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GeorgeSmarty said:
Viv really just mashed these to together.
And then did bael so dirty you get an infection from just watching it.
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The funny thing is that I don't even need to look at the sources to dislike that insect's design.
She is a sparkledog, and there's not much else to say about it or rather, there's too much to say against it, so much in fact that I'd rather talk about the record of ragnarok version of the same character, which goes for "duur its the lord of fly so its a twink with compound eyes buttons on his suit", still sucks ass, but at least it's not furry bait of the lowest-tier.
 
The thing with Baal is that he is a pretty fascinating character if someone would actually bother to look up a bit of his backstory. He went from being a thunder god that fought together with his sister against leviathan and the god of death itself to protect the land and being often seen as a stand in for Yahwe to getting associated with the female fly demon Nasu and being seen as a demonic adversary of god.

I actually had the idea for a redesign of Belzebub that has Baal and Nasu as seperate characters, but no idea if I will get around to finishing it anytime soon.
 
GeorgeSmarty said:
I actually had the idea for a redesign of Belzebub that has Baal and Nasu as seperate characters, but no idea if I will get around to finishing it anytime soon.
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Its a giant spider with 3 heads, so I'd make an antropomorphic, headless spider and the 3 heads are both interchangeable and competing for control.
Have Baal's house/domain features a giant spiderweb inhabited by more headless spiders: the single anthropomorphic one is used as main body around, but since it bears a single stump, it can carry a single head at a time; 3-4 more of those headless spider bodies are still alive, large enough to carry a single head, they are used by two the heads who aren't in command that time of the day/month in to move around the house/lawn, while a giant headless spider with 3 head stumps lies dead and alone in the basement, the carcass looks like the dead husk of a spider, and cannot be removed as its impaled to the ground by an holy lance that no demon is able to remove, but a cluster of eggs is also present on the place, as Baal originally experimented on growing a new body for himself, but the heads slowly lost their synchrony and developed different personalities, while none of the eggs that hatched managed to give birth to a body large enough to carry all 3 at the same time, with the closest thing to success being exactly the single anthropomorphic body.
Wanna make Baal still the lord of a section of hell? Make it an unstable triunvirate, where the 3 have constant conflicts which are solved by vote or, when the 3rd head is not available to break the stalemate, in the most petty way imaginable, like a game of heads/tails, rock/paper/scissor or tic/tac/toe.
 
Strangolapreti said:
Its a giant spider with 3 heads, so I'd make an antropomorphic, headless spider and the 3 heads are both interchangeable and competing for control.
Have Baal's house/domain features a giant spiderweb inhabited by more headless spiders: the single anthropomorphic one is used as main body around, but since it bears a single stump, it can carry a single head at a time; 3-4 more of those headless spider bodies are still alive, large enough to carry a single head, they are used by two the heads who aren't in command that time of the day/month in to move around the house/lawn, while a giant headless spider with 3 head stumps lies dead and alone in the basement, the carcass looks like the dead husk of a spider, and cannot be removed as its impaled to the ground by an holy lance that no demon is able to remove, but a cluster of eggs is also present on the place, as Baal originally experimented on growing a new body for himself, but the heads slowly lost their synchrony and developed different personalities, while none of the eggs that hatched managed to give birth to a body large enough to carry all 3 at the same time, with the closest thing to success being exactly the single anthropomorphic body.
Wanna make Baal still the lord of a section of hell? Make it an unstable triunvirate, where the 3 have constant conflicts which are solved by vote or, when the 3rd head is not available to break the stalemate, in the most petty way imaginable, like a game of heads/tails, rock/paper/scissor or tic/tac/toe.
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That sounds like an interesting idea and it probably has better story opportunities for a cartoon show than my take.

My idea was that Baal actually is a nephilim (kid of a human and angel from the apocrypha) and has the ability to change from a human appearance into a cherubim, but can't fully tranform himself so instead of four heads like an actual cherub he only has three, but he can turn increasingly demonic over time.
Nasu in this take is his wive and actually is supposed to have a more monstrous appearance by default with a fly monster body and is supposed to actually be a fat bitch. I think I have a scribble for her lying around somewhere, maybe I'm gonna find it.
 
GeorgeSmarty said:
My idea was that Baal actually is a nephilim (kid of a human and angel from the apocrypha) and has the ability to change from a human appearance into a cherubim, but can't fully tranform himself so instead of four heads like an actual cherub he only has three, but he can turn increasingly demonic over time.
Nasu in this take is his wive and actually is supposed to have a more monstrous appearance by default with a fly monster body and is supposed to actually be a fat bitch. I think I have a scribble for her lying around somewhere, maybe I'm gonna find it.
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You want to break up the identity of Ball(s), do it in a literal sense, separate the heads and make them get a different trait from the original Bael each.
 
Strangolapreti said:
You want to break up the identity of Ball(s), do it in a literal sense, separate the heads and make them get a different trait from the original Bael each.
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Like Trey of Triforia?
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So I actually found the scribble for the fly demon Nasu. (It's just a random early idea sketch so please excuse the shitty quality).

The main idea behind her design was that she was responsible for Baal's fall from grace from a positive deity to a demonic entity which I definitely want to somehow include in the concept for both of them.

It also takes inspiration from the Willendorf statue with the head ornaments and general design since she is supposed to actually look like a (quite literal) massive bitch. Also she is still missing her insect wings here and is also supposed to be capable of turning into a swarm of flies that can control corpses. (As a reference to the mythological legends about her inhabiting dead bodies.)
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Gladly said:
Now that I think about it, Sera is honestly one of the worst characters in the entire series.

In her song with the Speaker of God, she confessed her guilt in allowing the exterminations to happen after learning that sinners could still be redeemed. Let's be realistic: Sera should have known long ago that she could have allowed the deaths of innocent, righteous, and moral people simply because Adam exists! If some bad people can go to Heaven, then it is just as logical to conclude that some good people can go to Hell. But she didn't care about this crucial piece of information at all because it could cast this already flawed system in a bad light. She only started to care when it affected her personally and she had living proof against her. All these years, she didn't give a damn. Sera is a complete moron! She's simultaneously the most intelligent and the dumbest character in the entire Vivzieverse. And I don't mean that in a Dr. Doofenschmerz kind of way. Why is she supposed to be sympathetic again?
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I agree that Sera is a fucking idiot, but the exterminations have only happened for 7 years, with Lilith dissappear at around the same time so there is obviously some connection between that (why none of the people in Hell have figured that out I don't know why). And with Adam, we have no idea what he was like 10,000 years ago. He could have been a good person, but just decayed over so many years. Could bring up an interesting question of when you're in enternal paradise, there's really no more reason to not fall into sinful acts.

There's also the fact that there had been no attempt of redemption until recently, with Charlie just now bringing it up after the last extermination. There's no reason for Heaven to believe that Sinners can go to Heaven. And as of now, the only way we know how Sinners are able to go into Heaven is if they are hit with some angelic power, and I think the majority of Sinners aren't going to want to try that since there's the likely chance of them being permanently killed.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Like Trey of Triforia?
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More like John Crichton in Farscape, specifically that one episode where he's split into a devolved ape and an evolved version of himself.
Strawberry Kiwi Propel said:
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Wasn't sure if it was posted here yet, but a new short is coming this Saturday. It's another mission short, with the target this time being Bigfoot.
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Cryptid bigfoot hunting, haven't seen that in a while...
I'm honest, I'm not a retard, I don't play fallout 76, which totally didn't introduced bigfoot last month, I watched Smiling Friends s3 tho, where they parodied the whole criptid hunting with the brown blur. Also this stinks of that one Futurama episode with a whole subplot about bigfoot while a couple of aliens has relationship problems, aaaand wasn't there a bigfoot episode in mister pickles too?

You think I'm a nitpicky asshole for saying this but... Well, fuck you! I don't care and I'm not american either, nobody else gives a fuck about cryptids, its the kind of retard shit only american have and that if you don't get it, you won't find it funny, if it even had a sliver of comedy to even begin with.
GeorgeSmarty said:
I actually found the scribble for the fly demon Nasu. (It's just a random early idea sketch so please excuse the shitty quality).
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The design is kinda meh, I don't know if the mouth is a good alternative to the sponging proboscis that houseflies naturally have tho,
For a fly monster, I would actually go intead for something more akin to an horsefly, complete with a maw for bitnig and drinking blood, but I'd also make it more animal looking. The eyes too beinf broken-up compound eyes is also a pretty good idea, albeit not the best in term of execution, the tits and belly are just vile tho.
GeorgeSmarty said:
The main idea behind her design was that she was responsible for Baal's fall from grace from a positive deity to a demonic entity which I definitely want to somehow include in the concept for both of them.
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Women, am I right?
How exactly did she caused his fall from grace? Opening an onlyfans account? Sending his husband to dennys while she fucked the lord of cockroaches? a war against the archdemon who's responsable for each and every murder and assassination committed in history, Sam Hyde?
GeorgeSmarty said:
It also takes inspiration from the Willendorf statue with the head ornaments and general design since she is supposed to actually look like a (quite literal) massive bitch. Also she is still missing her insect wings here and is also supposed to be capable of turning into a swarm of flies that can control corpses. (As a reference to the mythological legends about her inhabiting dead bodies.)
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She look like if that moon guy from Hylics was absorbed by a semi-perfect Cell that's about to self-destruct.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I would have just made him a direct reference/allegory to Peter Popoff or Noreen Renier.
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Did my best to Frankenstein a bunch of Vox gifs over PPP from Kino Casino doing a impression of Peter Popoff.


And then this insane idea clawed its way into my head. Enjoy Ethan Ralph's drunken, pilled-out rambling about building a church set to the Gregorian chant, Media Vita.

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InJailOutSoon said:
There's no reason for Heaven to believe that Sinners can go to Heaven
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No one bothered trying to be a half decent person for several thousands of years, and the characters in the show have only bothered to start when they were effectively forced to,

I wonder why heaven's residents may be cynical.
 
A Very Big Fish said:
Did my best to Frankenstein a bunch of Vox gifs over PPP from Kino Casino doing a impression of Peter Popoff.
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It works so well given his visual design and his MO. And it would have made him so much better as a villain if he revived his televangelist/faith healer schtick from when he was alive after Pentious' redemption as a means to broaden his own influence and build a larger base for himself by selling himself as the true means of getting into Heaven, "Pentious was my agent, you know (wink wink)". And it would make a great conflict between Charlie who is earnest and caring but has all the charm and charisma of a surly undertaker and asks you to work hard and better yourself, and Vox who is a dyed in the wool viper and snake oil salesman but is authoritative and affable and probably sells you some form of prosperity gospel.

Of course this would require some level of respect and understanding for Christian belief and values, which this show does not have.

Vox as a character is a lot of fun. Vox as a villain is LAAAAAAAAAME and only gets as far as he does because he must emit some kind of pheromone that makes everyone around him retarded.
 
IMP is going to fight Bigfoot in an episode that I'm sure will be incredibly funny. Wonder what the punchline will be, Bigfoot's gay maybe?
 
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