hoe_math - Relationship/Dating Youtuber

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Breadbassket

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hoe_math is a male Relationship and Dating Youtuber. He is said to have a huge ego and a high opinion of himself and kind of falls into the Manosphere part of the Internet.

He now has a Lolcow thread on the site.

Here are some of his most popular videos to get an idea of what he makes:
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He apparently like to responds with criticism with an argument pyramid and may be what can be called a chubby chaser:
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Here is an interesting post he made.

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He did turn his internet fame into a girlfriend, went on about his vetting of her, and then it blow up in his face and he kind of bottomed out after that. A little too much trying to Save The West. He's directional correct on a lot of things, but the only part of the Manosphere worth listening to, the Rule Zero guys, aren't fans. His ego and reinventing the wheel and so on.
 
Breadbassket said:
It seems like he is capable of making some good points but as of this time he has lost the plot.
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Pretty much. The Rule Zero guys dislike is mostly because their view of the redpill space is that it's for improving men's lives and sexual strategies and nothing else. It's not about saving the West, it's help men get what they want out of life. Navigating the world the way it is, not worrying about the way things should be or aught to be. A lot of them started with helping guys salvage dead bedroom relationships and the like.

hoe_math makes a lot of good points, but before you worry about "saving the west," get your own shit in order.
 
I feel like he's kinda made the same couple points that hypergamy exists/alleging only woman do this (for jamal) for a while now, and that all women are apparently clinical sociopaths.

It's not really evolved that much based on the last videos I've seen. He's also a lot more active on facebook as of writing. Not sure whats clips and whats new videos. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61554675291951
 
I don't know much about him. Sometimes his videos get recommended to me but I always avoid them. I tried watching a couple but I found them unfunny and boring, even if I agreed with some of his points, the way he presented them sucks. I also thought it was cringe when on the one video I watched he talked about how he thinks at a higher level than most people and he sounded 100% serious.

Not sure who his videos are meant to appeal to but clearly it isn't me.
 
Breadbassket said:
Not really, it's just a place to discuss hoe_math. If someone makes a Lolcow thread on him and it gets out of Prospering Grounds maybe this thread can be replaced by that one.
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I will say this though, the argument pyramid is a good idea for people not worth your time. However, if that’s the case, why even waste time on them with a picture?

It’s better as a poster in your office with the title “Should I argue with strangers today?”
 
Hoe is not interesting on his own, but he seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator among the incel/MGTOW crowd. He should stop watching Black women TikTok and get laid instead. Drawing diagrams about how women don't want to fuck you is not especially conductive to romantic success.
 
I think he needs to stop consuming TikTok ragebait, go outside and realise the vast majority of couples you see outside are relatively in the same league as one another, and seem to be having a good time. I'm not saying hypergamy doesn't real (though I will say it's not unique to women, all people want the best for themselves at the end of the day, men just have less choices) but these niggas really overdo it.
 
Serious Question: Is there an audience for male dating advice outside of guys with the tism and literal teenagers? Females seeking dating advice I get, its an excuse to yap about their problems and seek validation. But with guys, I dont get it. Dating isn't that hard unless you have kids or the personality of a bologna sandwich, and this isnt coming from a "hook-up artist that slays pussy" Im just as retarded as the average tismo if not more so and I can work my way around this shit without hours of videos telling me "what a girl's tampon says about her."
 
Ducks Sorted in a Row said:
I'm not saying hypergamy doesn't real (though I will say it's not unique to women, all people want the best for themselves at the end of the day, men just have less choices) but these niggas really overdo it.
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Even Rollo Tomassi would tell you that Hypergamy isn't a good or bad thing, it's just a thing and while it can work against you, it can also work for you. If a woman is with you it's because you were her Hypergamous best option. People misread it to think that women are always, constantly looking to trade up, most aren't. You just have to stay her best option, which is dressed in overalls and looks like work, but that's just part of being in a relationship. Getting the girl isn't the end, it's just another step.

People take too many redpills too fast and end up oneshotting themselves. It's sad.
 
Breadbassket said:
It should be noted that hoe_math has some links with the Internet Famous WhatifAltHist / Rudyard Lynch since they are both Honorary Fellows and YouTube Influencers for the Natural Law Institute.

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Natural Law Institute was founded by Curt Doolittle. The very same Curt Doolittle that pissed his pants in front of a Black guy. The dude who created of propertarianism. Great video by Metokur.
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Bit of a faggot, sloptuber extraordinaire. I don't hate him completely since I agree with some of his takes but the presentation, the smugness and the cult of personality is really fucking awful. He reminds me of an ex army old guy who does similar reaction content to trannies and women, tried to milk it and came off as a faggot. Tbf I hate all of these people, the counter culture "pro male" sloptubers like this guy, decoyvoice, the army guy, kangmin lee, everyone. They turn looking at the freakshow and giving advice into faggotry.
 
YHWH's Strongest Soldier said:
Hoe is not interesting on his own, but he seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator among the incel/MGTOW crowd. He should stop watching Black women TikTok and get laid instead. Drawing diagrams about how women don't want to fuck you is not especially conductive to romantic success.
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We kind of have a collapsing birthrate to prove that women aren't fucking anyone.
 
Daddy's Angry Juice said:
Serious Question: Is there an audience for male dating advice outside of guys with the tism and literal teenagers? Females seeking dating advice I get, its an excuse to yap about their problems and seek validation. But with guys, I dont get it. Dating isn't that hard unless you have kids or the personality of a bologna sandwich, and this isnt coming from a "hook-up artist that slays pussy" Im just as retarded as the average tismo if not more so and I can work my way around this shit without hours of videos telling me "what a girl's tampon says about her."
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Its not male dating advice, its frustration and rage venting. People are realizing the system is dysfunctional and hoemath is an outlet.

BradeRunna said:
We kind of have a collapsing birthrate to prove that women aren't fucking anyone.
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At this point its not specifically women, its society is fundamentally setup in nearly every possible to dissuade people from pairing up marrying and having children. Women do
 
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