Opinion Here’s What MAGA Gets Wrong About Testosterone - "In particularly prickly corners of MAGA world, a low-blow way of dissing the men you despise — often left-leaning guys with a fondness for empathy, equality, even democracy — is to charge them with having low levels of testosterone."

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By Robert M. Sapolsky
Dr. Sapolsky is a neuroscientist and primatologist.
Jan. 1, 2026, 5:00 a.m. ET

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I was observing a 9-year-old male baboon in the Serengeti of East Africa one day in 1983. Baboon troops are very hierarchical, and this baboon was a familiar type — a young macho bruiser on the way up, intent on toppling the alpha male.

But the alpha male, busy grooming a young female, paid little heed as his challenger threw threatening eyebrow flashes and bared his canines. It was only when the younger baboon got even closer, making guttural vocalizations and slapping the ground, that the alpha stopped and stared at his antagonist for a tension-filled moment. Then the alpha went back to grooming, paying no attention to the histrionics, leaving his challenger to stomp away in frustration.

My research on these baboons has shown that a well-entrenched, confident alpha male gets into very few fights — and typically has lower testosterone levels than a frenetic challenger.

In particularly prickly corners of MAGA world, a low-blow way of dissing the men you despise — often left-leaning guys with a fondness for empathy, equality, even democracy — is to charge them with having low levels of testosterone. Take Elon Musk, who a while back reposted a screed about how “low T” men can’t think freely because they “can’t defend themselves physically.” Or consider the “soy boy” insult popular a few years ago in the same circles, based on the false idea that chemical compounds in soy feminize men’s hormonal makeup.

Beyond my own research, decades of data show that testosterone does not ensure dominance, nor does it act as a straightforward trigger of aggression. This may come as a surprise. Males of endless species, including us, tend to have higher testosterone levels and to be more aggressive than females; aggression and testosterone levels rise in males at puberty; and males of species that compete for territories annually show increased aggression and testosterone levels at those times.

Note, however, that there’s some evidence that the causality could run in the other direction: Engaging in aggressive behaviors may trigger a spike in testosterone.

Then there’s the oldest experiment in endocrinology: castration. When you remove the source of testosterone, levels of aggression plummet across many species. But the levels don’t drop to zero. There’s some evidence that the more social experience the organism had with aggression before castration, the more aggression may persist.

We also know that within normal ranges, testosterone levels are not strongly predictive of aggression. In the amygdala, a brain region central to aggression, testosterone rarely causes peacefully snoozing amygdaloid neurons to abruptly activate circuits of aggressive behavior.

Scientists now believe that testosterone makes people and animals more sensitive to threats to their status — to the point of perceiving threats that are imagined and amplifying the aggressive response to such threats. For instance, a male impala with high testosterone may be more sensitized to challenges to his territory, attacking an interloper when it comes within 100 yards of him, instead of the usual 50.

Back on the playgrounds of my youth, if someone called you a dismissive name and you came back with the rapier-wit response of “I know you are, but what am I?” or “It takes one to know one,” you had dunked on your enemy and perhaps gained in status. If testosterone is as much about status as anything, this suggests an interesting insight. Presumably, these MAGA trolls flinging around “low T” accusations gain status by doing so, raising the scenario that in their subculture, testosterone fuels these primates to snipe inane pseudoscience about their adversaries.

One of my favorite experiments dates to 1977. In the study, groups of monkeys were formed. Soon, as per usual, a dominance hierarchy emerged in each group. At that point, a castrated male was administered large quantities of testosterone. Did such a male, emitting a Musk-like cloud of high testosterone vibes, take on and trounce higher-ranking individuals and rise to the top? Not at all. He just became a total jerk to his subordinates, acting as if their every gesture were a provocation. Testosterone did not create new patterns of aggression. Instead, it drove those males to reaffirm the status that they already held in that group, amplifying the aggressive behaviors they had learned they could get away with.

If you’re a Siamese fighting fish or a baboon, you respond to status challenges by fighting. But humans gain status in extraordinarily varied ways — by winning an election, being proclaimed the finest haiku writer of your generation, snagging that Nobel Prize, having Beyoncé’s phone number. Our primate status battles can be highly symbolic. A tennis or chess tournament, for example, provokes a status-protecting rise in testosterone secretion, even if the loser is not destined to be a corpse picked over by hyenas.

This raises an intriguing possibility: What would testosterone do in a situation where status comes from being kind? In pioneering work at the University of Zurich by Christoph Eisenegger, female volunteers played an economic game in which reputation with other players depended on making fair offers. Remarkably, fairness of game play was enhanced in subjects administered testosterone (without, of course, the subjects knowing whether they were receiving the hormone or a placebo). Other studies showed that testosterone even decreased lying in men in games in which their cheating was undetectable. This is probably because the temptation to lie in these settings constituted a challenge to the high moral status that subjects valued in themselves, with that valuation strengthened by testosterone.

What does this tell us? If society is riddled with aggression, don’t blame testosterone; blame us for being too prone to dole out status for aggression.

Robert Sapolsky is a professor of biology and neurological sciences at Stanford University.

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In pioneering work at the University of Zurich by Christoph Eisenegger, female volunteers played an economic game in which reputation with other players depended on making fair offers. Remarkably, fairness of game play was enhanced in subjects administered testosterone (without, of course, the subjects knowing whether they were receiving the hormone or a placebo). Other studies showed that testosterone even decreased lying in men in games in which their cheating was undetectable. This is probably because the temptation to lie in these settings constituted a challenge to the high moral status that subjects valued in themselves, with that valuation strengthened by testosterone.

What does this tell us?

That MAGA proponents are right about testosterone. Low testosterone levels are indicative of the sleazy rules-breaking behavior of the Left. Low testosterone soyboys are more likely than their high testosterone gigachad MAGA counterparts to lie, cheat and steal if they believe they can get away with it. Whereas normal males compete for status among other males, low testosterone troons are more likely to harass and bully women and children. And so on.

Definitely interested in a Brooklynite-Jewish-atheist's take on heckin' toxic masculinity.

I'm very interested in Dr. Sapolsky's work. It just doesn't lead to the biased pro-socialist conclusions he thinks it does.
 
That MAGA proponents are right about testosterone. Low testosterone levels are indicative of the sleazy rules-breaking behavior of the Left. Low testosterone soyboys are more likely than their high testosterone gigachad MAGA counterparts to lie, cheat and steal if they believe they can get away with it. Whereas normal males compete for status among other males, low testosterone troons are more likely to harass and bully women and children. And so on.
Dr. Bugman's slimy rhetorical parlor trick here is implying MAGA are always liars, and the NYT Champions of Democracy™️ always tell the truth and are never wrong, so MAGA must be low-T.

Alas, it won't work. They've already "discovered" that physically weak mean are more likely to be progressives (to the suprise of absolutely nobody with eyes to see).

ETA: by the same token, calling yourself MAGA means little to me if you're a Wes Watson-like peacocking faggot. Manly men don't need to talk about how manly they are; they show it by walking the walk.
 
Dr. Bugman's slimy rhetorical parlor trick here is implying MAGA are always liars, and the NYT Champions of Democracy™️ always tell the truth and are never wrong, so MAGA must be low-T.
OK. But the evidence he presents indicates exactly the opposite.

"fairness of game play was enhanced in subjects administered testosterone"

"studies showed that testosterone even decreased lying in men in games in which their cheating was undetectable"

"This is probably because the temptation to lie in these settings constituted a challenge to the high moral status that subjects valued in themselves, with that valuation strengthened by testosterone."


Dr Sapolsky presents the data, then makes an inference that is the exact opposite of what the results blatantly indicate. It reminds me of the prosecution's case in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

Alas, it won't work.
It might, but only if academicians are sufficiently trained not to think critically.


calling yourself MAGA means little to me if you're a Wes Watson-like peacocking faggot
According to Left fascists, an actual peacocking faggot would be woke. Thus drag shows in schools.
 
Beyond my own research, decades of data show that testosterone does not ensure dominance, nor does it act as a straightforward trigger of aggression.
Explain Pooners then? There seems to be a large set of pooner rage. Sure they may not be dominant, but they're definitely aggressive.
 
that point, a castrated male was administered large quantities of testosterone. Did such a male, emitting a Musk-like cloud of high testosterone vibes, take on and trounce higher-ranking individuals and rise to the top? Not at all. He just became a total jerk to his subordinates, acting as if their every gesture were a provocation. Testosterone did not create new patterns of aggression. Instead, it drove those males to reaffirm the status that they already held in that group, amplifying the aggressive behaviors they had learned they could get away with.
But this just shows that you can’t turn a low ranking baboon male into the alpha with a single stimulus. Why would you expect that an injection of t would even do that? The males that end up as harem leaders have been engaged in a PROCESS. They will be physically high quality to start with , and then have honed fighting skills etc over several seasons. Probably fought multiple suitors off. There would’ve been no reason whatsoever to expect that taking a lesser male and pumping him full of T would lead to him being the harem head. He hasnt been through the same process. It’d be like saying that taking someone who plays football with a pub team would turn into premier league material after a few coaching sessions.
Anyway the lower ranking ones DO breed - they sneak round the edges and woo the ladies and the reproduce at a reasonably successful rate, well below the alpha but they certainly contribute.
 
"Um, actually men are the overly emotional, irrational gender" is the current hot feminist talking point. Seeing it everywhere lately.
The new (as of a couple years ago) talking point among Job Creators™ is that the reason they have to hire illegals, jeets, and even Haitians—the guy whose factory employs all the pet-eating Springfield Haitians famously said it—is because white men have become too "emotional" (have some dignity) to be trusted with even entry-level responsibility.

It's a reloaded reframing of the stock conservative claim that Mexicans are the real Americans because white people are too lazy (but also on meth) and "entitled."

Feminists and the managerial/capitalist class always use the same language about lower class men. Always.

For some reason. As if there's some connection.

...The world may never know.
 
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