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InJailOutSoon said:
Something that has popped into my mind is that when Charlie is trying to get into contact with Heaven, she doesn't ask her dad for help. You know, something she did back in season 1 so she could get a direct meeting in Heaven.

In fact, the Heaven Embassy (which is the building that Charlie meets Adam for the first time) is just never utilized or even referenced after the first episode of this series. We just, see it gets destroyed when Heaven's gate comes crashing down from Vox's weapon blast. It's just kind of weird.
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The big bubble around Heaven implies it absolutely cuts all contact between them and Hell..... except for when the angels can still use their observation orb thingy....... and when the portal to the hotel........ and when they portal in and out of Vox's rally...... and the time Lute and Abel showed up for the final battle....... but other than that it would have been impossible anyways.
 
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Fiwi Karmer 69420 said:
The big bubble around Heaven implies it absolutely cuts all contact between them and Hell..... except for when the angels can still use their observation orb thingy....... and when the portal to the hotel........ and when they portal in and out of Vox's rally...... and the time Lute and Abel showed up for the final battle....... but other than that it would have been impossible anyways.
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This is the show that will have a full minute of dialogue dedicated to what a character is exactly feeling at the moment and for what reason, but won't do the same for it's world building.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
This is the show that will have a full minute of dialogue dedicated to what a character is exactly feeling at the moment and for what reason, but won't do the same for it's world building.
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one of the criticisms i agree with the most is that this show has a severe problem with telling instead of showing. Something the pilot didnt really have a problem with.

Idk if its an issue with writing in general or if it was caused by viv trying to scrunch all of season 1 into 8 episodes and also catch people up on the stuff they missed in the pilot.
 
How would you explain it?
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To me, it's similar to when crappy kids shows on Nickelodeon suddenly have sakuga heavy Naruto fights: A desperate attempt to appeal to a demographic that isn't even watching your show. It's not that the fight scenes are bad, they're just so utterly at odds with the rest of the show being about feelings and talking. Almost as bad as Steven Universe.
 
Niggerphobe said:
I wonder why hasn’t god intervened since his first creation Adam was killed
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Okay. Theory time.

So heaven and hell are actually both hell. Real heaven is true to the lore and is completely seperate from hell.

The heaven in the show is a fake heaven setup by a group of demons around the time hell came into existence. Through an untold number of billions of years because time is irrelevant to god the demons in hell forgot about this and now think heaven is really heaven

The real heaven doesnt have to worry thus why God does not intervene.

The inhabitants of fake heaven are all demons who convinced themselves to believe they are heavenly over those billions of years or however long the afterlife has existed (could be damn near infinite).

This is how they are even killable in the first place since death in the afterlife doesnt make sense. Hell set up a complex death system to respawn souls in different places after they die. So its not so much death as it is being demoted.

So with that said heaven is the most powerful ring of hell. Or it was. You see the heaven demons were the most powerful for a long time. Thats how they were able to seperate themselves from regular hell. Thats also how its even possible Voxs gun worked. This is also how Adam died. Adam was demoted. He probably lives in the same ring of hell as Charlie now.

Now. This also explains how vaggi ended up here. You see angels can't switch sides anymore. Thay was a one time battle between angels and demons. Its over. So vaggi must have already been a demon if it was possible for her to become a demon.

Heaven is just another ring of hell where all the uppity demons live who dont want to constantly fight. Demons who were smart enough to realize they could use their power and make a comfortable living situation.
 
The Saltening said:
Okay. Theory time.

So heaven and hell are actually both hell. Real heaven is true to the lore and is completely seperate from hell.

The heaven in the show is a fake heaven setup by a group of demons around the time hell came into existence. Through an untold number of billions of years because time is irrelevant to god the demons in hell forgot about this and now think heaven is really heaven

The real heaven doesnt have to worry thus why God does not intervene.

The inhabitants of fake heaven are all demons who convinced themselves to believe they are heavenly over those billions of years or however long the afterlife has existed (could be damn near infinite).

This is how they are even killable in the first place since death in the afterlife doesnt make sense. Hell set up a complex death system to respawn souls in different places after they die. So its not so much death as it is being demoted.

So with that said heaven is the most powerful ring of hell. Or it was. You see the heaven demons were the most powerful for a long time. Thats how they were able to seperate themselves from regular hell. Thats also how its even possible Voxs gun worked. This is also how Adam died. Adam was demoted. He probably lives in the same ring of hell as Charlie now.

Now. This also explains how vaggi ended up here. You see angels can't switch sides anymore. Thay was a one time battle between angels and demons. Its over. So vaggi must have already been a demon if it was possible for her to become a demon.

Heaven is just another ring of hell where all the uppity demons live who dont want to constantly fight. Demons who were smart enough to realize they could use their power and make a comfortable living situation.
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If this was actually correct, I would sing this shows praises because then a lot of things start to make sense, doubly so if the Heaven we see is just Luci’s creation, and all this was to get Charlie to get good at convincing people about her idea of redemption to then send her to Earth. She spreads her stupid ideas, humans fall for it and then fall down to Hell when they die. Unfortunately it’s Viv a the helm, so it likely won’t be that.
 
FK009 said:
If this was actually correct, I would sing this shows praises because then a lot of things start to make sense, doubly so if the Heaven we see is just Luci’s creation, and all this was to get Charlie to get good at convincing people about her idea of redemption to then send her to Earth. She spreads her stupid ideas, humans fall for it and then fall down to Hell when they die. Unfortunately it’s Viv a the helm, so it likely won’t be that.
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charlie could be the anti-christ with this theory.... oh garsh....
 
The Saltening said:
Okay. Theory time.

So heaven and hell are actually both hell. Real heaven is true to the lore and is completely seperate from hell.

The heaven in the show is a fake heaven setup by a group of demons around the time hell came into existence. Through an untold number of billions of years because time is irrelevant to god the demons in hell forgot about this and now think heaven is really heaven

The real heaven doesnt have to worry thus why God does not intervene.

The inhabitants of fake heaven are all demons who convinced themselves to believe they are heavenly over those billions of years or however long the afterlife has existed (could be damn near infinite).

This is how they are even killable in the first place since death in the afterlife doesnt make sense. Hell set up a complex death system to respawn souls in different places after they die. So its not so much death as it is being demoted.

So with that said heaven is the most powerful ring of hell. Or it was. You see the heaven demons were the most powerful for a long time. Thats how they were able to seperate themselves from regular hell. Thats also how its even possible Voxs gun worked. This is also how Adam died. Adam was demoted. He probably lives in the same ring of hell as Charlie now.

Now. This also explains how vaggi ended up here. You see angels can't switch sides anymore. Thay was a one time battle between angels and demons. Its over. So vaggi must have already been a demon if it was possible for her to become a demon.

Heaven is just another ring of hell where all the uppity demons live who dont want to constantly fight. Demons who were smart enough to realize they could use their power and make a comfortable living situation.
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This is actually the premise of a fanfic I've read.
 
The Saltening said:
fuck me im guess my totally original thought wasnt actually original after all. its so joever theory bros
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Unattainable Goal? The revelation about heaven is a surprise twist in the later chapters, and in the notes the author admits that it isn't even wholly 100% their idea. The first couple of chapters are a little difficult to get through since English isn't the writer's native language, but overall it's an interesting read.
 
Consider the following:
Now, we never see any Indians in Hell, however we see plenty of white people, blakpipo, Latinx, and Asians. Now one has to consider the curious absence of Arabs and Indians which leads to one conclusion: Islam in the true religion in Hazbin Hotel, and Indians get reincarnated either in India (Their Hell) or outside of India (Their Heaven) where upon dying for a 2nd time they get sent to the real Heaven or Hell. Thank you for reading.
 
The Saltening said:
Okay. Theory time.

So heaven and hell are actually both hell. Real heaven is true to the lore and is completely seperate from hell.

The heaven in the show is a fake heaven setup by a group of demons around the time hell came into existence. Through an untold number of billions of years because time is irrelevant to god the demons in hell forgot about this and now think heaven is really heaven

The real heaven doesnt have to worry thus why God does not intervene.

The inhabitants of fake heaven are all demons who convinced themselves to believe they are heavenly over those billions of years or however long the afterlife has existed (could be damn near infinite).

This is how they are even killable in the first place since death in the afterlife doesnt make sense. Hell set up a complex death system to respawn souls in different places after they die. So its not so much death as it is being demoted.

So with that said heaven is the most powerful ring of hell. Or it was. You see the heaven demons were the most powerful for a long time. Thats how they were able to seperate themselves from regular hell. Thats also how its even possible Voxs gun worked. This is also how Adam died. Adam was demoted. He probably lives in the same ring of hell as Charlie now.

Now. This also explains how vaggi ended up here. You see angels can't switch sides anymore. Thay was a one time battle between angels and demons. Its over. So vaggi must have already been a demon if it was possible for her to become a demon.

Heaven is just another ring of hell where all the uppity demons live who dont want to constantly fight. Demons who were smart enough to realize they could use their power and make a comfortable living situation.
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This would be an actually kinda smart plot twist, unfortunately Viv & co are at best web fanfic tier writters, so that ain't happenin'
 
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