Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Doctor of Autism]

Overall, I hate to say I enjoyed this season but I did. Sure, it’s flawed garbage but I can tolerate it over what Helluva Boss is. I guess you can argue Hazbin has the animation, character designs, world, and Helluva just has gay melodrama now, with Stolas being the root cause for a lot of my disdain for it. It’s no masterpiece, but it was at least entertaining to keep my attention week by week for like an hour or two.

Those are pretty much my feelings on the two shows. Hazbin at least has a more fun cast to watch even if they do stupid shit, so there is a laugh at them way you can get from laughing at lolcows. It also helps that it does the bare minimum of calling out character's actions for stupidity or how terrible they are.

Helluva Boss meanwhile has a cast that has so much protagonist-centered morality, which granted Hazbin has shades of this problem too but at least the characters are more called on their bullshit. Meanwhile, the worst Blitzo would be called out on in Helluva Boss is being mean (despite also killing shitloads of innocent people but drawing the line on a random gay couple he projected on) or how the universe bends over backwards to ensure Stolas did nothing wrong whatsoever

 

[Dyno]

@The Saltening

 

[Aib Ld]

The ending was fumbled so badly. Vox wasn't a tv-evangelist turned into a sorta of literal one or a cult leader who genuinely thought he was going to going to heaven and was seething that he didn't, he was basically Alastor's backstory recapped as a weather man.
also Alastor plan hinging on a one on a million chance on Vox literally touching charlie, and charlie seeing vox as the strongest, and it is seen as a crafty plan, and not pure retarded luck, and
I didn't really watch this for the big overarching plot but other than the missing obvious ideas staring right in Viv's face, I'm actually annoyed by Alastor barging in on everything. That isn't "piece of shit", that is "creator's pet mary sue" territory.

The shark is funny, though. Season is okay, Vox (before his backstory) and Shark Shockwave carried it, Alastor really dragged it down.

 

[Niggerphobe]

I wonder if they will have Old Testament believers vs new testament in the court in heaven

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Those are pretty much my feelings on the two shows. Hazbin at least has a more fun cast to watch even if they do stupid shit, so there is a laugh at them way you can get from laughing at lolcows. It also helps that it does the bare minimum of calling out character's actions for stupidity or how terrible they are.

Helluva Boss meanwhile has a cast that has so much protagonist-centered morality, which granted Hazbin has shades of this problem too but at least the characters are more called on their bullshit. Meanwhile, the worst Blitzo would be called out on in Helluva Boss is being mean (despite also killing shitloads of innocent people but drawing the line on a random gay couple he projected on) or how the universe bends over backwards to ensure Stolas did nothing wrong whatsoever

Which is why when these two shows crossover, everything will fall to shit.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Which is why when these two shows crossover, everything will fall to shit.

Honestly the crossover could be fine when it's any character other than Stolas. Only cause that character is like a vacuum of enjoyment and everyone has to coddle him unless they're an over the top villain

(Honestly I'm starting to think Stella is my spirit animal, like you go queen, that owl should burn)

The ending was fumbled so badly. Vox wasn't a tv-evangelist turned into a sorta of literal one or a cult leader who genuinely thought he was going to going to heaven and was seething that he didn't, he was basically Alastor's backstory recapped as a weather man.
also Alastor plan hinging on a one on a million chance on Vox literally touching charlie, and charlie seeing vox as the strongest, and it is seen as a crafty plan, and not pure retarded luck, and
I didn't really watch this for the big overarching plot but other than the missing obvious ideas staring right in Viv's face, I'm actually annoyed by Alastor barging in on everything. That isn't "piece of shit", that is "creator's pet mary sue" territory.

The shark is funny, though. Season is okay, Vox (before his backstory) and Shark Shockwave carried it, Alastor really dragged it down.

To be fair the touching thing would make sense cause Vox tends to be very touchy with others he tries to swindle

As for his backstory, it's interesting how it has a lot of Bruce Almighty vibes

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Vox wasn't a tv-evangelist turned into a sorta of literal one or a cult leader who genuinely thought he was going to going to heaven and was seething that he didn't, he was basically Alastor's backstory recapped as a weather man.

Let's be real, Vox would have had to herculian task of getting any non-religious cult off the ground during the 1950s without the feds getting wind of it and getting rid of him by saying he's a filthy commie. Should have been a televangalist.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

In fact, her motive wasn't even to stop the exterminations in the first place. Her entire motive was to make her mom proud of her, thinking this could bring her back.

Tbf, her original plan was to convince heaven to replace exterminations with redemption, as the reason heaven was doing it in the first place was to deal with overpopulation.

At least that's how she pitched it to Adam. "Oh you guys don't need to make a whole journey down to hell every year anymore, if redemption is a thing then you won't need to gape and rape my people to make more room! "

It feels like Lute really didn't do anything in this season

She didn't. It was all buildup to her taking revenge then when she tries to take revenge Abel cucks her.

You could literally remove her from the season and absolutely nothing changes. It saddens me.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Let's be real, Vox would have had to herculian task of getting any non-religious cult off the ground during the 1950s without the feds getting wind of it and getting rid of him by saying he's a filthy commie. Should have been a televangalist.

All he had to do was wait a decade then start his cult in the 60s...the later half anyways. Would have been a great way to toe this show into the Manson family. Surpised Vivian didn't given manson's insanity included "racial purity."

Helluva just has gay melodrama now

That's actually the only reason to keep watching helluva...oh not to enjoy it but to laugh at it and speculate which gay/tranny/angry feminist wrote what when it shows up. Well that and the occasional times it remembers it's supposed to be about hellborn assassin's with the mini episodes and is slightly better than it's regular episodes.

There were some leaks indicating that Vaggi might die in S3 by Lute hands.

In the words of bully Mcguire



If true, never liked that spic dyke former angel anyways.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

You can tell someone is only barely paying attention to the show when their reaction to the residents of Heaven panicking after Vox fires at them is "Oh, so it's suddenly bad when it happens to you!", completely forgetting that 99.9% of Heaven didn't even know the Exterminations were a thing.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

completely forgetting that 99.9% of Heaven didn't even know the Exterminations were a thing.

One of the winners outright says "Exterminations? What's that? What are they talking about?"

 

[macrodegenerate]

Love how "when I think about the future" has the rhythm from "When I see him" being sung by Valentino and Velvette as a reference to Helluva Boss. That whole number actually is pretty good.

The finale song is good, but I'm starting to get really tired of people aping James Baxter's iconic rotational shots. Especially when the animation is of significantly lower quality and detail.

I'm still amazed that they managed to land someone with as much vocal talent as Vox's VA. I legit got shivers from "Vox DEI" even if that's a bit late.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

One of the winners outright says "Exterminations? What's that? What are they talking about?"

I figure one of the plot points of S3 will be that a lot of winners who had friends or family that got sent to Hell will definitely not be happy about them, especially considering Angel's sister is all but certainly going to be properly introduced so you would have that character niche, and I really hope she isn't immediately told by Emily or Pentious "Oh yeah, I think I know who you're talking about, don't worry he's alive down there."

I would also hope that some winners, particularly victims of rapists and serial killers, would be more than happy to know that they were getting permanently killed and want to start them back up, especially after they just tried to invade Heaven, but that would likely be asking too much for these writers.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Part if me wants to belive husks line, "I'm sick of this high school bullshit!'" Is Keith David venting how in his old age THIS is what he's been reduced to working with/as. A "pansexual" effeminate cat boy bartender.


This man 30 to 40 years ago was working alongside the likes of Kurt Russell, John Carpenter, Rowdy Roddy Piper, and with Disney as the voice of Goliath and as both jullis and himself in the saint's row series, back when both of those names were actually respectable.


Edit and of course the arbiter in halo back when THAT franchise wasn't divided over the trump administration using it to make ai generated slop ice recruitment....or arguing that once upon a time it and the bungie devs were if not based then at least red pilled.

 

[Crybaby Xianghua]

Omg they actually Care Bear Stare'd the problem away. Hahahahahahahaha. I thought you guys were joking.

It goes to show that the Hellaverse, like most adult American comedy cartoons, is for adult children, by adult children.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I would also hope that some winners, particularly victims of rapists and serial killers, would be more than happy to know that they were getting permanently killed and want to start them back up, especially after they just tried to invade Heaven, but that would likely be asking too much for these writers.

Pentious meeting the Jack The Ripper canonical five:

 

[Sasmate]

Warning lots of sperging:

And here we are proven once again that fat liberal white women should not be given any meaningful platform for their “creativity”.

Fight scenes were great. Vox and his VA were great. Lute was great, but forgotten. Alastor breaking both “chains” in the span of 5 minutes was honestly baller, but I expected him to power up more in that fight. Pentious is still a great positive character without being too cringe inducing. Charlie and Emily are still insufferable throughout. Lucifer is Reddit cringe. Vaggie could’ve died and I wouldn’t have cared.

Sera is a retard, seraphims are supposed to be omnipresent in a way are they not? How are you gonna have believable biblical powers but also humanize all these crazy dieties on the same level as dead human souls whilst keeping it emotionally believable?

Where was that “speaker of god” bird that was clearly implied to be above a fucking seraphim angel in the hierarchy the whole time? Wasted character.

The ending was so awful. It’s been said a million times but why can demonic entities summon positive energy in the first place? It’s fucking stupid. Where even is the machine now?

Hell seems to know Heavenly redemption is possible now, but so far Heaven seems like the worse place to be. We all saw Pentious reaction to being allowed to invent again, implying heaven has been severely limiting his way of life and freedoms. It seemed to me like all the winners are infantilized, coddled, adult children. In Hell, sure there’s violence, drugs, abuse etc. but you also can’t die (if you’re a human soul) and we have seen you can do positive things in hell without repercussion to yourself. In the Bible Hell is implied to be extremely unpleasant but in Hazbin Hotel it’s just a mildly unhinged hot topic or something, whereas Heaven is a public library. Do you catch my drift? Hell has no actual mass misery and agony, it’s just like living in a rocky neighborhood. Heaven is a gated community, things are more peaceful and zen, but you’re definitely going to be restricted and bored.


The only thing that will make this show any fun again is if Adam’s soul somehow ended up in hell and he is actually alive. That would be amazing. We should all boycott until we get chaddam back for real.

 

[King Metalia]

Pentious meeting the Jack The Ripper canonical five:

I'm still disappointed we'll never see Charlie react to an irl serial killer coming to the hotel for redemption.

 

[macrodegenerate]

Part if me wants to belive husks line, "I'm sick of this high school bullshit!'" Is Keith David venting how in his old age THIS is what he's been reduced to working with/as. A "pansexual" effeminate cat boy bartender.


This man 30 to 40 years ago was working alongside the likes of Kurt Russell, John Carpenter, Rowdy Roddy Piper, and with Disney as the voice of Goliath and as both jullis and himself in the saint's row series, back when both of those names were actually respectable.

Don't forget Gene Hackman,Leonardo Decaprio, Sharon Stone and Russel Crowe in the "Quick and The Dead". Directed by Sam Reimi, whose camerawork in that film essentially landed him director roles in the original Spiderman Trio.

Legit the best of the best in action movies and westerns at that time.

 

[Dr. Butt]

This show should have been Vox vs. Lute from day one.