How much masturbation is too much?

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WelperHelper99 said:
Apparently 62 times before a heart attack
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"The young man was on his bed… his penis was detached from his body, it must have been so intense it just came off his body, we found his penis gripped in his left hand so tightly we couldn’t get it out, it was tragic”.
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I guess those old school Christians telling people your dick will fall off if you masturbate were telling the truth
 
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Catler said:
I don't enjoy being abused, but I do enjoy jerking off.

Explain that one 🤔
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Self abuse and being abused are different things. You may find a perverse joy in one but hate and fear the other rightly.

If enjoying masturbation is evidence it isn't really self abuse, can't a child abuser or rapist claim enjoying the abuse of a victim as evidence it isn't abusing the victim?

If you want an explanation of how I recognize it to be self abuse:

I think you need to judge the tree by the fruit it bears.
Matthew 7:16-17 You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
In Matthew 7 the principle is taught in relation to judging true from false prophets, but it can be logically extended to discerning most things.

Sex is for uniting and bringing children into the world within loving marriages, as masturbation is a misuse of this gift it is disordered. The isolating, dehumanizing and objectifying, addictive qualities of the habit are it's toxic rotten fruits, as opposed to the nourishing living fruits of the family that has generation after generation.

Enjoying something can be a sign it is good and natural (e.g. drinking clean safe water when thirsty) but it can be very misleading, drinking the same clean water, under the same conditions, but with a tiny amount of contamination added could cost you your life. Compare the typical innocuous cups of tea drank in London, compared the polonium contaminated tea given to Litvinenko that fateful day.

In short you tell the good from the bad not just at a glance, but by what it does to you (or someone else), particularly after a season or two, like fruit ripening. E.g. a meth addict may keep a job for a few weeks or months or longer, not showing tell tale signs, a bit like a secret drinker hiding alcoholism. This is key to correctly identifying if some action or practice is ordered or disordered.
 
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