He Man Reboot Announced

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Technically, Havoc isn't evil. Eldress explains that it is natural, but dangerous and unpredictable. It's a nice worldbuilding detail IMO, tho I strongly suspect it's inspired more by "fel" in WarCraft than by the order/chaos dynamic from Stormbringer.
 
You know, I’m mildly frustrated by the recurring sentiment that we shouldn’t ever do reboots and only do original stories.

You know what my rebuttal to that is? Public domain characters. Hercules, Robin Hood, King Arthur, Anansi, Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Cthulhu, etc. It’s natural and expected for storytellers to take the same figures and tell new contradictory stories with them. There’s no canon, only mythos.

Just a couple of weeks ago I purchased a book of stories about public domain characters and they contradict each other. I consider this a feature, not a bug.

We’ve been telling the rebooted adventures of the same characters for thousands of years. Why are fans suddenly crying foul? (At least in the case of reboots that don’t suck.) Why has fandom decided to turn fictional characters into outright Abrahamic-style religion, complete with canon and sanctity?

It’s especially hypocritical coming from the wokies because they seem to love their slash fanfiction.
 
Big part of it is Disney and other copyright holders keep extending the copyrights far beyond what they're originally to be. Only trademarks were suppose to be longest lasting of the three and even it isn't supposed to be infinite.
 
FreedomMussel said:
You know, I’m mildly frustrated by the recurring sentiment that we shouldn’t ever do reboots and only do original stories.

You know what my rebuttal to that is? Public domain characters. Hercules, Robin Hood, King Arthur, Anansi, Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Cthulhu, etc. It’s natural and expected for storytellers to take the same figures and tell new contradictory stories with them. There’s no canon, only mythos.

Just a couple of weeks ago I purchased a book of stories about public domain characters and they contradict each other. I consider this a feature, not a bug.

We’ve been telling the rebooted adventures of the same characters for thousands of years. Why are fans suddenly crying foul? (At least in the case of reboots that don’t suck.) Why has fandom decided to turn fictional characters into outright Abrahamic-style religion, complete with canon and sanctity?

It’s especially hypocritical coming from the wokies because they seem to love their slash fanfiction.
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It’s because Hollywood reboots of the last two decades almost universally DO suck. Don’t blame fans for using their eyes and seeing the bullshit for what it is, blame the producers for churning out shit.

If Hollywood ever stops making shitty reboots and actually starts making some good ones, I’m sure people will warm up to the idea of them again.
 
Gar For Archer said:
It’s because Hollywood reboots of the last two decades almost universally DO suck. Don’t blame fans for using their eyes and seeing the bullshit for what it is, blame the producers for churning out shit.

If Hollywood ever stops making shitty reboots and actually starts making some good ones, I’m sure people will warm up to the idea of them again.
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Most of what comes out of Hollyweird is bad. Reboot or not. It’s inescapable. We saw that with the awful Q-Force.

What I find frustrating is when we finally get good reboots like the CGI He-Man, and people still say it should be its own thing because it’s not close enough to the 80s cartoon. I can understand being angry at Hollyweird, but throwing the baby out with the bath water isn’t better.
 
FreedomMussel said:
Most of what comes out of Hollyweird is bad. Reboot or not. It’s inescapable. We saw that with the awful Q-Force.

What I find frustrating is when we finally get good reboots like the CGI He-Man, and people still say it should be its own thing because it’s not close enough to the 80s cartoon. I can understand being angry at Hollyweird, but throwing the baby out with the bath water isn’t better.
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If you beat a dog enough times, it will flinch whenever you raise your hand.
 
Mooger Meng said:
If you beat a dog enough times, it will flinch whenever you raise your hand.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm really only saying the same thing @Gar For Archer just did, only making it sound more insightful and about eight years of Art Major pretentious. You're not wrong at all about it, but after the possible quality reduction around the turn of the millennium and the very-much actual quality dive in '08, Paedowood in particular and entertainment in general have collectively told their customers that "Making new ideas is hard!" and have acted like the builders of antiquity, chiseling stone from the remnants of those who came before to make their own "marvels" with no regard for what those buildings once were.
Only, yanno, if they got their architectural designs from M.C. Escher and Salvador Dali.
 
Yeah, I’m frustrated with so many franchises and companies right now. Transformers is the only franchise from my childhood that I don’t look askance at, and that’s only because it reboots so often that bad ideas can’t become entrenched and good ideas can be continually refined without worrying about continuity. Megatron and Optimus being former activists turned enemies wasn’t originally part of the lore, but it appeared in every reboot since it was introduced. The downside of the constant reboots is that the plots get extremely repetitive to the point that even creative directors complain about it sometimes. I’m still bitter that we didn’t get the multiverse war that the Cyberverse team originally wanted to do.
 
I liken the new CGI He-Man to something like Wind Waker was for Legend of Zelda.

Different for sure, but the core spirit was still there (more so than Revelations which was more traditional on the surface) and its still able to carve an identity for itself.

You can make something different. I keep citing Beast Wars as an example of a continuation that was a breath of fresh air for the brand it was a part of. But it also has to not suck, which is the part that trips up most reboots/remakes these days. Finding something good period sometimes feels like finding a needle in a haystack.
 
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Was waiting for a bit for the reviews to come in for comparisons.

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The one "rotten" critic review from the new show that I saw:

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As an aside, I haven't watched either show yet.
 
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Was waiting for a bit for the reviews to come in for comparisons.

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The one "rotten" critic review from the new show that I saw:

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As an aside, I haven't watched either show yet.
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So his argument is that the show is bad because it does its job of entertaining people but doesn’t generate “fans?”? wow, that sure doesn’t sound like someone who wants to make kid shows that don’t actually entertain kids.
 
Wouldn't the show geared towards kids have a better chance of generating new fans than the one geared specifically towards the adults that were kids when they watched the original?

Even if Revelations was good, its still a show drenched in lore that dorks like me know. Adults on the outside and kids would be lost.

This new show works way better as a way for kids to get into it and have them, theoretically, grow up liking it.
 
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This new show works way better as a way for kids to get into it and have them, theoretically, grow up liking it.
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It’s also never too late for fans to develop an interest in the originals, or to do remakes that are closer to the originals. Although I suspect that, much like some of the Transformers cartoons, this new incarnation will leave a mark on successive shows.
 
I went into this new one expecting to peace out after the first episode; I did not think I'd find it so enjoyable and fun.

Seeing them do the thing where the character's special attacks all have a reused sequence in a different skybox like a video game special move made me as nostalgic as fuck.

Damn, this 3D Skeletor is legit awesome. Dude manages to be competent, threatening, but is completely aware that he's a goofy skeleton mother fucker and owns it. And after how unlikable and boring the cast of Revelations was, it's so refreshing to have an actual likable cast filled with personality.

Why does this clearly kids show feel more mature than the edgy 'adult' continuation?
 
Its not He-Man, but its not bad. They could've called it something else entirely, because it really is just something else with the He-Man name slapped on it. If anything I'd say it trying to adhere to "He-Man" in the few ways it does holds it back.
 
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