Hurricane Milton

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Selfie time!
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Meriasek said:
Don't forget to wiggle the straps and say "That's not going anywhere".
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I wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but the maximum pullout resistance I could find for a consumer grade soil anchor was like 2300lb and there’s just no way to make that math work.

It might keep some of his roof sheathing from detaching? It likely won’t make the difference if the winds are strong enough to take the whole roof off. It’s not going to protect his shingles or protect the roof from debris impact.

Oddly, if the guy had just used 3-4 more straps he really would have gotten somewhere in terms of keeping the whole roof on, assuming the soil anchors are properly installed and the soil isn’t too loose.
 
reptile baht spaniard rid said:
Yeah, the main danger to a plane in a storm is wind shear, e.g., being pushed into the ground by a thunderstorm downdraft.
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I’ve flown through a severe depression with storm force winds before. Not a big airliner, either, just a little Jetstream 32. The wind shear kept dropping us, over and over, like riding the worlds shittiest rollercoaster for over an hour. Worst flight I’ve ever had, the whole cabin smelled of vomit by the time we eventually landed, which took multiple attempts, and we were the last plane in before they closed the runway due to the weather.
God, it was horrible.
 
An entirely different group of selfie-takers on this one stretch of coast as I tab back in. I don't think this bodes well for the Florida Man death toll.
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NSA Intern said:
An entirely different group of selfie-takers on this one stretch of coast as I tab back in. I don't think this bodes well for the Florida Man death toll.
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Key West has basically fuckall to do with where the business end of this storm is, you might as well be concerned about a mugging at the Empire State building affecting flights at Laguardia Airport
 
NSA Intern said:
Selfie time!
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I love how he's in the "viewer discretion advised" camera too. But the reality is, anyone stupid enough standing there now could get washed away in an instant. You might actually see someone die while watching the camera. You need to understand while watching it. The warning should be bigger on the screen.
 
glass_houses said:
Apparently one of the escape routes, Alligator Alley, has been blocked by a car fire? I'm trying to find some screepcaps, but in the brief snatches of video that the NBC2 live stream has shown, it looks like a lithium battery fire.
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It's a Chinese EV isn't it?

XYZpdq Jr. said:
Key West has basically fuckall to do with where the business end of this storm is, you might as well be concerned about a mugging at the Empire State building affecting flights at Laguardia Airport
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Why are they showing that, then? Is there a better live feed, with more relevant cameras?
 
reptile baht spaniard rid said:
Further on the turboprop question a few things I found:
  • There are very few high-wing jets, and high wing planes have advantages, especially for observation (there's not a wing in the way looking down). Some turboprops are low-wing, though.
  • Turboprops give you instant throttle response, jets take quite a while to spool back up (this is why a jet may land under throttle in serious wind conditions so they have the option of going around)
  • The planes used were designed to be beat to fuck landing on rocks and shit, so they can take a bump
  • Turboprops are much better at low-speed flight, jets can slow down but their stall speed is usually quite high (you could design one but nobody does because the purpose of a jet is fast and efficient)
  • Turboprops need shorter runways so they can use more airfields in total, especially out in the middle of fucking nowhere
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Planefags are some of my favorite internet factoid groups. Y'all are so precious.
 
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I generally hate change when it comes to the NWS products that are created for dissemination, but this new experimental cone is great. Showing the inland tropical storm and hurricane products as part of the classic cone makes it much easier for the average person to understand the size of the storm.
 
It’s funny because I had said to my mom yesterday afternoon “damn I hope that HWRF model isn’t correct because a hurricane hitting north of Tampa would really intensify those storm surges.”

I wake up this morning and all the projections are north of Tampa. Buckle up folks. We have achieved a worse case scenario hurricane for Tampa.
 
Surprised Pikachu said:
Living in a very boring part if the world I’m slightly in awe of all of this. Things really are bigger in America eh?

Thoughts and prayers for everyone even remotely affected by this. Look out for yourselves, each other and spare a thought for the animals too, your asshole neighbour might not want to leave but Tiddles might and if you have a space then evacuate what and who you can. Be safe everyone.

Makes me wonder how people dealt with things like this in ye olden days without satellite information giving you weeks heads up. I guess you just knew when to generally expect it and to listen to nature (or the lack of it) telling you a storm is coming. Can you ‘feel’ it? Is there more ozone, more electrical energy in the air, a quietness ‘a calm before the storm’? And kudos to the airforce for flying into in. Sounds like a very stupid idea to me but it’s for science and I guess incredibly cool. Good Luck out there.
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Well, for one thing, until A/C was invented there was not a huge population in Florida/along the coasts. Not just the heat kept people out, it was the fevers and other diseases that ran through killing people off.

Secondly, it’s only really been the last 70 years that we started building stupidly expensive houses on sandbars. Before that a person might build a “beach house”, but it was usually pretty much a cheap shack for camping. So when a big ocean storm came through and destroyed it, you weren’t out a bunch of money.
 
Doggo said:
autism alert: I’m a huge weather geek. I love storm chasing, and on some chases have driven over 1,000km in a day, so I’ve been watching this one as closely as my work will allow. The figure that spun me out was the ocean surface temperature of 31C. I didn’t know it could even go that high. That’s a fuckload of potential energy, no wonder the storm is so powerful.

Keep safe, everyone. You’ll get through this.

Edit: to emphasise how high this ocean temperature figure is; heated pools aren’t even that warm. That’s absolutely off tap.
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Naples ma here thank you. Right now everything is chill but who knows. Been through enough of these to be cautiously optimistic about my odds right now.
 
FMW13 said:
Naples ma here thank you. Right now everything is chill but who knows. Been through enough of these to be cautiously optimistic about my odds right now.
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My gf is flabbergasted that Florida man was just starting to flee over the past two days. I had to explain to her that this is literally every year for you garbage people.
 
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