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[Next Task]

Also when it comes "how its Crunch Roll's fault", I'm pretty sure it was CR that put the camera in front of them, and they might have even told them what to say.

CrunchyRoll should never have greenlit the show in the first place, it's true. But none of the people behind it, especially Raye and Kate Leth, have a personality outside being dangerhairs. There's no reason to tell them what to say if the point of the video is to promote wokeness and the importance of their all-woman (yes, the trans man counts) team, as that's the only language they speak.

They tried to sell it on pure diversity terms from the start, which suggests they knew it was a shitshow even then. Nothing that has quality needs to be advertised by its wokeness and behind the scenes representation.

That HGS got made at all is CrunchyRoll's fault. That it was as shit as it is comes down much more on Raye than she'd ever admit, considering she's had this concept for years and still blames crunch for the script problems.

 

[omori]

Again. This could have been possible through crowd funding but Raye thinks far too much of herself and her pet project.

Budget affects what the crew is paid not their ability to write and there’s plenty of million dollar movies out there who have failed to impress anyone. And storytelling regardless the media needs a finalized script for it to go anywhere; I’m honestly not sure who is more of the incompetent retard here, Raye thinking the crew could make a masterpiece out of rough storyboards and a frankensteined scrap of an idea or crunchy roll who sent the half baked idea to the gallows from the beginning.

Also don’t sign up to a public forum, share your ideas and opinions and throw a hissy fit when others share their own ideas and opinions in return, sweetie.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Reason number gazillion Raye makes for a terrible content creator: She's realizing too late "don't like, don't read/watch" doesn't apply here when money's on the line.

 

[A Very Big Fish]

Thanks to the creators of this show being speds on Twitter, I remembered that this abortion of a show exists.

I'd love to see what HGS would have looked like if they had all the budget they wanted. Specifically because I don't think they'd manage to salvage anything better except maybe bothering to pay an audio engineer that knows how microphones work.

 

[Faggitory]

I'd love to see what HGS would have looked like if they had all the budget they wanted.

Probably a show that looked great, but is still terrible. You can hire voice actors to read lines well, but if the lines are bad, its just going to be stupid dialogue read by professionals.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I'd love to see what HGS would have looked like if they had all the budget they wanted.

Frankly I don't think it would have been any different, in fact I think that an effectively unlimited budget would mean the show languished in production hell forever since more budget=more time and they never would have been kicked in the ass to release it.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

So which heroine do you look up to the most, Raye, Hikaru from Magic Knight Rayearth or Madoka from Madoka Magica? You really wanted to be a magical girl that badly, didn't you? Lots of little girls wanted to be like Sailor Moon or Sakura Avalon/Kinomoto, too, princess, you're not special for idolizing a magical girl. Warping Madoka into a mini-you is the most narcissistic you can ever do as an aspiring creator, however.

Disgusting.

Hikaru is an amazing character. She had to commit a murder to save a world and that let her so traumatized that her guilt was the theme of the next season and even created a whole being made of grief.

This thing allegedly was inspired by Rayearth and can see why, but the final product is a lame attempt.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

I feel a little weird saying this, but, when others keep saying tha the animation in High Guardian Spice is horrendous, I... just do not feel that? I mean, while I can clearly see the pasted-in photographs, the actual animation does not seem bad to me. That is almost definitely because I am used to this type of limited animation and simplified colouring from all those cartoons I saw in Jetix or Disney XD.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I feel a little weird saying this, but, when others keep saying tha the animation in High Guardian Spice is horrendous, I... just do not feel that? I mean, while I can clearly see the pasted-in photographs, the actual animation does not seem bad to me. That is almost definitely because I am used to this type of limited animation and simplified colouring from all those cartoons I saw in Jetix or Disney XD.

The animation isn't a crime against humanity or anything, but it really is not up to a modern standard and it looks and feels cheap.

 

[Randall Fragg]

I eagerly await until someone pulls a Ghost stories on this shit and makes a semi-official abridged dub that is infinitely superior to the original product.

Ditto. I want to see what can be spun out of this garbage via dubbing and shitposts.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Ditto. I want to see what can be spun out of this garbage via dubbing and shitposts.

I used to do some minor Abridged voicing in stuff. If anyone on here does want to put something together, I’d be down.

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

Lol Raye, if you're a man, grow a thicker skin and act like one instead of a woman bleeding from her eyes, her wherever soyboy.

Raye needs to grow some balls and admit failure like a real man.

 

[Koby_Fish]

Sad to see John Canemaker involved on this. He did more than Raye could ever accomplish.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EUSwmVwlbUE

HOLY CRAP! The mad goat bit from freakin' SESAME STREET? That was John Canemaker? Good lord he must be old (hell, I'm old, and I saw it when it premiered on Sesame Street!). I wonder if he got woke too...

 

[Judge Dredd]

As if she wasn't also a diversity hire.

She is, but I don't think she was in on the con so to speak.

All of the diversity was there to collect a paycheck and get out with the minimum amount of work. Raye thought this would be their magnum opus and a mega hit to rival the likes of Harry Potter and Sailor Moon, and that's why she's so mad on Twitter.

 

[BScCollateral]

I think the whole saga shows how bigoted hiring practices (only white women can write!) can and will make the final product appalling. I will give them points for creating their own IP instead of ruining an existing one, but my general observation that the writing in modern TV/Video/Cinema doesn't rise to the level of decent fanfic stands. I don't have an explanation, but it seems mainstream media has chased off every decent writer, and I can't imagine how they did it.

I will also bet a doughnut the words "If this tranny shit stays in, pitch it for a mature audience" were spoken at some point; then and only then do our preteen protagonists start saying "shit" and "bastard" and splashing blood around in the most hilarious gore scenes since Monty Python showed Sam Peckinpah's Salad Days.

I'm still mixed about blaming the writing in the final product on the budget. I think crunch might explain clumsy dialog, but not the general incoherence. Why doesn't the refugee from an ecological disaster bring up the Rot to the Guardians? It seems that ecological disaster should be in their wheelhouse.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

If only there'd been an animated show recently released with a budget of a Taco Bell Gift Card that had stormed the internet recently.

Spoiler: If Only

 

[Judge Dredd]

I will also bet a doughnut the words "If this tranny shit stays in, pitch it for a mature audience" were spoken at some point; then and only then do our preteen protagonists start saying "shit" and "bastard" and splashing blood around in the most hilarious gore scenes since Monty Python showed Sam Peckinpah's Salad Days.

I'm not so sure. Wokists have no problems with putting "tranny shit" in kids shows. Bill Nye springs to mind. I remember a bit of reeing when Steven Universe cut a gay kiss from the British broadcast, and She-Ra ended with a gay kiss.

I think this is yet another symptom of writing to a woke audience by woke creators. It's hard to put into words, but look at the number of left leaning lolcows that enjoy childrens entertainment like Pokemon, Harry Potter, and Mario Brothers. This isn't a problem in isolation, but when you include their behaviour as a whole, such as childish temper tantrums, black and white thinking, etc. It points to a childish mindset, or a form of damage that doesn't want to deal with anything more advanced.

It's a childrens magical girl show with swearing and blood because that's what they, as an adult, want. It's the entertainment equivalent of those "daycare centres for adults" that were mocked years ago.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I don't have an explanation, but it seems mainstream media has chased off every decent writer, and I can't imagine how they did it.

The Writer's Guild of America strike of 2007 was the beginning of the end. Remember that shows that were still airing at the time were either canceled prematurely as a result, or if they stayed on the air and continued afterwards, the quality notably dropped. The talented writers never returned to the industry. Cheap, newbie writers did, and they never got better.

Also this:

but my general observation that the writing in modern TV/Video/Cinema doesn't rise to the level of decent fanfic stands.

We live in an age of the fanboy where the average adult in the entertainment business has at some point or another actually written fan fiction. It's a double-edged sword, and the woke mindset isn't helping. I will still swear until my face turns blue that the Legendary Monsterverse has been some of the best fanboy movies to have come out in modern day, because the people who worked on those movies actually love monster movies, especially tokusatsu/Godzilla, and they knew how to portray Godzilla and gang in a way that was still familiar while adding new ideas and lore unique to that universe.

I get Raye's enthusiasm from a few years back, I get that she at one point actually loved magical girl anime, but she let her ideas get poisoned by outside influences. She let her ideas stagnate instead of polishing things up. She let her influences dictate its look instead of just using them as a foundation to build something new upon. She sorta has her own style, but it's still not enough of a disguise, especially since she left behind a paper trail (which isn't usually a bad thing to do in case you get claims of plagiarism) that proves Rosemary was created as an "OC donut steal" of Madoka who uses a sword like Hikaru. Yet the only thing she changed about Rosemary's design over the years was she dropped the ribbons in her hair because it was too goddamn obvious, and her selfies that show she once had pink hair around that time she made Rosemary doesn't help her case.

Now whose idea was it to have hired Kate Leth to have been a main writer for the series? Most of the problems with the writing were a combination of Raye and Kate's, but you just know for sure most of the issues came from Kate. Did the two write the scripts together, or did they barely interact the entire time? The fact Raye doesn't bring up the people who were "heart and soul" of the series outside of herself while she cries blood over it makes me think she didn't actually make friends with or has any respect for the production team.

 

[starborn427614]

I'm sympathetic to how hard it can be to create animation, but as an industry professional and especially as a showrunner you should stick to giving constructive interviews about what did and didn't work with your show. Don't burn bridges, don't stomp your feet.

 

[RockHawk]

We live in an age of the fanboy where the average adult in the entertainment business has at some point or another actually written fan fiction.

I dont think this by itself is an inherently bad thing. Fanfiction of all kinds is an important first step into real writing for most authors. The big issue is that too many people never escape that level of work, so that even when they're writing something "original" like Raye, they dont know how to do anything beyond blatantly copying other works to create their own.