He Man Reboot Announced

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Miang said:
I dunno, I read there's a tie-in comic also written by Kevin Smith (oof) that's supposed to explain what happens before the series, but there's only one issue out and the first part of the show has already aired. Maybe it'll go into how Skeletor finally found out ...but I feel a better writer would have found a way to put that, y'know, in the show.
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So far, the comic has only explained why keeping the secret was so vital and the origin of the sword (Snake-Men enslaved an interdimensional being to attack King Grayskull, so the Elders made a sword capable of wounding something that exists within two dimensions), the creature is attacking in the present and has poisoned Randor. It's revealed at the end of the issue by Skeletor that the creature didn't poison anyone, it was trying to make a psychic connection so it could warn the universe of a great threat that's on it's way. So, it might be the creature that tells Skeletor about the Mcguffins.
 
Chilson said:
Gonna be real, I feel people are putting on rose tinted glasses for 2011 Thundercats. The first half was legitimately great, but good lord was the second half a clusterfuck of poor writing and even worse pacing.

Its still leagues better even at its worse than most cartoons we get today, but just because your comparing a smelly turd to a calcified one doesn't not make them both shit.
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Yeah, that’s unfortunate. Tons of cartoons try to recreate Avatar and keep missing the mark.

I shudder to imagine what a Beast Wars reboot cartoon would be like, and if the live action movie does great enough then Hasbro will probably greenlight one.
 
Travoltron said:
Isn't Netflix doing that right now? i heard they recast everyone with non-Union nobodies and it's horrid.
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Exactly.

It’s honestly quite frustrating. The original BW show was held back by the limitations of CGI at the time, so we couldn’t have as many characters show up as we do for other TF cartoons. But if BW is rebooted today, you could have all those characters make cartoon appearances for the first time. As well as bring in beastformers from other lines, bring in the Beast Planet as a possible homeworld for all beastformers, invoke Onyx Prime and his role as their ancestor…

But the writing could easily be very bad. I wouldn’t mind if it was aimed purely at children and ditched the depth of the original BW like the Japanese BW cartoons did. But if it was like the atrocious Roosterteeth TF cartoons…

The one benefit of TF in this regard is that it gets rebooted so often that bad ideas can’t stay for very long, while good ideas can be continually refined.
 
Travoltron said:
Isn't Netflix doing that right now? i heard they recast everyone with non-Union nobodies and it's horrid.
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Not quite, they're doing is as a crossover as part of their War for Cybertron trilogy. So the Beast Wars characters are there but it's not quite the same timeline as the original series so there's a number of changes from the original plot.

The voice recasting however is very true and very painful.
 
Overly Serious said:
Also, has anyone commented on the fact that He-Man kills during this show? He never used to kill. Children's cartoons don't usually have the hero kill people.
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Is this even a cartoon for kids, though?

I mean, if you're going to make it adult, just do it, I'm ok with it: I welcome more animation for grown ups. The problem is, and it's been mentioned before, that they think "adult" equals sex and violence and that's all. So you have a lame plot written by manchildren using sex and violence in the same way a ten years old would.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Is this even a cartoon for kids, though?

I mean, if you're going to make it adult, just do it, I'm ok with it: I welcome more animation for grown ups. The problem is, and it's been mentioned before, that they think "adult" equals sex and violence and that's all. So you have a lame plot written by manchildren using sex and violence in the same way a ten years old would.
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I don’t understand why this is so pervasive. Does the family-friendly restrictions force otherwise bad writers to write well, or do adult animation producers deliberately hire bad writers?
 
FreedomMussel said:
I don’t understand why this is so pervasive. Does the family-friendly restrictions force otherwise bad writers to write well, or do adult animation producers deliberately hire bad writers?
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They hire woke writers because producers think this is what people want. Woke writers often happen to be very bad at their jobs.
 
FreedomMussel said:
I don’t understand why this is so pervasive. Does the family-friendly restrictions force otherwise bad writers to write well, or do adult animation producers deliberately hire bad writers?
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Restrictions by necessity always require creativity to circumvent. Some of the greatest media ever produced was created under incredibly restrictive environments and conditions. Of course, it depends on the skill of the writers/producers as these restrictions can just as easily go the other way and produce a pile of crap.

There are well written animated shows on both ends of the adult and children market, but in the modern environment of rampant nepotism and intolerable woke corporate cultures its very difficult for competent writers to actually write well even if they are actually good at writing. This is already difficult enough since animated productions have a stigma as "lesser" to live action and therefore not attracting the best in Hollywood to begin with.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Is this even a cartoon for kids, though?
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I mean, the vehicles they all fly around in are still obviously the original designs for what they were capable of making toys of in the Eighties like this tank the evil armies use.
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You have a robot character called Roboto, a villainess called Evil-Lyn, the big baddie is a guy with a skeleton face called Skeletor, his henchmen is a guy with three eyes called Tri-Klops, the male hero is called He-Man and his female counterpart is called She-ra. And, if they go this route, a snake man called "King Hiss".

It's for kids. And I'm pretty sure parents up and down the land are plonking their little ones in front of it with vague recollections of He-Man delivering little to the camera moral lessons at the end of each episode. Not him losing his cool and running a sword through someone's chest.
 
FreedomMussel said:
I don’t understand why this is so pervasive. Does the family-friendly restrictions force otherwise bad writers to write well, or do adult animation producers deliberately hire bad writers?
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Rampant nepotism on every single level or otherwise shitty hiring practices aside there are only so many decent to good writers out there and the amount of shows produced each year is rising (thanks, Statista) and each show needs an entire room full of people "throwing around ideas" because we can't have a singular voice with maybe a second writer to tidy things up.
 
Overly Serious said:
It's for kids. And I'm pretty sure parents up and down the land are plonking their little ones in front of it with vague recollections of He-Man delivering little to the camera moral lessons at the end of each episode. Not him losing his cool and running a sword through someone's chest.
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I have to give credit to the 200X reboot. It’s a spiritual clone of the original. Even down to the ending segments where He-Man talks directly to the audience. There’s just this nostalgic wholesome charm to it. I become more appreciative of that accomplishment with every new terrible reboot/remake Hollyweird craps out.

I wish Mjtanner would review the 200X show in order to wash off the terrible aftertaste of all the other horrible reboots. And maybe review Thundercats 2011 to show how even teams with good intentions can still make mistakes.
 
So apparently people are under the impression that the black character Andra will become the new “He-Man” based on an interview her VA did.

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SteelPlatedHeart said:
So apparently people are under the impression that the black character Andra will become the new “He-Man” based on an interview her VA did.

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Given this statement, why does it give me vibes that He-Man himself will be brought back to life again, just to kill him off for a third time? That would push Kevin Smith further into Neil Druckmann-levels of writing. And at least in Druckmann's case, there's no resurrection option, unless he pulls that shit somehow in TLOU3, just to have Joel be part of a second round of Joel-In-One.
 
I knew something was gonnna be up with this when they got the original guy famous for voicing skeletor and cast him as fucking moss man instead of skeletor when he can still do the voice. People I've brought that shit up to were like "oh he's like 80 or 90 years old how do you expect them to have him voice skeletor" but they don't know about the fact he's fucking cast as mossman and doing a voice there too or the countless times he's done the skeletor voice at appearances or on social media shit. Instead we got mark hamill doing the joker voice when they could have more than likely gotten him to do the skeletor voice considering he's clearly got more range than just "joker" It's like they just were like "ok mark do the joker voice that's how everyone knows it's you" or some shit lmao.
 
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