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she’s considering another presidential run, telling a New York City audience on Friday that she would be well suited to the office.

During a far-ranging interview with Kara Swisher of the technology website Recode(Ms. Swisher is also a contributor to The Times’s Opinion section), Mrs. Clinton initially said “no” when asked whether she wanted to run for president again. She then paused and repeated “no.”

But after Ms. Swisher noted the slight hesitation, Mrs. Clinton seemed to reconsider her response, saying that a major task of the next Democratic president will be improving the international standing of the United States.

“Well, I’d like to be president,” she said, during the public taping at the 92nd Street Y of Ms. Swisher’s podcast. "The work would be work that I feel very well prepared for having been at the Senate for eight years, having been a diplomat in the State Department, and it’s just going to be a lot of heavy lifting.”

Mrs. Clinton has become a more visible presence in recent weeks, increasing the number of her public appearances and raising money for Democrats across the country. Last week, she spoke at a fund-raiser for Donna Shalala, a former Clinton administration official, who is running for a House seat in Florida.

“She will always be a winner and I’ll always be with her,” said Ms. Shalala, introducing Mrs. Clinton to a room full of 200 Democratic donors in Miami.

Mrs. Clinton said she wouldn’t consider a possible run in 2020 until after the midterm elections next week.

“I’m not even going to even think about it until we get through this Nov. 6 election,” she said. “But I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure we have a Democrat in the White House come January of 2021.”

Should she mount a third presidential bid, Mrs. Clinton would be entering a Democratic field crowded with potential contenders, a major shift from 2016, when nearly no Democrats were eager to challenge her.

Mrs. Clinton said she expects a crowded field of as many as 20 Democrats.

“I think we’d have a number of excellent candidates who would be really formidable on the campaign trail, but let’s wait and see who it is,” she said. "I’m just going to wait and watch what happens.”

Mrs. Clinton dismissed some of the calls for her to retreat from public life as sexist.

“There were no articles telling Al Gore to go away or John Kerry to go away or John McCain or Mitt Romney to go away,” she said. “Mitt Romney is going to the Senate, that’s where he’s going.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/...njrGrvSt4OQXEaaRhIucX1lF0uxBqgQZE1z56E4Giq7xU
 
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I still remember that weird post-election period where people were (at least claiming to be) running into Hillary at the grocery store and random forests, wandering around like a lost soul. Then she showed up at her first speech since the loss looking like Death. Then her book came out and the list of people she blamed for losing became a spicy meme...and she still looked pretty bad.

Since then, she really hasn't done very much. If you want to establish yourself as a serious contender, you try to keep active. I don't think she can. You don't have to be a conspiracy buff to see she still has some meaningful health concerns. Her level of activity is probably conditioned on a steady supply of medication. It was noticeable enough in 2016, and I think it's a big reason her physical presence on the campaign trail barely hit the minimum, whereas Trump would pack his day with interviews and rallies and just keep going, going, going. That gulf in physical stamina between them isn't talked up too often, but it was very observable during the election. Trump just didn't seem to sleep, whereas Hillary tired easily.

That was 2016. In 2020, she will be four years older, still living a largely sedentary lifestyle, being helped in and out of cars, and doped up on her worst days to keep going. And she'd be signing up for all the stress of the campaign trail, all the stress of the air travel and the long speeches, all the stress of the debates with a walking one-man barroom brawl of trash talk, and all the stress of losing to him again. Probably even worse than last time.

I really think anyone in her inner circle who is seriously encouraging her to do this is actually just pushing her to die.
 
I really think anyone in her inner circle who is seriously encouraging her to do this is actually just pushing her to die.

I hope she does. She is really just a complete mess and a distraction from anything that might be successful.

If she ran she would be still taking advice from the same morons who thought publicly having rage seizures about a cartoon frog was how to win. Democrats have followed her lead since then, thinking literally everything is a secret Nazi symbol, from the "OK" hand symbol to literal milk.
 
I'd like to see her try. Her campaign platform will be getting all her paid shills to scream THIS TIME VOTE RIGHT, YOU PLEBS at the voters, who promptly plug their ears and continue to go about their day.

*I mean vote right as in vote correctly, but you know it'll just inspire people to vote for the right.
 
A plank of wood with a face drawn on it is qualified to be VP.
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This is how you ensure Republican dominance in the left's traditional demographic. I.E. unionized blue collar industrial workers
 
Does she just own the DNC or are there just no good democrats?
The one leads to the other. Since she owns the DNC, none of the up-and-coming Democrats wanted to challenge her. At best they'd acquire the stench of failure, and at worst they'd get blacklisted by the Hillary machine. It's not a coincidence that her only serious primary opponent wasn't even a Democrat till 5 minutes before he entered the race.

Now, with very little effort or work on her part she can make sure this all stays true for another 4 years, while at the same time again draining the democrat's money.
I don't think we should necessarily be celebrating this. We need at least two rational, functioning parties operating on the national level if we're ever to have accountable politicians.
 
Is Hillary basically the left’s Mitt Romney/John McCain?
No, those two didn't spend years moping about their loss and blaming everyone else for their failure.

They also took the hint and didn't try to run for president again, whereas there's talks of this bitch tripling down.
 
No, those two didn't spend years moping about their loss and blaming everyone else for their failure.

They also took the hint and didn't try to run for president again, whereas there's talks of this bitch tripling down.

I mean considering McCain ran for president in 2000 and Romney in 2008, I kinda disagree especially since iirc Romney may try to run again which is why he is running for senate.
 
I mean considering McCain ran for president in 2000 and Romney in 2008, I kinda disagree especially since iirc Romney may try to run again which is why he is running for senate.

I wouldn't begrudge Romney or Kerry for running in 2024/2020 (respectively). They lost, licked their wounds, hopefully learned some lessons, and coming back a few cycles later is fine. What Clinton's doing is running for President for the third time in a row, while doubling down on what made her lose.
 
I wouldn't begrudge Romney or Kerry for running in 2024/2020 (respectively). They lost, licked their wounds, hopefully learned some lessons, and coming back a few cycles later is fine. What Clinton's doing is running for President for the third time in a row, while doubling down on what made her lose.

Maybe she'll take the Pocahontas route and pose as a brave non-binary demigirl who's persecuted by the GOP. I mean, with her pantsuits, she could pull off the non-binary part.
 
I wouldn't begrudge Romney or Kerry for running in 2024/2020 (respectively). They lost, licked their wounds, hopefully learned some lessons, and coming back a few cycles later is fine. What Clinton's doing is running for President for the third time in a row, while doubling down on what made her lose.

She lost the primary to a man whose name was a couple consonants from being "Iraq Hussein Osama" and then barely won a rigged primary against a self-avowed socialist who looks like he sleeps on a park bench, and then lost to a blithering idiot who has been a public clown since the '80s. She is hopeless. She just needs to fuck off and (preferably literally) die.
 
I mean considering McCain ran for president in 2000 and Romney in 2008, I kinda disagree especially since iirc Romney may try to run again which is why he is running for senate.

They lost a primary and never faced the actual national election. There's a difference between losing the primary and sticking around as a backup down the line if their main guy loses and setting up a presidential election re-match, something Democrats are the only American political party to have done with Adlai Stevenson in the 50's and William Jennings Bryan around the turn of the century.

If Romney actually does make it to the top of a future Republican ticket you'd have a point.
 
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