Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Okay. Theory time.

So heaven and hell are actually both hell. Real heaven is true to the lore and is completely seperate from hell.

The heaven in the show is a fake heaven setup by a group of demons around the time hell came into existence. Through an untold number of billions of years because time is irrelevant to god the demons in hell forgot about this and now think heaven is really heaven

The real heaven doesnt have to worry thus why God does not intervene.

The inhabitants of fake heaven are all demons who convinced themselves to believe they are heavenly over those billions of years or however long the afterlife has existed (could be damn near infinite).

This is how they are even killable in the first place since death in the afterlife doesnt make sense. Hell set up a complex death system to respawn souls in different places after they die. So its not so much death as it is being demoted.

So with that said heaven is the most powerful ring of hell. Or it was. You see the heaven demons were the most powerful for a long time. Thats how they were able to seperate themselves from regular hell. Thats also how its even possible Voxs gun worked. This is also how Adam died. Adam was demoted. He probably lives in the same ring of hell as Charlie now.

Now. This also explains how vaggi ended up here. You see angels can't switch sides anymore. Thay was a one time battle between angels and demons. Its over. So vaggi must have already been a demon if it was possible for her to become a demon.

Heaven is just another ring of hell where all the uppity demons live who dont want to constantly fight. Demons who were smart enough to realize they could use their power and make a comfortable living situation.
I like this, something tells me that Sam(mael) Haft may use this excuse that "Heaven and Hell are the same maaaaan!!!". Only he won't include real Heaven, and this will be a blessing in disguise: this means that all the real saints and Heavenly figures won't receive the faggot treatment and thus will be spared.

Everyone wins in the end.
It's still worth expanding on it, even if it's in a separate fanfic or something.
Absolutely! I wonder what does this make Adam? An agent of Yaldabaoth/the Demiurge? The Demiurge himself? Or Lute?
You know what, my OC that I'm refining with @Re(Runner)48 - I am using his redesigns for centering him around the "Hellaverse". This isn't a cooperative work, but if he likes it, I will insert my OC as an agent of fake Heaven and the true antithesis of Jesus Christ.
 
Consider the following:
Now, we never see any Indians in Hell, however we see plenty of white people, blakpipo, Latinx, and Asians. Now one has to consider the curious absence of Arabs and Indians which leads to one conclusion: Islam in the true religion in Hazbin Hotel, and Indians get reincarnated either in India (Their Hell) or outside of India (Their Heaven) where upon dying for a 2nd time they get sent to the real Heaven or Hell. Thank you for reading.
Look I understand the joke but you're approaching the "rent free" point.
 
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WE HEIL LUTE HERE NIGGA
 
Me and @Star Is Screaming is doing the same, with a difference of Lucifer is not the king of hell but Satan is.
This is really cool - I would like to know more. I dont know yet if ReRunner would like to be on a collab, but my idea is that the guy I mention of the "Left Hand of God" will be the "HeavenGuy". Yet this concept of the Heaven we see in the show is the fake one made me think it is pretty interesting on its own, and I think it's worth it to put it. I mean, I don't plan to do an """ALTERNATE UNIVERSE""" on itself - just an idea.
 
This is really cool - I would like to know more. I dont know yet if ReRunner would like to be on a collab, but my idea is that the guy I mention of the "Left Hand of God" will be the "HeavenGuy". Yet this concept of the Heaven we see in the show is the fake one made me think it is pretty interesting on its own, and I think it's worth it to put it. I mean, I don't plan to do an """ALTERNATE UNIVERSE""" on itself - just an idea.
Well everything is it's own Universe we renamed most of the characters and assigned them names based on preference or like in DBZ conventions.
 
I wonder why hasn’t god intervened since his first creation Adam was killed
In (Biblical) canon God can't intervene in the affairs of humanity due to his promise to Noah/humanity. The Devil also can't intervene without the direct say so/permission of humans or God so you can't get possessed or something without first giving consent or asking for it.

Following this logic, Adam (human) choosing to attack Hell makes it ultimately a consequence of his own (human) choice and so he can't/won't intervene. Denizens of heaven, be them angel or human, making their own choice in interacting with Hell means God can't intervene. Hell forcing its way into Heaven would be another thing entirely.

Given Vivzie seems like the kind of person to cite the inconsistent triad as proof of God's fallibility without knowing the actual mechanics of God, I doubt she has truly taken the above into account but it's possible.

It could also mean that God has zero bearing on any of the show's events since the lower ranked occupants of Heaven could be doing all of this of their own free will and God won't do a thing to impede them as a consequence. Free will is a very understated part of God's whole deal.
 
I finished the homosexual demon show today, season 1 was good, season 2 was ok up until the last few episodes. I would've liked to see some actual sacrifices in season 2 instead of kumbaya niggerworld at the end. Disregarding the theory that Heaven is basically just Hell 2 but noone knows and the actual Heaven is in another dimension, an actual physical invasion of Heaven would've been nice to see instead of just a nigger deathray that gets destroyed through the power of friendshipTM. Season 2 should've ended with the TV guy making it into Heaven, and just when it seems like he's about to win, aethereal disembodied voice speaks Hebrew and is heard all throughout Heaven, before smiting and annihilating (Literally) the souls of all present, Elohim doesn't need a physical body because he's everywhere at once. Aside from that, less tonal shifts.




And kill the fucking annoying little blue angel too.
 
How would you explain it?
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To me, it's similar to when crappy kids shows on Nickelodeon suddenly have sakuga heavy Naruto fights: A desperate attempt to appeal to a demographic that isn't even watching your show. It's not that the fight scenes are bad, they're just so utterly at odds with the rest of the show being about feelings and talking. Almost as bad as Steven Universe.
I can give an answer for this. Hazbin Hotel takes place in the first circle of Pride Ring, while Stolas and Blitzø's current location is in the second circle.

Now, I know this explaination brings up more questions, but considering the shows, what were you expecting.
I wonder why hasn’t god intervened since his first creation Adam was killed
Because the Speaker of God is essentially the God of this show, and we see how pointless she is. She doesn't even appear when Heaven gets blasted at.
 
Season 2 should've ended with the TV guy making it into Heaven, and just when it seems like he's about to win
I mean at that point God himself wouldn't even need to interfere. St. Michael would just rape him.

Because the Speaker of God is essentially the God of this show, and we see how pointless she is. She doesn't even appear when Heaven gets blasted at.
She seems more like a Metatron stand-in to me, which I think lines up with her higher placement in the hierarchy but lack of action.
 
I didn't realize TV head was a homo until they showed him in bed naked with the mothman, when he told Alastor in the flashback that he wants to be partners, I just thought of it as business partners.
In the now defunct (I’m pretty sure) character Instagram accounts, it showed Vox and Valentino being in an on again off again abusive relationship. The latter once broke the former’s screen for getting him a shitty coffee.
 
I didn't realize TV head was a homo until they showed him in bed naked with the mothman, when he told Alastor in the flashback that he wants to be partners, I just thought of it as business partners.
Vox is actually bi but he and Valentino have always been a thing, albeit a dysfunctional one like Grand Duke Snowfall pointed out. You can briefly see them Frenching each other at the end of the season 1 finale.
 
I didn't realize TV head was a homo until they showed him in bed naked with the mothman, when he told Alastor in the flashback that he wants to be partners, I just thought of it as business partners.
There are characters in this show that aren't homosexual?

I don't believe you.
 
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