to prove we belonged together. But we only searched for signs because we ran out of solutions.

Finally, he called, and we spoke, but it didn’t take long to know where things stood.
“I will never convert to Islam,” he said. “Not nominally, not religiously.”
More quickly than he had declared “I’m game” on that sunny San Francisco afternoon all those months ago, I said, “Then that’s it.”
Many people will never understand the requirements of marrying a Muslim. For me, the rules about marriage are stubborn, and the onus of sacrifice lies with the non-Muslim whose family is presumably more open to the possibility of interfaith relationships. Many will say it’s selfish and incongruous that a non-Muslim must convert for a Muslim. To them I would say I cannot defend the arbitrary limitations of Muslim love because I have been broken by them. I lost the man I thought I would love forever.

For a while I blamed my mother and religion, but it’s hard to know how strong our relationship really was with the music turned off. We loved in a pandemic, which was not the real world. Our romance was insulated from the ordinary conflicts of balancing work, friends and family. We were isolated both by our forbidden love and a global calamity, which surely deepened what we felt for each other. What we had was real, but it wasn’t enough.
I have since watched Muslim friends marry converts. I know it’s possible to share a love so endless that it can overcome these obstacles. But for now, I will keep my filters on.

 
The clear solution here is for the Hindu and Muslim to realize their incompatibility, resist the temptation to cross over, and marry one of their own. It’s a no-brainer and seems to be the conventional wisdom of both communities; why reinvent the wheel?
 
If she is a Western born Muslim that is a guarantee.
what is the point of having that conversation on your fifth date you stupid bint

Forget not being able to marry a Hindu as a supposedly practicing Muslim in the first place, you're not even supposed to "date".

Oh, can't forget that.

There's a distinct possibility she uses her religion as a way to reaffirm that she's a good girl while she gets ran through.

A Cali-born Muslima who goes to the Berkeley none the less; I think that any American Muslim who self-identifies as such also tends to also latch onto a variety of leftists beliefs and is usually obnoxious in pushing both muh peaceful Islam and socjus beliefs at the same time.


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IMO, the only modern muslim sects that can be considered entirely peaceful are the Ahmadis and modern Ismalis (plus some Sufi & syncretic sects), and even those tend to be considered 'not Muslim enough' by mainstream Sunni schools.
 
A Cali-born Muslima who goes to the Berkeley none the less; I think that any American Muslim who self-identifies as such also tends to also latch onto a variety of leftists beliefs and is usually obnoxious in pushing both muh peaceful Islam and socjus beliefs at the same time.
I wonder what she'll do when she goes on Haiji and sees how submissive Muslim women are.
 
A touching story, but aren't we in the 21st century? You shouldn't have to have the same damn religion to marry if you really love the person.
And the children? How are you going to raise the children? Hell, what does it mean that the Muslim wouldn't be trying to convert the Hindu? After all, one side considers Hinduism the basis of their identity, the other side believes that not being a faithful Muslim guarantees you eternal damnation, and the religions are fundamentally incompatible since Hinduism is polytheistic.

To make the point more simply: does a Christian have any business marrying a theistic Satanist?
 
I wonder what she'll do when she goes on Haiji and sees how submissive Muslim women are.
Nah, since the Hajj is basically like Disneyland these days, with package deals and Starbucks and whatnot. All the edges have been smoothed out and the visitor only sees the monuments built by Saudi Petrowealth.

"Wow during the hajj I swear I never experienced such an unity in belief across all races ❤️❤️❤️, met soooo many amazing girls on this trip who are so modest and yet rich in their souls ❤️❤️❤️"
 
Being a good Muslima I'm sure she didn't give those up. Her ass, however, was probably a different story.
Is... is that common? I went to schools with sizable Muslim populations (the women wore headscarves, too), but I never got any sense of it going that far. I mean, for a lot of them Muslims, talking with guys may as well be as bad as tooting up, but I'm pretty sure that even the most lax had a deathly fear of their parents sending them back to the motherland or worse if they managed to get found out for doing some demon hoe sh-- you know, now that I type that, maybe they were just really good at hiding.

It's actually interesting to see over a long enough timeline, what are likely the fruits of a struggle between daughter and parents. They don't put on their hijab for a month or so, or maybe they doff it for special occasions like dances (oh yeah, some attend dances). Or they start off not wearing it, but end up wearing it all of a sudden while talking weird and confiding in friends in a way that almost resembles a child abuse situation. Or they freely talk to you and build up a rapport but then cut ties entirely and don a niqab by the time you get to uni. Maybe you just continue talking just fine. There are definitely those who don the hijab that seek to mitigate the blowup from their parents on account of talking to/dating a guy by making sure that they date a Muslim man of their ethnicity. I've heard of someone being a devout Muslim girl as a high school freshman only for her to flip in a year to someone who's only real defining Muslim characteristic is the fact that she dons a hijab.

All this variation and sharp instability when the rules are literally "don't date boys, and don't talk to boys if you don't need to". It's not just the daughters-- sometimes, it's the parents crossing them so bad they break their ankles trying to keep up.
 
Is... is that common? I went to schools with sizable Muslim populations (the women wore headscarves, too), but I never got any sense of it going that far. I mean, for a lot of them Muslims, talking with guys may as well be as bad as tooting up, but I'm pretty sure that even the most lax had a deathly fear of their parents sending them back to the motherland or worse if they managed to get found out for doing some demon hoe sh-- you know, now that I type that, maybe they were just really good at hiding.

It's actually interesting to see over a long enough timeline, what are likely the fruits of a struggle between daughter and parents. They don't put on their hijab for a month or so, or maybe they doff it for special occasions like dances (oh yeah, some attend dances). Or they start off not wearing it, but end up wearing it all of a sudden while talking weird and confiding in friends in a way that almost resembles a child abuse situation. Or they freely talk to you and build up a rapport but then cut ties entirely and don a niqab by the time you get to uni. Maybe you just continue talking just fine. There are definitely those who don the hijab that seek to mitigate the blowup from their parents on account of talking to/dating a guy by making sure that they date a Muslim man of their ethnicity. I've heard of someone being a devout Muslim girl as a high school freshman only for her to flip in a year to someone who's only real defining Muslim characteristic is the fact that she dons a hijab.

All this variation and sharp instability when the rules are literally "don't date boys, and don't talk to boys if you don't need to". It's not just the daughters-- sometimes, it's the parents crossing them so bad they break their ankles trying to keep up.
Common enough, but there usually has to be enough distance from the family for them to have the opportunity. For Islam, technical virginity is what they care about, so as long as they remain "unpopped" and manage to keep it under wraps enough, it's all good. Also see hymen reconstruction surgery.

Just don't get caught. Remember that Islam is an Abrahamic religion and contains aspects of the other two, but it certainly behaves more like the worst aspects of the oldest one. Letter of the law, not the spirit of it.
 
Just don't get caught. Remember that Islam is an Abrahamic religion and contains aspects of the other two, but it certainly behaves more like the worst aspects of the oldest one. Letter of the law, not the spirit of it.
But Christianity speaks of following both letter and spirit of the law...
 
But Christianity speaks of following both letter and spirit of the law...
It does, I suppose you could argue Christianity proceeds modern Judaism, I tend to think of it as the continuation of the Pharisees. Things like flicking light switches being work sounds like the autistic legalism they engaged in. Being technically correct but missing the point. Islam very much seems to share that mindset, with the autistic need to have every little thing spelled out. Like Ramadan, technically a fast, but they gorge in the evening, defeating the point and just making them angry, or hangry as it were.
 
Several verses of the Quran prohibit zina, including 24:2 which says it should be punished with 100 lashes. However, on the basis of hadith, the penalty for an offender who is muhsan (adult, free, Muslim, and married at least once) is stoning to death (rajm).
 
And the children? How are you going to raise the children? Hell, what does it mean that the Muslim wouldn't be trying to convert the Hindu? After all, one side considers Hinduism the basis of their identity, the other side believes that not being a faithful Muslim guarantees you eternal damnation, and the religions are fundamentally incompatible since Hinduism is polytheistic.

To make the point more simply: does a Christian have any business marrying a theistic Satanist?
Dunno, maybe let the kid(s) decide on what religion to do once they can make choices? My point is, people should not let religion dictate their relationships.

Mormons can marry who ever they want for example, but to do the true and honest temple weddings which is an eternal seal, the non-Mormon would have to convert and get endowed.
 
That was my comedy. It's also proper Christian doctrine, which is why the Evangelical fondness for the trappings of what's effectively the religion of the Pharisees is so disheartening.
Me as well. But it's because of their ignorance to what Pharisidic Judaism became, what with the Talmud and all. If they wanted to follow Paul's command to be respectful of Jews, I think the closest ones to what he would have considered Jews would be the Karaites and I'm pretty sure they're considered Heretics for focusing on the Torah alone. I once pondered the Roman Empire had a huge population of Jews and outside of the rebellions in Judea didn't have any reason to annihilate them so what happened to them? I simply assumed most of them converted to Christianity after the Temple fell, except the ones that hated it the most. It was like finding a missing puzzle piece.

Several verses of the Quran prohibit zina, including 24:2 which says it should be punished with 100 lashes. However, on the basis of hadith, the penalty for an offender who is muhsan (adult, free, Muslim, and married at least once) is stoning to death (rajm).
Would they really be muslims without some level of hypocracy though? She was just letting that non-muslim plow her ass in an attempt to convert him. It's a sexual form of Jihad, it clearly doesn't count.
 
I feel like this article was written by an attention whore butthurt over not being able to get someone she wanted and the Islam thing is an excuse given by some of the behaviors of herself described by her. Sometimes stuff doesn't work out and move on. There are plenty of muzzies who drink and stuff if she is not into the religious muzzies.
 
>Pakistani
>Muslim
>Woman
You're not a person to your own culture, be quiet.
>"I will never convert to Islam"
BASED HINDU, MUZZIE THOT BTFO
 
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